Tuesday, December 31st 2024

Path of Exile 2 Security Breach Blindsides Players With Lost Loot As Developer Remains Silent

A new security breach is trying to pump the brakes on Path Of Exile 2's overwhelmingly positive late 2024 launch, as a mysterious hack appears to be making the rounds in the new RPG, although the source of the vulnerability is yet to be identified. According to a growing number of posts on the Path of Exile 2 forum, subreddit, and even the game's Steam reviews, players are apparently logging into their PoE 2 accounts only to find that all their loot and gear they've now spent dozens or even hundreds of hours grinding for, has been removed from their accounts. The most alarming thing is that nobody seems to know how these hacks are happening. Some players say they changed their main email address and Steam login passwords days before they were hacked, and most seem to have no Steam 2FA requests, suggesting that there is either a security issue with the Path of Exile 2 game servers or there is some sort of session hijacking happening that is giving bad actors access to player accounts.

Until now, Grinding Gear Games, the developer behind Path of Exile 2, has not openly commented on the hacking incidents, with a single comment from the support team on the forum advising players to email support about it if they encounter such instances. According to the Steam review mentioning an account hacking incident, however, the player managed to track down the hacker on his own, subsequently contacted support and posted about it in the PoE 2 forum, and asked the moderator to assist in preventing the sale of the rest of his goods. This attempt was apparently enough to get the gamer's forum posts removed and put on probation. Meanwhile, the support request was met even more unkindly, with PoE 2 support going so far as to lock him out of his own account. He also isn't alone, with others in the Path of Exile 2 forum reporting that sharing the in-game name of their alleged hacker with support has led to their game account being locked.
Some have theorized that the hacks are linked to real-money trading or third-party in-game overlays or mods, however this has been refuted by a number of victims in the game forum. Currently, it seems like players have little hopes of getting the gear or items they lost in the hacks back, since adding a swathe of rare items into the game's economy out of the blue would likely be bad for the overall balance.

For the time being, until Grinding Gear Games finds a way to reliably deal with the hackers, it looks like players will just have to be extra careful who they interact with and how they keep their online gaming world secure, although there seemingly isn't much security from this threat in the likes of strong passwords or even Steam 2FA. While Path of Exile 2 is still in early access, meaning oversights and bugs are to be expected, it is also a paid early access period, so many gamers somewhat reasonably expect that security issues would be dealt with more swiftly and decisively than they have been so far.
Sources: Path of Exile forums, Path of Exile 2 on Steam, r/PathofExile on Reddit
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45 Comments on Path of Exile 2 Security Breach Blindsides Players With Lost Loot As Developer Remains Silent

#1
Vayra86
Paid.
Early.
Access.

I guess fools and gametime got parted here.
I hope people learn and devs get wiser.
Paying for unfinished product is just stupidity. Its a pre order with a different name and apparently, it doesn't add to the quality of the release.
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#2
Prima.Vera
After the Diablo 4 scam, I'm no longer willing to pay for those kind of games, especially if there is no quality story involved, and just mindless grinding.
I can patiently wait another year until it becomes Free-To-Play. No rush.
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#3
ratirt
Vayra86Paid.
Early.
Access.

I guess fools and gametime got parted here.
I hope people learn and devs get wiser.
Paying for unfinished product is just stupidity. Its a pre order with a different name and apparently, it doesn't add to the quality of the release.
I paid and I play and if my loot gets stolen I'm ok with it since as you said, it is early access and things can go wrong so I'm aware of the risk. Either way, the game is pretty good and I really enjoy playing it. I dont have a lot of time to play but it is a great game. Calling people stupid because they have purchased early access, is a little bit harsh in my opinion. Stupid for people who do not understand early access risks and blame developers for some issues would have been stupid but that just my opinion.
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#4
Onasi
@Vayra86
Early Access with a good developer who constantly takes feedback and improves the game based on it is a great experience. Unfortunately, I genuinely don’t know of any cases that would be applicable except for Supergiant and Larian. Mostly it is a shitshow or, indeed, a paid beta.
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#5
Woomack
What is sad is that "finished" games recently have many more issues than the early release of PoE2. Still, PoE2 costs significantly less and is fully playable without issues. There are some little bugs, but it's far from problems with most AAA games that were released recently and cost $70+.
I went through the whole game without performance or stability issues. The first day was full of server issues, but that's all.
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#6
JustBenching
Vayra86Paid.
Early.
Access.

