Sunday, December 22nd 2024

AMD Radeon "RX 8800 XT" is Actually the RX 9070 XT?

It turns out that the Radeon RX 8800 XT, the top SKU in AMD's next generation gaming GPU series, is actually named the Radeon RX 9070 XT. European computer hardware retailer may have leaked the name, along with that of the Radeon RX 9070 (non-XT), ahead of its January 2025 reveal. The two cards appeared in the store's search filters, where it was screengrabbed by enthusiasts. The RX 9070 XT is what was supposed to be the RX 8800 XT; while the RX 9070 is the RX 8800. Extrapolating this, the series could include the RX 9060 series, the RX 9050 series, and the RX 9040 series, says All The Watts.

What prompted this change in nomenclature probably has to do with the company's decision to withdraw from the enthusiast segment of gaming GPUs. While the RX 9070 XT technically succeeds the RX 7800 XT, a performance-segment, 1440p-class SKU, the company wouldn't want its product stack to have a "void" left by the lack of an "RX 8900 series." The company also took the opportunity to skip the RX 8000 series altogether, which probably give it room to rebadge some SKUs from the RX 7000 series over to the RX 8000 series. The RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 are based on the "Navi 48" silicon, and implement the RDNA 4 graphics architecture.
Sources: momomo_us (Twitter), All The Watts (Twitter)
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60 Comments on AMD Radeon "RX 8800 XT" is Actually the RX 9070 XT?

#51
Ruru
S.T.A.R.S.
BlaezaLiteI hope its "Shit name, great product"
HD 4890 called ya :laugh:

Shitty named yet great product's even better remake <3
DahitaI'm waiting for the RTXX 12020 XTXX Special X edition, which should come in three months seeing how fast they're moving forward with the nomenclature.
I remember the XFX GTX XXX cards, I need MOAR Xes, dammit!
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#52
N/A
Whatever the name, it's perfect for a console killer, but is it monolithic?
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#53
Marcus L
KritRX 7900 GRE performance for the same ~550€ price does not make any sense at all. It's not upgrade it's sidegrade. If it's true RIP amd!

RX 7800 XT already was kinda weak if compare to RX 6800 XT no performance gains at all! If next gen will be another small performance increase for the same or higher price it will be end.
3080-4070 what was the performance difference and the cost? we are getting the same performance for the same cost whilst told that advances are being made, only the top end you see the performance uplift and of course now for 4080-4090 you have to pay for that $1200-$2500 it's stagnation for the rest of the lower tiers with vRAM, performance and price, will take me 3-4 gens to get a good level of performance uplift at the £400 price that I paid for my RX 6800 over a year ago, screw them, let them sell their chips to AI and datacentre, I'm not willing to play their games, both AMD and Nvidia
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#54
ModEl4
What prompted this change in nomenclature probably has to do more with UDNA adoption and the need for a fresh start (UX 1070 or UX 170 the successor of RX 9070?) than the withdrawal from enthusiast segment.
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#55
Tomorrow
BabaThis naming makes so little sense. They could have waited until their UDNA architecture is out to make a completely new naming scheme. Start with 1xxx again.
Exactly my thoughts. UDNA would have brought a naming change regardless so changing the naming for the last RDNA generation makes zero sense.
All people will remember now is how they changed RDNA4 product names and then UDNA product names again. It gives the impression that they're flip-flopping and have no long term plan.
3valatzyThey have poorly working brains. Zen 5 is Ryzen 7, Zen 4 is Ryzen 6. Their names are a mess.
There is no "Ryzen 6". Ryzen is product name. Zen is architecture name. Each architecture also has it's own internal codenames.
TheDeeGeeBut it's the performance of a 970 ^^
AMD's iGPU's are faster than 970 these days...
RaceT3chCan't they just sort out a semi-normal naming system like with Ryzen?
That's what i want too. Consistency. Im not saying Ryzen naming scheme has been consistent with skipping 4000 series (in retail, it was OEM only) or skipping 6000 series or again skipping 8000 series. Then the odd naming of 5900XT that was 16c/32t CPU instead of *900 having been always 12c/24t.
KritRX 7900 GRE performance for the same ~550€ price does not make any sense at all. It's not upgrade it's sidegrade. If it's true RIP amd!

RX 7800 XT already was kinda weak if compare to RX 6800 XT no performance gains at all! If next gen will be another small performance increase for the same or higher price it will be end.
Even if raster perf is same the power consumption will be lower and RT perf will be increased. Not to mention doing away with disadvantages of chiplet design on 7900 GRE and 7800 XT. It was never going to be a 2x perf upgrade. More of a refinement.
3valatzyA third generation with virtually non-existent performance gains. RX 6800 XT -> RX 7800 XT -> RX 9070 XT.
I guess people will be happy to not spend on a "new" pretty expensive graphics card.
I would not call AMD's cards expensive. Not when there's a green elephant in the room...
N/AWhatever the name, it's perfect for a console killer, but is it monolithic?
Yes, yes it is monolithic this time.
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#56
AusWolf
JasBCFor god's sake AMD, stop copying names it just feels tacky!

(And stop with the suffix soup, f*ck that shit too)
Agreed. It's a bad naming scheme anyway, there's no need for so many numbers in a product stack that consists of only two chips (Navi 48 and 44).

Besides, if it starts with 9, it means the next gen will have to go through a complete name change again, which is really bad.
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#57
inquisitor1
bad naming but intel is far far worse which makes no sense.
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#58
AusWolf
inquisitor1bad naming but intel is far far worse which makes no sense.
I'm actually with Intel on this one. In B580, B is the generation, 5 is the product tier, and 8 is the product's place within the tier. There's only a random zero at the end for some reason. It's simple and clear.

AMD's and Nvidia's naming is full of zeros and suffixes which nobody needs or wants because it doesn't make sense. What's RX, for example? And why is every Nvidia card called RTX? It only made sense in the Turing era when some cards had RT, some didn't. And what's with the zeros in 9070 or 5090? Why not call them the 97 and 59? In fact, why not just call this card the Radeon Navi 48 XT?
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#59
DaemonForce
Thanks to Intel we now have a "580" from each vendor, which has become the restore point for all of this marketing nonsense.
More importantly, GTX580, RX580 and A580/B580 do not compare to each other at all. That's pretty funny.
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#60
AusWolf
DaemonForceThanks to Intel we now have a "580" from each vendor, which has become the restore point for all of this marketing nonsense.
More importantly, GTX580, RX580 and A580/B580 do not compare to each other at all. That's pretty funny.
Sounds like a collector's shelf, though. :rolleyes:
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