Tuesday, December 24th 2024

AMD to Launch Radeon RX 9070 Series and FSR 4 Alongside Ryzen 9 9000X3D Processors in January

AMD's client computing division is expected to have an action-packed 2025 International CES. On the CPU front, the company is expected to expand its Ryzen 9000X3D family with high-core count models, such as the Ryzen 9 9950X3D and Ryzen 9 9900X3D. It is also expected to introduce certain power-efficient 65 W models of its non-X3D Ryzen 9000 series "Zen 5" chips, which serve as value options within this processor generation, to try and lure buyers off the 65 W Intel Core Ultra "Arrow Lake-S" models. On the gaming graphics side, the company is expected to debut its Radeon RX 9000 series, led by the RX 9070 XT and RX 9070, both of which are based on the "Navi 48" silicon, and powered by the RDNA 4 graphics architecture.

That's not all, AMD is also expected to announce the new FSR 4 technology for gamers. Leaks describe FSR 4 as being a performance enhancement that's a generation ahead of FSR 3.x. While FSR 3.x combines super-resolution based performance enhancement, and algorithmic frame-generation that nearly doubles framerates; FSR 4 is expected to be AMD's first performance enhancement to incorporate AI to not just enhance the visual detail in super-resolution, but also to improve accuracy of frame-generation. At this point, it is not known if FSR 4 will be available as a feature at launch of the Radeon RX 9070 series. VideoCardz reports that the early-January announcements could be followed by late-January availability of the hardware.
Source: VideoCardz
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22 Comments on AMD to Launch Radeon RX 9070 Series and FSR 4 Alongside Ryzen 9 9000X3D Processors in January

#2
Daven
CES 2025 will have so many hardware launches I might have to take a week off of work to read about all of them.

More Arrow Lake desktop and mobile
More Zen 5 desktop and mobile
More Battlemage
Blackwell
RDNA4
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#3
mb194dc
So they're releasing a card that's seemingly similar in timespy GPU to cards released two years ago. Whilst pushing up scaling which massively reduces image quality... Great steps backwards with "AI". The CPUs are more interesting, there's only going to be a few use cases where they make sense over prior 3d and similar core count chips.
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#4
TheDeeGee
Rumored performance of the RX9070 XT is said to be the same as a RTX 4070 Ti.

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#5
sephiroth117
mb194dcSo they're releasing a card that's seemingly similar in timespy GPU to cards released two years ago. Whilst pushing up scaling which massively reduces image quality... Great steps backwards with "AI". The CPUs are more interesting, there's only going to be a few use cases where they make sense over prior 3d and similar core count chips.
we should maybe wait for the reveal

Keep in mind that the market for AMD is around:
  • Midrange GPU, your 7700XT things like that
  • handheld consoles whose usage has skyrocketed since the steam deck and where AMD clearly has a monopoly
  • consoles, xbox, ps5 and the ps5 pro, those consoles combined are 90-100+m sold already
Now, RDNA4, if they can make a 4080-level performance (native) but much cheaper, I can ensure you this will be a hit. Not everyone is aiming for a 8950XT or 5090, they are good for talking and as tech demonstrators,..but steam surveys are really clear: most don’t care

of course, it would also be interesting to see a 9090XT, I’d love to see that, however if that timespy score is achieved two years after with a much cheaper, efficient gpu, it’s also very interesting. All depends on the price
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#6
AcE
Now you can also call it “RX 90 series” now that they have copied Nvidias naming scheme. Looking forward to the tests
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#7
Daven
AcENow you can also call it “RX 90 series” now that they have copied Nvidias naming scheme. Looking forward to the tests
So now you are ‘allowed’ to buy AMD since both Nvidia and AMD GPU products are just copies of each other. So which Radeon are you going to buy, Navi 48 (mainstream) or Navi 44 (budget)?
sephiroth117we should maybe wait for the reveal

Keep in mind that the market for AMD is around:
  • Midrange GPU, your 7700XT things like that
  • handheld consoles whose usage has skyrocketed since the steam deck and where AMD clearly has a monopoly
  • consoles, xbox, ps5 and the ps5 pro, those consoles combined are 90-100+m sold already
Now, RDNA4, if they can make a 4080-level performance (native) but much cheaper, I can ensure you this will be a hit. Not everyone is aiming for a 8950XT or 5090, they are good for talking and as tech demonstrators,..but steam surveys are really clear: most don’t care

of course, it would also be interesting to see a 9090XT, I’d love to see that, however if that timespy score is achieved two years after with a much cheaper, efficient gpu, it’s also very interesting. All depends on the price
Don’t forget RDNA3.5 which will be in APUs. These chips will find their way into in-dash car entertainment systems, gambling slot machines, information kiosks, vending machines with LCD front panels and dozens and dozens of other informational, advertising and interactive terminals that use fluid graphics and animation.
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#8
john_
I am expecting FSR 4.x to stop supporting competing hardware.
Prima.VeraStay tuned for DLSS 4.0, that does exactly the same thing, but will ONLY work on RTX 5000 series.

