So... just like the ASUS ROG pair announced earlier?

wNotyarDSo... just like the ASUS ROG pair announced earlier?

Not quite, the ASUS monitors have the proximity sensors to turn off the screen when away from the monitor, which in turn saves power. Then the 1440p monitor from Gigabyte uses DP 2.1 so it can be used without DSC. While, disappointedly, ASUS' uses DP 1.4a

Still looking for a great non-OLED curved 34 inch screen :(

PixelTechNot quite, the ASUS monitors have the proximity sensors to turn off the screen when away from the monitor, which in turn saves power. Then the 1440p monitor from Gigabyte uses DP 2.1 so it can be used without DSC. While, disappointedly, ASUS' uses DP 1.4a

The DP2.1 might be the deciding factor for those who care, since it is a coin toss whether the DSC implementation induce lag, and these monitors are too expensive to be a coin toss.
But then again, the real deciding factor for most people is that glowing ROG eye.

DahitaStill looking for a great non-OLED curved 34 inch screen :(

Those have existed for ages. That's ancient tech. Non-OLED curved 34 inch monitors existed before the OLED ones. The OLED ones came out ~3 years ago. There should be plenty on the used market if you're so inclined. Below are some new ones. This list is by no means exhaustive.

This one uses IPS Black
www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-34-curved-thunderbolt-hub-monitor-u3425we/apd/210-bmds/monitors-monitor-accessories

VA
www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/G34WQC-A#kf

VA
www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/G34WQCP/sp#sp

VA
www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34wp65c-b-ultrawide-monitor

www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34sr60qc-b-ultrawide-monitor

ScrizzThose have existed for ages. That's ancient tech.

Thanks man, that's precisely why I'm still waiting for an upgrade on the tech. Oled is ancient tech too if you go this way.

Post Nut ClairvoyanceBut then again, the real deciding factor for most people is that glowing ROG eye.

I hope that can still be turned off. It could on my old Asus monitor.

DahitaThanks man, that's precisely why I'm still waiting for an upgrade on the tech. Oled is ancient tech too if you go this way.

You want an upgrade of what exactly?

OLED is the upgrade to anything with IPS or VA. Other than that you can safely forget much if anything to get innovated further on LCD. Its all there, but in different price segments.

Vayra86You want an upgrade of what exactly?

OLED is the upgrade to anything with IPS or VA. Other than that you can safely forget much if anything to get innovated further on LCD. Its all there, but in different price segments.

Not quite. The burn-in risk (especially when used as a Windows monitor), low brightness and image degradation potential of OLED overtime doesn't work for me. I'd go QD-OLED for better brightness but you still have those risks, and the other issue is the pixel structure (text is not pleasant to read).

IPS is the way to go, but there's no 34 curved monitor with a true 10Bits color / 240Hz option. I'm hoping someone releases one this year.

DahitaThanks man, that's precisely why I'm still waiting for an upgrade on the tech. Oled is ancient tech too if you go this way.

I'm not sure how we can progress past OLED without changing over to a completely different viewing format like virtual reality. OLED has perfect contrast ratio and near perfect motion response. Basically, a 120hz OLED feels like a 165hz LCD. Micro LED is Samsung cope.

Personally, I quite content with 1080p ultrawide and think it's the best resolution for getting the most life out of your graphics. I don't see myself upgrading past my Sceptre 30" 200hz Freesync premium monitor unless it breaks.

DahitaNot quite. The burn-in risk (especially when used as a Windows monitor), low brightness and image degradation potential of OLED overtime doesn't work for me. I'd go QD-OLED for better brightness but you still have those risks, and the other issue is the pixel structure (text is not pleasant to read).

IPS is the way to go, but there's no 34 curved monitor with a true 10Bits color / 240Hz option. I'm hoping someone releases one this year.

This is 2014 scare mongering that is completely overstated. Almost every phone today is OLED and no one is complaining about 'burn-in'. I have left my C3 on all day with a paused video on one time, not a smudge of burn in. IPS is budget tech now.