I guess fools and gametime got parted here.
I hope people learn and devs get wiser.
Paying for unfinished product is just stupidity. Its a pre order with a different name and apparently, it doesn't add to the quality of the release.
Contrary to other early access games, what you pay you get back in in game currency. Stash tabs, skins or whatever else you desire. If you were planning to play the game once released, it's one of the cases where it doesn't make sense not to get the early access deal imo.
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#7
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Onasi@Vayra86
Early Access with a good developer who constantly takes feedback and improves the game based on it is a great experience. Unfortunately, I genuinely don’t know of any cases that would be applicable except for Supergiant and Larian. Mostly it is a shitshow or, indeed, a paid beta.
Vayra86Paid.
Early.
Access.

I guess fools and gametime got parted here.
I hope people learn and devs get wiser.
Paying for unfinished product is just stupidity. Its a pre order with a different name and apparently, it doesn't add to the quality of the release.
Good examples:

Subnautica
Timberborn
The Long Dark
Farthest Frontier
Dyson Sphere Program
Satisfactory
Terra Invicta

There is little difference between a good EA release and a 1.0 release.
Vayra86Paid.
Early.
Access.

I guess fools and gametime got parted here.
I hope people learn and devs get wiser.
Paying for unfinished product is just stupidity. Its a pre order with a different name and apparently, it doesn't add to the quality of the release.
Hey wait a minute, you play and like Farthest Frontier!
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#8
Firedrops
Onasi@Vayra86
Early Access with a good developer who constantly takes feedback and improves the game based on it is a great experience. Unfortunately, I genuinely don’t know of any cases that would be applicable except for Supergiant and Larian. Mostly it is a shitshow or, indeed, a paid beta.
GGG has crammed all their worst visions down players throats all over again. Everything that has received major backlash in POE1 is back in POE2. I've never seen a studio try so hard to destroy their game and company, over so many years, and then constantly getting praised for "listening to feedback", 3-12 months later.
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#9
Vayra86
FrickGood examples:

Subnautica
Timberborn
The Long Dark
Farthest Frontier
Dyson Sphere Program
Satisfactory
Terra Invicta

There is little difference between a good EA release and a 1.0 release.



Hey wait a minute, you play and like Farthest Frontier!
Its always a risk. I burned myself a few times too.
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#10
DeathtoGnomes
The best course of action over this hack is to
1. fix it.
2. do a complete wipe and make everyone start all over for obvious reasons.
3. publish findings for breech
4. apologize to the player base.
5 continue on ignoring player postings for 3-12 months.
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#11
agatong55
Are we sure its just not the developers removing peoples gear to maybe these players taking advantage of a bug or a glitch to get that gear??

I mean why else would they lock the accounts of those who are getting "hacked" im guessing there is more to this than what people on those forums and reddit are saying
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#12
TPUnique
DeathtoGnomesThe best course of action over this hack is to
1. fix it.
2. do a complete wipe and make everyone start all over for obvious reasons.
3. publish findings for breech
4. apologize to the player base.
5 continue on ignoring player postings for 3-12 months.
0. Acknowledge there's an issue in the first place
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#13
Gucky
Well. They are probably have vacation right now.

Many others and I also have a bad issue with the game right now.
Often times when it is loading a map, the game breaks the CPU, forcing a hard crash. The only thing you can do afterwards is to cut power for a restart, forcing you to lose data.
If you are unlucky the OS might break and you have to reinstall your whole PC.
That problem exists since launch of early access.
FiredropsGGG has crammed all their worst visions down players throats all over again. Everything that has received major backlash in POE1 is back in POE2. I've never seen a studio try so hard to destroy their game and company, over so many years, and then constantly getting praised for "listening to feedback", 3-12 months later.
And still selling packs with cosmetic and functional ingame items for over 450$... And the same people buying those packs are probably hating about Diablo 4 and the Skin-Shop...
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#14
bug
Vayra86Paid.
Early.
Access.

I guess fools and gametime got parted here.
I hope people learn and devs get wiser.
Paying for unfinished product is just stupidity. Its a pre order with a different name and apparently, it doesn't add to the quality of the release.
Way off base. First PoE early access was solid, a lot of player feedback was put to good use.
Sure, if you're after a hassle-free experience, you will wait for the official release. But if you want to jump in early and, for a change, make a contribution, I can't think of a better title than PoE.
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#15
Vayra86
bugWay off base. First PoE early access was solid, a lot of player feedback was put to good use.
Sure, if you're after a hassle-free experience, you will wait for the official release. But if you want to jump in early and, for a change, make a contribution, I can't think of a better title than PoE.
This is a paid EA for a F2P game. Make a contribution is one way to put it. But these players were also getting a headstart, in a way buying a bit of pay to win. Im not a fan of those practices... they arent going to wipe accounts for the real release right? Thats dirty AF.