www.tomsguide.com/gaming/pc-gaming/nvidia-dlss-4-leak-details-huge-upgrades-coming-to-rtx-50-series-gpus-higher-frame-rates-enhanced-ray-tracing-and-more
With Nvidia fans promoting DLS 3.x as better than native, I wonder what we should expect from DLSS 4.x to make it look as a huge upgrade. Maybe nude characters without the need of a nude patch? Just a thought.....
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#9
AcE
john_I am expecting FSR 4.x to stop supporting competing hardware.
Highly doubt that AMDs spread is simply not enough to support going the proprietary way. It could cancel out certain older architectures though.
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#10
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
Yes




Also yes - Because Im doing a silly £3k build for an amature radio DJ guy. So I'll hit two birds with one stone.
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#11
freeagent
I bet that was real money that they used back then.. she just tossed 10K of old money like it was nothing :D

Anyways.. hoping for the best in AMD land. Would be a good time for some competition :)
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#12
ZoneDymo
john_I am expecting FSR 4.x to stop supporting competing hardware.
doubt it, what wil become more and more confusing is again the naming, AMD is so bad at this crap....I almost want to slap them in the face.
FSR1 is not FSR2 is not FSR3, they arnt improvements, they are different technologies.....

FSR4 might be relying on machine learning/AI, it would still be vendor agnostic but your hardware does not to support that sorta tech so older hardware will be left out.
But for those FSR1 2 and 3 hopefully will still be an option (and if not, maybe the modding community can help)

Or ya know....forgo all that upscaling crap and just run teh game natively, im so ffing sick of this focus on upscaling.
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#13
john_
AcEHighly doubt that AMDs spread is simply not enough to support going the proprietary way. It could cancel out certain older architectures though.
AMD will continue offering FSR 3.1 and AMD also has AFMF 2, meaning every game has at least some kind of upscaling and Frame Generation support through AMD's driver. It's not perfect, it's not probably at the level that someone would expect a proper integration of FSR 3.1 in a game, but it is something that works from day 1 in every game. And I am expecting that driver support to be there for FSR 4.x also.
Also considering the backslash with Starfield not getting DLSS from day 1, while no one was objecting in cases where FSR wasn't supported, and also the fact that consumers keep buying blindly anything with an Nvidia logo on it, I doubt at AMD they have the will to keep throwing money on the gaming department. They could be feeling more pressure from Intel, but I doubt they are getting ready to push harder in gaming.
ZoneDymodoubt it, what wil become more and more confusing is again the naming, AMD is so bad at this crap....I almost want to slap them in the face.
FSR1 is not FSR2 is not FSR3, they arnt improvements, they are different technologies.....
How about DLSS 1 vs DLSS 2 vs DLSS 3 and which version runs on which Nvidia series and which Nvidia series supports Frame Generation or not.
Again everything AMD does is confusing and bad. Anything Nvidia does is natural.
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#14
Neo_Morpheus
Prima.VeraStay tuned for DLSS 4.0, that does exactly the same thing, but will ONLY work on RTX 5000 series.

www.tomsguide.com/gaming/pc-gaming/nvidia-dlss-4-leak-details-huge-upgrades-coming-to-rtx-50-series-gpus-higher-frame-rates-enhanced-ray-tracing-and-more
And nobody will call out Ngreedia for this.

There will be lots of excuses and justifications and they will simply give them more money.

But if AMD dares saying that FSR 4 only works on RDNA4...oh boy, the trashing will never stop.

Heck, Tim Jensen from Ngreedia Unboxed must be salivating at that scenario, just so he can trash AMD more, like how he went ballistic when it was rumored that AMD blocked his beloved DLSS from Starfield.

Anyways, I hate all these hype rumors and assumptions because if AMD doesnt deliver based on them, the influencers favorite moniker "DOA" will be flying all over.
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#15
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
ZoneDymodoubt it, what wil become more and more confusing is again the naming, AMD is so bad at this crap....I almost want to slap them in the face.
FSR1 is not FSR2 is not FSR3, they arnt improvements, they are different technologies.....

