slightly heigher than 2 8800gt's in sli?

LoL! This card REALLY sucks... nothing special! I want something new and revolutionary. Come on nVidia!

I wanna wait and see... what is with this 9800 moniker? are they afraid these wont sell if they name them 8800's or 8900's? Because i can guarantee them that these wont sell either way if the drivers are not perfect and if it doesnt absolutely destroy the 3870 X2. Oh well wait and see... looks pretty gnarly tho.. 2 8800GT's in SLI is nothing to shake a stick at.

I want to know more about audio on this card. The pics I've seen include an optical audio out port. Does this mean it will have audio-processing on board? Do you hook it up to another sound chip? I'm never interested about new, super-duper perforamce. It's things that change the overall design of a PC that interest me.

seems reasonable since the 3870x2 is sli 3870 and 3870 are priced aroung 8800gt's...

I think that it would be smarter to wait for Quad Crossfire drivers and get dual 3870 x2's.
It sounds like Nvidia is getting worried about loosing profits to the HD3000 series ATI cards.
Sounds like they are rushing the 9800 to market without taking their time in R&D.

If the 9800 GX2 is only "slightly" faster than 2 8800 GT's in SLI then that makes it about equivalent to 2 regular 3870's with GDDR4 in Crossfire, or mabie 1 3870 x2. I would rather have 2 regular 3870's in Crossfire because the higher memory bandwidth of GDDR4 memory and the 512 bit (2x 256 bit) interface.
I bet you anything Nvidia will want somewhere in the neighborhood of $500-$700 for the 9800GX2. This is a total waste of money in the performance vs. price arena.

jbizzlerI want to know more about audio on this card. The pics I've seen include an optical audio out port. Does this mean it will have audio-processing on board? Do you hook it up to another sound chip? I'm never interested about new, super-duper perforamce. It's things that change the overall design of a PC that interest me.

that's half the reason i got a GT in the first place. i was disappointed to find out audio never made it on the card. WTF nvidia? it's not that hard.

i still think the GX2 is gonna be a piece of crap. the gpu's face each other and don't allow for any type of cooling upgrade other than strapping a fan to the card to keep it from melting inside your computer. they are even putting a sticker on the card to warn people not to touch the card when you machine is on because it will burn the S*** out of you. what does that say about temperatures?

in all reality... nvidia is just chasing ATI in the quad gpu war

I had a 9800.

It was a good card, not nearly as good as this 9800.

ATi will always have the best 9800.

ati lead nvidia follow.. green will always win the power race but at the expense of heat..

the original 8800gt only came into being because of the planned 3870.. the new green x 2 is only there because of the 3870 x 2..

long live ati..

trog

all of you are pissing about this card not being revolutionary would any of you complain if you got one for free cause i sure as hell wouldn't! If NV finally gets its head out of its ass maybe this card will be priced around the 3870X2 and we will see a real performance competition between green and red

im in no way a fanboy for either team. i've had almost every 8series nvidia card to date in quantity. im currently using the ATI X2's and i will say they are my first 2 ati cards ever.

does anyone other than TROG see the heat problem with the GX2? nvidia is pretty much telling people "hey, the gx2 will overheat on you. get one now."

i will be getting a 9800gtx later this year... it should be a WAY better card.

fitseries3im in no way a fanboy for either team. i've had almost every 8series nvidia card to date in quantity. im currently using the ATI X2's and i will say they are my first 2 ati cards ever.

does anyone other than TROG see the heat problem with the GX2? nvidia is pretty much telling people "hey, the gx2 will overheat on you. get one now."

i will be getting a 9800gtx later this year... it should be a WAY better card.

want to give me you 3870X2s when you get a 9800GTX :roll:


and as with the old 7900GX2 it will be one hot running card im sure!


personally i want to see them throw 2+ 9600GT cores on one PCB (like the 3870X2) and sell that for 6-way sli

no way. not gonna get rid of the x2's

russianboyI had a 9800.

It was a good card, not nearly as good as this 9800.

ATi will always have the best 9800.

What the heck are you talking about :wtf:


ATi's 9800 sucks so much lollipops. It can't play pong without blowing up. I have it.

