Friday, January 24th 2025

NVIDIA Likely Sending Maxwell, Pascal & Volta Architectures to CUDA Legacy Branch

Team Green's CUDA 12.8 release notes have revealed upcoming changes for three older GPU architectures—the document's "Deprecated and Dropped Features" section outlines forthcoming changes. A brief sentence outlines a less active future for affected families: "architecture support for Maxwell, Pascal, and Volta is considered feature-complete and will be frozen in an upcoming release." Further down, NVIDIA states that a small selection of operating systems have been dropped from support lists, including Microsoft Windows 10 21H2 and Debian 11.

Refocusing on matters of hardware—Michael Larabel, Phoronix's editor-in-chief, has kindly provided a bit of history and context. "Four years ago with the NVIDIA 470 series was the legacy branch for GeForce GTX 600 and 700 Kepler series and now as we embark on the NVIDIA 570 driver series, it looks like it could end up being the legacy branch for Maxwell, Pascal, and Volta generations of GPUs." Larabel and other industry watchdogs reckon that the incoming "Blackwell" generation is taking priority, with Team Green likely freeing up resources and concentrating less on taking care of decade+ old hardware. VideoCardz believes that gaming GPU support will continue—at least for Maxwell (e.g. GeForce GTX 900) and Pascal (GeForce GTX 10 series)—based on a playtesting of the toolkit's latest set of integrated drivers (version 571.96).
Sources: Phoronix, VideoCardz, NVIDIA Docs
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36 Comments on NVIDIA Likely Sending Maxwell, Pascal & Volta Architectures to CUDA Legacy Branch

#26
Waldorf
@TheinsanegamerN
because atm i have zero income, in form of money.
ignoring this does not mean i sleep on the street or dont know what to eat tomorrow.

my problem is Nv charged a lot to ppl buying (decent) RTX, upper 3 digits prices should get you some support (vs say 1040).
and like Lex said, its not always about supporting the latest game or lack thereof, which im not concerned with, as i didnt see anything worth spending 60-100$ on (even if i had it).
besides, siege for example, isnt new, but they still added stuff like vulcan/reflex later, and the next time (this or other games), it might be an issue without newer driver.
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#27
R-T-B
lexluthermiesterTrue, but it's time of support thing. How long will it be before Windows 11 starts complaining about older drivers?... Even if they just slap a fresh date code into the driver sig, that would be enough.


I'm one of them. I still have an use Pascal based cards in my home and yes I have a problem with NVidia dropping support for cards that still run great.


I expect NVidia to continue supporting cards that are still in common use and still perform well.
They are still getting security updates at least for now, so doubtful that'll happen in the window of this cards relevance.
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#28
chrcoluk
Which drivers are required for the new transformer DLSS 4?
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#29
igormp
igormpI find Pascal and Maxwell being throw in there fair, but I do find it weird that Volta was shoved in there as well, given that it was the first gen with tensor core support.
Oh, I just remembered that Volta lacks the GSP, so that may be why it's getting the boot. It's not even supported by Nvidia's open source module because of that.
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#30
Jonny5isalivetm5
Im not in a big rush to upgrade as I got a 1080ti few years ago for ultra bargain and with the current ripoff ngreedia charge I might be keeping my "Dinosaur" for awhile yet ^_^

Order date: 09 Sep, 2022
Order total: £115.00

I only play a few games anyway so Indiana Jones can go do one :D
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#31
lexluthermiester
Jonny5isalivetm5Im not in a big rush to upgrade as I got a 1080ti few years ago for ultra bargain and with the current ripoff ngreedia charge I might be keeping my "Dinosaur" for awhile yet ^_^

Order date: 09 Sep, 2022
Order total: £115.00

I only play a few games anyway so Indiana Jones can go do one :D
You'de be surprised how many modern games still run on a 1080ti. Hell, my 1070ti and 1080 still work well.
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#32
Lycanwolfen
lexluthermiesterYou'de be surprised how many modern games still run on a 1080ti. Hell, my 1070ti and 1080 still work well.
Yep and I myself with twin 1080ti's still in Sli run very well at 4k, It's actually amazing I can even makes games look like they are using RTX using reshade me post processing. Games look surreal and no performance hits.
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#33
lexluthermiester
LycanwolfenYep and I myself with twin 1080ti's still in Sli run very well at 4k
Wow! Nice.
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#35
R-T-B
Yeah my brother was using a plain 1080 for 1080p gaming until just recently. According to him, it aged pretty damn well, and he'd still be using it had it not went kaput (VRM failure, an eventuality for all these old cards I guess).
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#36
_roman_
Waldorfconsidering ~50% of global gamers are on 720/1080, i assume its gonna be a few ppl that stuff older than rtx2xxx
I used for a few months early 2023 an used Nvidia 960 GTX with 4GB VRAM. That card was utterly trash. Double display initialisation in windows which implies waiting 5 seconds longer to use the windows desktop at bootup. To make it clear, that was two years ago with my B550 Mainboard and ryzen 3 3100 most likely or maybe with the 5800X. I sold graphic card / cpu and swapped for trash parts before selling everything.

Subnautica had it's issues in whqd wiht the worst settings. Framerate was around 15-20 FPS. Stuff popping up slowly one after another.
I tested a few of my free epic games. Games are more demanding as I expected before that point.

Well, if you say, or claim people can play with a 960. Go on - have fun.

That encased game from epic game store looks like not demanding. That is a pain to play with the Ryzen 7600X cpu graphics with 16GiB from the DRAM only for the cpu graphics.
R0H1TWell then, don't cry about AMD's driver support, or lack thereof, since Nvidia cut everything pre-Sep (?) 2018 off now! So less than 7 years.
Well that is nvidia way. I had also to use legacy drivers for my nvidia 660m GTX in my ASUS G75VW notebook. Legacy nvidia drivers in gnu gentoo linux was a hassle
6 or 7 years is the usual nvidia way to declare "legacy graphic card".
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