Sunday, December 22nd 2024
AMD Radeon "RX 8800 XT" is Actually the RX 9070 XT?
It turns out that the Radeon RX 8800 XT, the top SKU in AMD's next generation gaming GPU series, is actually named the Radeon RX 9070 XT. European computer hardware retailer may have leaked the name, along with that of the Radeon RX 9070 (non-XT), ahead of its January 2025 reveal. The two cards appeared in the store's search filters, where it was screengrabbed by enthusiasts. The RX 9070 XT is what was supposed to be the RX 8800 XT; while the RX 9070 is the RX 8800. Extrapolating this, the series could include the RX 9060 series, the RX 9050 series, and the RX 9040 series, says All The Watts.
What prompted this change in nomenclature probably has to do with the company's decision to withdraw from the enthusiast segment of gaming GPUs. While the RX 9070 XT technically succeeds the RX 7800 XT, a performance-segment, 1440p-class SKU, the company wouldn't want its product stack to have a "void" left by the lack of an "RX 8900 series." The company also took the opportunity to skip the RX 8000 series altogether, which probably give it room to rebadge some SKUs from the RX 7000 series over to the RX 8000 series. The RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 are based on the "Navi 48" silicon, and implement the RDNA 4 graphics architecture.
Sources:
momomo_us (Twitter), All The Watts (Twitter)
What prompted this change in nomenclature probably has to do with the company's decision to withdraw from the enthusiast segment of gaming GPUs. While the RX 9070 XT technically succeeds the RX 7800 XT, a performance-segment, 1440p-class SKU, the company wouldn't want its product stack to have a "void" left by the lack of an "RX 8900 series." The company also took the opportunity to skip the RX 8000 series altogether, which probably give it room to rebadge some SKUs from the RX 7000 series over to the RX 8000 series. The RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 are based on the "Navi 48" silicon, and implement the RDNA 4 graphics architecture.
112 Comments on AMD Radeon "RX 8800 XT" is Actually the RX 9070 XT?
Shitty named yet great product's even better remake <3I remember the XFX GTX XXX cards, I need MOAR Xes, dammit!
All people will remember now is how they changed RDNA4 product names and then UDNA product names again. It gives the impression that they're flip-flopping and have no long term plan.There is no "Ryzen 6". Ryzen is product name. Zen is architecture name. Each architecture also has it's own internal codenames.AMD's iGPU's are faster than 970 these days...That's what i want too. Consistency. Im not saying Ryzen naming scheme has been consistent with skipping 4000 series (in retail, it was OEM only) or skipping 6000 series or again skipping 8000 series. Then the odd naming of 5900XT that was 16c/32t CPU instead of *900 having been always 12c/24t.Even if raster perf is same the power consumption will be lower and RT perf will be increased. Not to mention doing away with disadvantages of chiplet design on 7900 GRE and 7800 XT. It was never going to be a 2x perf upgrade. More of a refinement.I would not call AMD's cards expensive. Not when there's a green elephant in the room...Yes, yes it is monolithic this time.
Besides, if it starts with 9, it means the next gen will have to go through a complete name change again, which is really bad.
AMD's and Nvidia's naming is full of zeros and suffixes which nobody needs or wants because it doesn't make sense. What's RX, for example? And why is every Nvidia card called RTX? It only made sense in the Turing era when some cards had RT, some didn't. And what's with the zeros in 9070 or 5090? Why not call them the 97 and 59? In fact, why not just call this card the Radeon Navi 48 XT?
More importantly, GTX580, RX580 and A580/B580 do not compare to each other at all. That's pretty funny.
This whole rename is probably the best thing to happen since 5000 series.
"Imma pick up a 5700..."
CPU or GPU?.....
"Imma pick up a 7600..."
CPU or GPU?
I'm sure it totally won't be a repeat issue with 8000 or 9000 series :rolleyes: oh wait
So yeah, whether the naming scheme is "copied" or not doesn't matter.
Just gotta get this ambiguous SKU matching headache out of the way.
The only real issue I have is the amount of stupid choice in the market with these cards.
There's an AMD card to fill every void between the nVidia and Intel stack.
There are no HHHL cards that are worth a damn from all three vendors.
Intel set a great price but skipped VR and FP64 support entirely, which means I can't give them the time of day.
There are no decent dual encoder AMD cards below $600 and double that rate on nVidia side. We need new cards now.
Anyway, the naming change is unnecessary. I don’t know what’s with AMD and their bizarre need to have a “higher model number” advantage over the competition, be it in CPUs or now GPUs, but I don’t see how that helps them actually sell the product. Like, I can see the idea from the point of sheer stupid marketing, but really, so they actually believe an average customer will go for a Radeon over NV just cause “number higher”? Then again, average customer is often dumb as rocks, so hey-ho.
Did they hire Raja again? I totally wouldn't be surprised if they tried to re-launch mGPU :D Its all part of the playbook...It would be hilarious if they made an RX 970 with 13,5 GB of VRAM. Just put a random chip somewhere, its ok.
Also can we have a moment to appreciate AMD does not want 'a void' in the naming of the SKUs so they put a void between the generations? Wtf are they smoking?Yeah Intel made a promising start. I'm just wondering if they can get the whole alphabet in there, should last us long enough.
Agreed, otherwise they might as well go full retard and call their next GPU, regardless of performance, an RXXX 9999 XTX Extreme Ultra Big Dick Ghz edition ft. Dante from the Devil May Cry Series (and Knuckles).
It used to be new generations would launch annually tik, tok and the mid range could expect significant performance improvements at reasonable prices.
You can see now why Nvidia put less vram on last couple of generations. Trying to create reasons to upgrade now. Along with RT.
Seems like the new AMD chips aren't even any better than the cards out now...
To me 8800 sounds better than 9700 but whatever.... AMD always has some strange marketing problems.
What it is called, how it looks despite good thermal performance, is the least important thing for me.
A little retrospect:
2002 - Radeon 9700 256bit 128MB DDR -250$
2016 - Radeon RX480 256bit 8GB GDDR5 -250$ (14 years later same price 64x !!! vram)
2024 - Radeon 7800XT 256bit 16GB GDDR6 - 450-500$ (8 years later, 1.75-2x price, 2x vram)
2025 - Radeon 9070 XT 256bit 16GB GDDR6 - 500-650$ ?
Again, no wonder they did and will loose marketshare.
Though I'm curious about GDDR7 on cheaper Nv products, but probably won't buy them either.