FSR4 might be relying on machine learning/AI, it would still be vendor agnostic but your hardware does not to support that sorta tech so older hardware will be left out.
But for those FSR1 2 and 3 hopefully will still be an option (and if not, maybe the modding community can help)

Or ya know....forgo all that upscaling crap and just run teh game natively, im so ffing sick of this focus on upscaling.
john_AMD will continue offering FSR 3.1 and AMD also has AFMF 2, meaning every game has at least some kind of upscaling and Frame Generation support through AMD's driver. It's not perfect, it's not probably at the level that someone would expect a proper integration of FSR 3.1 in a game, but it is something that works from day 1 in every game. And I am expecting that driver support to be there for FSR 4.x also.
Also considering the backslash with Starfield not getting DLSS from day 1, while no one was objecting in cases where FSR wasn't supported, and also the fact that consumers keep buying blindly anything with an Nvidia logo on it, I doubt at AMD they have the will to keep throwing money on the gaming department. They could be feeling more pressure from Intel, but I doubt they are getting ready to push harder in gaming.


How about DLSS 1 vs DLSS 2 vs DLSS 3 and which version runs on which Nvidia series and which Nvidia series supports Frame Generation or not.
Again everything AMD does is confusing and bad. Anything Nvidia does is natural.
Makes you wonder if the green cards can even be ran offline...

That should be tested, no internet connection in a sp game or a bot match...
Neo_MorpheusAnd nobody will call out Ngreedia for this.

There will be lots of excuses and justifications and they will simply give them more money.

But if AMD dares saying that FSR 4 only works on RDNA4...oh boy, the trashing will never stop.

Heck, Tim Jensen from Ngreedia Unboxed must be salivating at that scenario, just so he can trash AMD more, like how he went ballistic when it was rumored that AMD blocked his beloved DLSS from Starfield.

Anyways, I hate all these hype rumors and assumptions because if AMD doesnt deliver based on them, the influencers favorite moniker "DOA" will be flying all over.
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#16
john_
Neo_MorpheusTim Jensen
Ah!!!! Tim. The man who could spot a misplaced pixel in FSR took over 2 years to notice noise in DLSS.

And of course finding noise in Nvidia's RT is nothing of interest, so no other articles about this was written.

PS I have to say that it was strange to see Tim posting such a video. Maybe he is trying to convince us that he is unbiased?

Anyway.......
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#17
Neo_Morpheus
After the Starfield fiasco I stopped following them and watching their videos.

Same for Digital Foundry and TechSpot.
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#18
Event Horizon
This will hopefully bring FSR in line with current gen temporal upscalers.
  1. DLSS 3.x
  2. DLSS 2.x
  3. FSR 4.0 ?
  4. XeSS 1.x
  5. FSR 3.x
  6. FSR 2.x
Hoping for better image stability with less flickering (especially on foilage), and less ghosting (particularly on particle effects).
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#19
Visible Noise
Neo_MorpheusAfter the Starfield fiasco I stopped following them and watching their videos.

Same for Digital Foundry and TechSpot.
You sure do have a of your ego tied up in AMD. Are you sure that’s healthy?
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#20
john_
Event HorizonThis will hopefully bring FSR in line with current gen temporal upscalers.
  1. DLSS 3.x
  2. DLSS 2.x
  3. FSR 4.0 ?
  4. XeSS 1.x
  5. FSR 3.x
  6. FSR 2.x
Hoping for better image stability with less flickering (especially on foilage), and less ghosting (particularly on particle effects).
But not good enough to dethrone even DLSS 2.x?
You seem overoptimistic there.
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#21
Neo_Morpheus
Visible NoiseYou sure do have a of your ego tied up in AMD. Are you sure that’s healthy?
Moral integrity, fairness and unbiased judgement do matters a lot to me.
john_But not good enough to dethrone even DLSS 2.x?
You seem overoptimistic there.
Dont blame him, he is believing the “fair and unbiased” information from Tim Jensen. :D
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#22
PixelTech
Neo_MorpheusMoral integrity, fairness and unbiased judgement do matters a lot to me.


Dont blame him, he is believing the “fair and unbiased” information from Tim Jensen. :D
Something erked me about how they benchmark, sometimes they don't equally benchmark the newer stuff with competitors. Either they give one system worse RAM, they still won't update their M.2 drive to a PCIe 5.0 drive, or unfairly benchmark OS versions with a worse version for the competition. The excuses they give for not equally benchmarking or updating older benchmarks for comparisons are not valid, and could be seen as lazy. I understand that benchmarking 10+ variations of systems with 15+ different benchmarks/games takes a lot time, but if it isn't equally done, they aren't a full resource to credit.
I find it important for reviewers to be including what game engine video games use in their benchmarks, as it shows the age of the video game and what tools were at the disposal for developers. Also, I feel like even games that are on the same engine are still not equal. Due to either the video game is built only for PC, built for PC then ported to consoles, OR (the most important thing to remember imo) the game was built for the hardware one console then ported over to other consoles/PC. But this kind of info is in-depth and shows up in GN's reviews. However, the positive side of HWU is that they benchmark 35+ games and that makes for a great average, but sometimes they benchmark games no one is playing or heard of.
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