Saturday, February 1st 2025

Edward Snowden Lashes Out at NVIDIA Over GeForce RTX 50 Pricing And Value

It's not every day that we witness a famous NSA whistleblower voice their disappointment over modern gaming hardware. Edward Snowden, who likely needs no introduction, did not bother to hold back his disapproval of NVIDIA's recently launched RTX 5090, RTX 5080, and RTX 5070 gaming GPUs. The reviews for the RTX 5090 have been mostly positive, although the same cannot be said for its affordable sibling, the RTX 5080. Snowden, voicing his thoughts on Twitter, claimed that NVIDIA is selling "F-tier value for S-tier prices".

Needless to say, there is no doubt that the RTX 5090's pricing is quite exorbitant, regardless of how anyone puts it. Snowden was particularly displeased with the amount of VRAM on offer, which is also hard to argue against. The RTX 5080 ships with "only" 16 GB of VRAM, whereas Snowden believes that it should have shipped with at least 24, or even 32 GB. He further adds that the RTX 5090, which ships with a whopping 32 GB of VRAM, should have been available with a 48 GB variant. As for the RTX 5070, the security consultant expressed desire for at least 16 GB of VRAM (instead of 12 GB).
But that is not all that Snowden had to say. He equated selling $1000+ GPUs with 16 GB VRAM to a "monopolistic crime against consumers," further accusing NVIDIA of "endless next-quarter" thinking. This is debatable, considering that NVIDIA is a publicly traded company, and whether they stay afloat does boil down to their quarterly results, whether we like it or not. There is no denying that NVIDIA is in desperate need of some true competition in the high-end segment, which appears to be the only way to get the Green Camp to price their hardware appropriately. AMD's UDNA GPUs are likely set to do just that in a year or two. The rest, of course, remains to be seen.
Source: @Snowden
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132 Comments on Edward Snowden Lashes Out at NVIDIA Over GeForce RTX 50 Pricing And Value

#126
Prima.Vera
Ruru24GB isn't possible with a 256-bit bus yet. I doubt that people would still want an overpriced 192-bit card like the 4070 Ti was.
The 5080 should have been a 320-bit card with 20GB of VRAM.
This garbage 5080 wouldn't have pass even for a 5070 a couple of years ago, both performance and spec wise.
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#127
R-T-B
I'm sure the mods love this post. My sympathies.
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#128
freeagent
R-T-BI'm sure the mods love this post. My sympathies.
The men in Green.. not an enviable position at times.
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#129
Steve3p0
That's why AMD is the future. Realistic pricing with common sense frame buffers. 16GB VRAM was common place highend in 2017 for VEGA and VOTLA.
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#130
dyonoctis
Hecate91It is true, look at their AI and datacenter profit share relative to gaming, although they've clouded the whole ratio by changing it to "AI & gaming".
And a competitor delivering the best they can within their R&D budget doesn't equal giving their customer the scraps, it isn't the same thing at all. I'm not even going to get into what the 9070XT should cost compared to the 5080, because you'll buy Nvidia anyway and so will everyone else even though Nvidia is withholding RTX 50 series supply to keep prices high.
10 Billion yearly revenue for a company only selling gaming hardware is pretty good, the only gaming companies doing better are selling software. And that's with Nvidia controlling 90% of the dGPU market. So I don't think that gaming hardware bought by gamers has the potential to move as much money as the data center. Comparing profits shares is probably not an ideal way to gauge the amount of effort that a company puts into a sector, market trends have too much of an influence. The datacenter market suddenly crashing wouldn't mean that Nvidia stopped trying, just that this market isn't as profitable as it used to be.
The Mac only represents 8% of Apple total revenue, yet, they still went with the trouble of making in-house high-performance and expensive SoC fabbed at TSMC for them
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#131
GoldenTiger
Jtuck9Show me an uninteresting time to live in
You think being a peasant farmhand in medieval Europe was interesting?
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#132
mkppo
Lmao at ample stock comments from peeps is thread. I saw a couple of posts, laughed, and realized people will defend their favourite company like it's their family business and straight up comment without knowing facts. GN did a decent coverage of general stock levels so please go and check it out. If you're whining about not wanting to see a thumbnail with someones face on it, then either don't comment or read about it elsewhere to not look like a fool.

Nvidia started mass production this month to get it out of the door asap. Most locations of Canada Computers, one of the largest retail outlets, got zero units of 5090. Zero.

Memory express always does a pre-order and they cancelled their pre-orders because according to them the stock levels are low on an unprecedented level and they can't fulfill their pre-orders and feel bad about holding people's money for that long. So yeah there goes my pre-order but whatever.

Then there's BB. They didn't even have units in store this time. Anyway, I'm not even sure why i'm explaining a widely known fact. I guess it's because I read some comments about 'substantial stock' and the level of ignorance was hard to ignore. Tbh posting stuff like that in a tech forum is borderline lying, you should know better.
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