Saturday, February 1st 2025
Edward Snowden Lashes Out at NVIDIA Over GeForce RTX 50 Pricing And Value
It's not every day that we witness a famous NSA whistleblower voice their disappointment over modern gaming hardware. Edward Snowden, who likely needs no introduction, did not bother to hold back his disapproval of NVIDIA's recently launched RTX 5090, RTX 5080, and RTX 5070 gaming GPUs. The reviews for the RTX 5090 have been mostly positive, although the same cannot be said for its affordable sibling, the RTX 5080. Snowden, voicing his thoughts on Twitter, claimed that NVIDIA is selling "F-tier value for S-tier prices".
Needless to say, there is no doubt that the RTX 5090's pricing is quite exorbitant, regardless of how anyone puts it. Snowden was particularly displeased with the amount of VRAM on offer, which is also hard to argue against. The RTX 5080 ships with "only" 16 GB of VRAM, whereas Snowden believes that it should have shipped with at least 24, or even 32 GB. He further adds that the RTX 5090, which ships with a whopping 32 GB of VRAM, should have been available with a 48 GB variant. As for the RTX 5070, the security consultant expressed desire for at least 16 GB of VRAM (instead of 12 GB).
But that is not all that Snowden had to say. He equated selling $1000+ GPUs with 16 GB VRAM to a "monopolistic crime against consumers," further accusing NVIDIA of "endless next-quarter" thinking. This is debatable, considering that NVIDIA is a publicly traded company, and whether they stay afloat does boil down to their quarterly results, whether we like it or not. There is no denying that NVIDIA is in desperate need of some true competition in the high-end segment, which appears to be the only way to get the Green Camp to price their hardware appropriately. AMD's UDNA GPUs are likely set to do just that in a year or two. The rest, of course, remains to be seen.
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Needless to say, there is no doubt that the RTX 5090's pricing is quite exorbitant, regardless of how anyone puts it. Snowden was particularly displeased with the amount of VRAM on offer, which is also hard to argue against. The RTX 5080 ships with "only" 16 GB of VRAM, whereas Snowden believes that it should have shipped with at least 24, or even 32 GB. He further adds that the RTX 5090, which ships with a whopping 32 GB of VRAM, should have been available with a 48 GB variant. As for the RTX 5070, the security consultant expressed desire for at least 16 GB of VRAM (instead of 12 GB).
133 Comments on Edward Snowden Lashes Out at NVIDIA Over GeForce RTX 50 Pricing And Value
So you should really ask yourself that question.
Oh and on that other part....idk how old you are but man.... there is a line between "Giving stuff away at a loss" and "ripping people off for ever growing profits"...
I would LOVE if Nvidia (and AMD and Intel for that matter ) was forced to disclose how much profit they make on every gpu sold per type.
It also reminds me of that disgusting corporate pitty us phrasing of "its no longer cost effective" oh really? it isnt? how so? how about you disclose exactly how much pure profit the game provided? and that is before you fire all your personnel to give the CEO another 50 million dollar bonus.....
Yeah I can see that.
So much for not judging what other people have in their tower though.
www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/rtx5000-series-owners-club.331946/
Here we go.
I do not care what you have in your tower.
If you love it so much go play a game and quit whining about everything in every thread.
Microsoft prepares DirectX to support neural rendering for AI-powered graphics — a key feature of the update will be Cooperative Vector support | Tom's Hardware
I played Half-Life 2 RTX with Nvidia neural rendering, and it looks damn fine
And if people didn't care what was in someone else's system there wouldn't be childish mocking over it while trying to turn this into a brand fight.
Anyway, the refusal to accept general criticisms is part of the problem, until some realize leather jacket man doesn't care about the gaming market and vote with their wallet, they will continue to rip everyone off lining up to buy the next card.
edit- thank you for the laugh react, very mature.
It's not as pejorative as it sounds, even movies are making use of tricks sometimes to optimize the render time. But Raster isn't the Top-end of CG, it can look very good, but there's drawbacks to it when it comes to accurately depicting the world. Otherwise, it would have been far more popular for rendering movies. The Witcher 4 trailer in UE5 looked really good, yet UE didn't make offline renderers obsolete.
How Do Mirrors in Video Games Work?
If I had to sum it up in the context of this thread, though: rasterisation is to rendering what upscalers are, whereas ray-tracing is rendering at native quality.
Raytracing reflections on things that don't need it.
Things that don't need to be soaking wet shiny is one annoyance I have with RT reflections.Oh yes thank god Nvidia is still giving the scraps to gamers while up selling every tier. I'd rather be stuck with some fair competition between AMD and Intel, than the monopoly,marketing lies and anti-consumer tactics from Nvidia.
images.nvidia.com/aem-dam/Solutions/geforce/blackwell/nvidia-rtx-blackwell-gpu-architecture.pdf
because they don’t care. They did it because they didn’t have anything else to do I’m sure.
Back onto ignore with you. I’ll check again next month to see if a clue has seeped into your brain.