The first PoE had the monetary part done quite well but also kept pushing more and more new 'kinda have to pay to play' elements for example by simply flooding your stash with new collectibles/materials.
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#16
bug
Vayra86This is a paid EA for a F2P game. Make a contribution is one way to put it. But these players were also getting a headstart, in a way buying a bit of pay to win. Im not a fan of those practices... they arent going to wipe accounts for the real release right? Thats dirty AF.
Neah, early access for the first PoE only included the first chapter. Out of the initial 4 (iirc) which was later expanded to 10 chapters. And none of end-game maps/content. It was mostly there to sort out the mechanics, game infra and stuff. If you got an advantage during the early access, it was very minute. PoE is the farthest from p2w it can be. I wouldn't have sunk hundreds of hours in it otherwise, I hate p2w with a passion.
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#17
Event Horizon
It's a fun game, but it's designed to annoy you until you spend money. Towns are full of players prancing about in their excessively flashy cosmetics, contrasting heavily against the bland default look. On top of that, the stash is a nightmare to organize unless you buy specialized stash tabs. It's not mobile game levels of annoyance, but it's there.
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#18
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
Cpt.Jankhowever this has been refuted by a number of victims in the game forum.
Because they used bots to get the gear that was stolen; I’m SHOCKED they wouldn’t admit to it publicly.
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#19
bug
Event HorizonIt's a fun game, but it's designed to annoy you until you spend money. Towns are full of players prancing about in their excessively flashy cosmetics, contrasting heavily against the bland default look. On top of that, the stash is a nightmare to organize unless you buy specialized stash tabs. It's not mobile game levels of annoyance, but it's there.
I never felt other people looking flashy put any pressure on me.
Stash tabs... Yes, that always comes up. It's the only thing you can buy that will net you an advantage. But the advantage is you can hoard and categorize stuff, it's not directly linked to gameplay. They become a requirement eventually. But by the time they do, you've already played enough of the game that the few $$$ you throw the devs way are (imho) just a small token of gratitude for the time already spent in the game. And tabs were discounted almost all the time. Checking right now, you can get 6 regular tabs for $15 or 6 premium tabs for $20 (full price). That used to be a lot. Though it seems quite a few other stash tab types have popped up since I quit.

TL;DR Yes, stash tabs mean you will have to spend if you want to keep advancing. No, I still don't see that as p2w (but I understand why others might).
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#20
chrcoluk
Played the first game for a bit, only because friends liked it, but personally couldnt stand it, just repetitive slug fest.
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#21
Xeanoa
I played mainly HC-SSF, so not much for me to lose.

Although already stopped playing a while ago, they really need to fix their terrible netcode first.
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#22
Gucky
bugWay off base. First PoE early access was solid, a lot of player feedback was put to good use.
But that is exactly the problem. That feedback is NOT in PoE2. I am missing some things from PoE1 in PoE2...

I stopped playing, because it crashes regulary. The only game that crashes on my PC btw. And the only one in the last 4+ years that completely freezes my PC.
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#23
Veseleil
agatong55Are we sure its just not the developers removing peoples gear to maybe these players taking advantage of a bug or a glitch to get that gear??
If that's the case, there are much better choices of action, than to break people's accounts to remove "illegal" stuff, don't you think?
agatong55I mean why else would they lock the accounts of those who are getting "hacked" im guessing there is more to this than what people on those forums and reddit are saying
Because the "hacker" might be one of the devs (and probably is)?
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#24
Event Horizon
bugI never felt other people looking flashy put any pressure on me.
Stash tabs... Yes, that always comes up. It's the only thing you can buy that will net you an advantage. But the advantage is you can hoard and categorize stuff, it's not directly linked to gameplay. They become a requirement eventually. But by the time they do, you've already played enough of the game that the few $$$ you throw the devs way are (imho) just a small token of gratitude for the time already spent in the game. And tabs were discounted almost all the time. Checking right now, you can get 6 regular tabs for $15 or 6 premium tabs for $20 (full price). That used to be a lot. Though it seems quite a few other stash tab types have popped up since I quit.

TL;DR Yes, stash tabs mean you will have to spend if you want to keep advancing. No, I still don't see that as p2w (but I understand why others might).
That's fair. I think P2W is hard to nail down. Elsewhere there are examples of blatant P2W like selling OP gear and character classes and skins that make you hard to see (in games where that matters), and there are more subtle cases of P2W like XP and crafting boosters, and various types of QOL. IMO, paying to reduce the effort it takes to succeed is a lesser variant of P2W. It's hard to compete with someone who has stash tabs and as far as I know you can't earn them in-game. Good loot is hard to come by and it's part of the reason some people are motived to cheat.
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