DarkMatterThe shader clock on the 3870, as in R600, is the same as the core clock. In this case 775Mhz.
It would rock a card with such shading power though. It would be near 1,5 TFlops. :eek:



Nope, it won't. Different SP, TMU and ROP quantity. It's a different architecture. Better said it's a different arrangement of the same architecture, but still different. It would work if the difference was only in clock speeds.

trt740Okay here it is the 3870 777 mghz no wonder it's slower than the 8800 series theirs run at 1350 to 1650 depending on the card. Also look how much bigger the texture fillrate is for the 8800 gt wow!!!!!

DarkMatterAgreed. 100% ;)



What did you want to say there? It's obviously some kind of typo. You mixed two different sentences in one, like "shader clock being moved from 740 to XXX and memory from 2000 to 2400" or something...

zekrahminatorNo no, clock speeds are faster than the 8800Ultra, that doesn't mean that there are less shaders ;).
Saying that you should buy an 8800GTS because of higher clock speeds than an 8800Ultra is like saying you should buy a 3.6GHz P4 because it's faster than the 2.8GHz A64 FX-59 :p.

Tatty_OneIMO.....Nope, firstly because we dont yet know how well these will overclock, yes they have a few stream processors more and of course they will be quicker at stock but if they say only hit 740mhz on an overclock and with a very small BIOS mod the 8800GT will hit 780Mhz then the performance difference will prob be fairly small for upto $100 difference in price (once prices settle down).