Sound_CardI'm not sure how we can progress past OLED without changing over to a completely different viewing format like virtual reality. OLED has perfect contrast ratio and near perfect motion response. Basically, a 120hz OLED feels like a 165hz LCD. Micro LED is Samsung cope.

Personally, I quite content with 1080p ultrawide and think it's the best resolution for getting the most life out of your graphics. I don't see myself upgrading past my Sceptre 30" 200hz Freesync premium monitor unless it breaks.

The next step seems to be MAX Oled. Better pixel lifetime, better brightness, less consumption. Fingers crossed.

This is 2014 scare mongering that is completely overstated. Almost every phone today is OLED and no one is complaining about 'burn-in'. I have left my C3 on all day with a paused video on one time, not a smudge of burn in. IPS is budget tech now.

I don't know what is with this "fear mongering" concept some here keep talking about. It's a technology issue inherent to the nature of OLED. It's got better over time but it's still an issue that manufacturers are working on. Even Gigabyte mentions it (global.aorus.com/blog-detail.php?i=1233). Your phone screen isn't on 18 hours a day with a static task bar, icon and background. I don't think any current OLED used as a computer monitor can live past 10 years this way without serious degradation (already a challenge with LCDs).

It's hard to understand the denial regarding this.

DahitaThe next step seems to be MAX Oled. Better pixel lifetime, better brightness, less consumption. Fingers crossed.


I don't know what is with this "fear mongering" concept some here keep talking about. It's a technology issue inherent to the nature of OLED. It's got better over time but it's still an issue that manufacturers are working on. Even Gigabyte mentions it (global.aorus.com/blog-detail.php?i=1233). Your phone screen isn't on 18 hours a day with a static task bar, icon and background. I don't think any current OLED used as a computer monitor can live past 10 years this way without serious degradation (already a challenge with LCDs).

It's hard to understand the denial regarding this.

It's an issue that is once again - overstated. I'm not denying that there is no risk. I would argue that all the OLED safety tech has considerably less to do with the risk factors and more to do with convincing people that OLED is safe to buy, because it is. You have a sizable market that is utterly convinced that buying OLED is suicide. When Dell and LG are throwing down 3 year warranties when I don't even get that on many IPS monitors should already be convincing.

Sound_CardIt's an issue that is once again - overstated. I'm not denying that there is no risk. I would argue that all the OLED safety tech has considerably less to do with the risk factors and more to do with convincing people that OLED is safe to buy, because it is. You have a sizable market that is utterly convinced that buying OLED is suicide. When Dell and LG are throwing down 3 year warranties when I don't even get that on many IPS monitors should already be convincing.

Any source on the "overstatement"? You're comparing TV usage with monitor usage, don't forget that. My Asus LCD is hitting its 10 year mark this year, no issue whatsoever. I wouldn't get that with an OLED. You understand there's a reason why manufacturers keep working on solutions to address it.

I'm not buying a monitor $1000 to change it five years down the road.

DahitaAny source on the "overstatement"? You're comparing TV usage with monitor usage, don't forget that. My Asus LCD is hitting its 10 year mark this year, no issue whatsoever. I wouldn't get that with an OLED. You understand there's a reason why manufacturers keep working on solutions to address it.

I'm not buying a monitor $1000 to change it five years down the road.

I agree with you. For pure monitor use, as in, careless monitor use like you would on LCD back in the days when nobody cared about power consumption and screensavers were there instead of monitor standby, this is a thing.

For all other use, its barely a thing, but yes, if you were to play one game all the time, or have desktop on the monitor all the time, for damn sure you will be seeing those UI elements after prolonged periods of time. At the same time, pixel refreshers are capable of hiding that quite well.

Also, don't forget the fact that LCD is also suffering from degradation: color and brightness uniformity for example; the latter is already worse out of the box than ANY OLED (!); and the backlight also degrades slowly, generally moving ever further away from the intended white point balance it was shipped with. Many LCD's therefore turn 'more yellow' towards 5 years + of usage. But because its gradual you don't notice it that much; but put it next to a new one, and its like you're working with a vastly different color temperature even though you're not.

OLEDs on the other hand, have intricate technologies that preserve color balance and white point; OLED will instead suffer on peak brightness - and thát degradation is partially covered, and quite well at that, by the fact that OLED dots can be very bright individually. They have a lot of wiggle room, so to speak, which is required for pixel refreshers to work (every time they do that, there is a chance some pixels will be driven harder or less hard to keep the uniformity in check).

Now, if you combine non careless monitor use with the advanced OLED tech, I reckon the lifetime of the two technologies won't be that different in the end. Its also a matter of acceptance of a certain degree of degradation. Both technologies will degrade. The factor of cost however can be the dealbreaker; if you consider the two monitors will last about equally long (doing their job right, without too much visible degradation), the OLED version is still easily twice the price. I think that's the main thing keeping me from an OLED monitor for now; and warranty won't help you here either.

Sound_CardIt's an issue that is once again - overstated. I'm not denying that there is no risk. I would argue that all the OLED safety tech has considerably less to do with the risk factors and more to do with convincing people that OLED is safe to buy, because it is. You have a sizable market that is utterly convinced that buying OLED is suicide. When Dell and LG are throwing down 3 year warranties when I don't even get that on many IPS monitors should already be convincing.

Of course not. These companies would very much like you to replace your monitor come year 4 or 5. Its better than customers keeping their TFTs for upwards of 10 years like they do now. Or even longer. The issue is real. It is not overstated. And if you don't keep it into account while using an OLED panel, you will reach 4 years, but not a whole lot more, without visible degradation. After that its just a matter of what you're willing to accept, or cope with. Sure, the 3 year warranty is there to instill trust, but like most warranties, it never covers the period that truly matters if the product is in working order.

The long term testing shows the burn in quite clearly. Its almost a certainty that OLEDs will have a shorter lifespan than LCDs. Ideally, this is reflected in the price, but its not. OLED is not out in the wilds for long enough to have absolute certainty, but all evidence points to this issue so far, so its real and you shouldn't live in denial about it. At the same time like I tried to say above here, ALL panels degrade, even LCD.

Vayra86I agree with you. For pure monitor use, as in, careless monitor use like you would on LCD back in the days when nobody cared about power consumption and screensavers were there instead of monitor standby, this is a thing.

For all other use, its barely a thing, but yes, if you were to play one game all the time, or have desktop on the monitor all the time, for damn sure you will be seeing those UI elements after prolonged periods of time. At the same time, pixel refreshers are capable of hiding that quite well.

Also, don't forget the fact that LCD is also suffering from degradation: color and brightness uniformity for example; the latter is already worse out of the box than ANY OLED (!); and the backlight also degrades slowly, generally moving ever further away from the intended white point balance it was shipped with. Many LCD's therefore turn 'more yellow' towards 5 years + of usage. But because its gradual you don't notice it that much; but put it next to a new one, and its like you're working with a vastly different color temperature even though you're not.

OLEDs on the other hand, have intricate technologies that preserve color balance and white point; OLED will instead suffer on peak brightness - and thát degradation is partially covered, and quite well at that, by the fact that OLED dots can be very bright individually. They have a lot of wiggle room, so to speak, which is required for pixel refreshers to work (every time they do that, there is a chance some pixels will be driven harder or less hard to keep the uniformity in check).

Now, if you combine non careless monitor use with the advanced OLED tech, I reckon the lifetime of the two technologies won't be that different in the end. Its also a matter of acceptance of a certain degree of degradation. Both technologies will degrade. The factor of cost however can be the dealbreaker; if you consider the two monitors will last about equally long (doing their job right, without too much visible degradation), the OLED version is still easily twice the price. I think that's the main thing keeping me from an OLED monitor for now; and warranty won't help you here either.

You make all good points. There's another point I want to add; IMO, QD-OLED wins the brightness and HDR content handling, but the pixel structure makes text display less than ideal.

Given the technology improvement that is coming in (LG has already annouced an improvement in brightness and is ditching MLA) this year, if I can't find a decent cuvred IPS at 240hz with 10bits colors, I'll just wait a little longer to get a product that has it all.