MikeJengWhat the heck are you talking about :wtf:


ATi's 9800 sucks so much lollipops. It can't play pong without blowing up. I have it.

wth you talking about, I have a 9800Xt and can play BF2 no problem, not bad for and old card :toast:

substance90LoL! This card REALLY sucks... nothing special! I want something new and revolutionary. Come on nVidia!

+9000

SLIGHTLY more powerfull than TWO of last gens cards? Wtf is this? I thought it was suppost to be some killer next gen card..

This is nvidias answer to the hd3870. The true next gem card will follow after. Tbh if this turns out faster than 2 8800gt in sli then that would make it quite alot faster than the ati card.

Btw this is my first post on my iPod touch so sorry about the grammar/spelling

The strange thing here is that the GX2 is actually two 8800GTS's in one card so I find it very strange that it should only perform around the same level as two GT's in SLi? we will have to wait and see, I am seeing 3870x2's hit over 21,500 points in 3D Mark 2006 with the right rig to back it up, NVidia at CeBit claimed I beleive that the GX2 was at least 20% faster...........either they are lying based on this or my maths has gone bad :eek:

trog100ati lead nvidia follow.. green will always win the power race but at the expense of heat..

the original 8800gt only came into being because of the planned 3870.. the new green x 2 is only there because of the 3870 x 2..

long live ati..

trog

Lol, damn my memory must be bad, and there was me thinking that NVidia had DX10 cards on the market a full 6 months before ATi......I must have got it wrong and it's clearly the other way round......fook I am gettin old :eek:

atctually, though the 2900 came out 6 months after the 8800 series, it had been in development much longer than the 8800 had. you've got to remember that the 2900 was severly crippled in it's final stages of development by the aquisition of ati by amd. had that not taken place, the card would have launched much closer to date.

between the two there no real saying somebody follows the other, it seems more of a release date thing to me.
first to shader 1.0 between the two of them ati
shader 2.0 also ati
3.0 nvidia
4.0 nvidia

looks even so far right?

first to 4 pixel pipelines ati
8 ati
16 nvidia
24 nvidia

hmm even again
now lets talk shaders
first to impliment shader architecture ati
16 shaders ati
48 shaders ati
128 nvidia
this is where the trend was priro to the 2900's release, it's kinda funny as ati started the shader architecture, got game devs on board and then abadoned it in favor of a stream processor setup. (which while better on paper doesn't seem to perform to potential in real gaming)

so then there's
the whole stream processor thing, yeah ati

so since the stream processor is a flop, it cancels out with one of the shader accomplishments and makes it a level field. (though truly the nvidia fx sereis should also be a demotion)

seems to me nobody's leading anyone else. each company tries new things with the technology they have, since many game devs were heading toward a shader architeture nvidia decided it was the way to go, ati decided 64 was enough and put 5 stream processors per shader instead. to each his own.

the only thing that's clear is that ati experimented and lost on this opne, we'll se if nvidia's experiement with the 9800 gx2 will be the same.

Tatty_OneLol, damn my memory must be bad, and there was me thinking that NVidia had DX10 cards on the market a full 6 months before ATi......I must have got it wrong and it's clearly the other way round......fook I am gettin old :eek:

LOL It was a figment of your imagination, ATI's been competitive this whole time. The 2900's came out in xmas 06 and were on par with the 8800's.:p

Anyway, not sure how the GX2 is going to pan out. Will probably beat the 3870x2 maybe 5-10%, but at the cost of heat and, of course, at a price premium. My .02, but we'll see.

Hawk1LOL It was a figment of your imagination, ATI's been competitive this whole time. The 2900's came out in xmas 06 and were on par with the 8800's.:p

Anyway, not sure how the GX2 is going to pan out. Will probably beat the 3870x2 maybe 5-10%, but at the cost of heat and, of course, at a price premium. My .02, but we'll see.

Cannot understand everyones issue with heat/power draw, if everyone was really that concerned (before the card has actually arrived with whatever cooler partners put on them)....then noone would have bought the 2900XT :D

Tatty_OneCannot understand everyones issue with heat/power draw, if everyone was really that concerned (before the card has actually arrived with whatever cooler partners put on them)....then noone would have bought the 2900XT :D

Nah, it's usually just the fanboys (myself inc.) trying to draw out the shortcomings.:D

People who buy these types of cards usually have no issues with power consumption, as they probably already have a 1200w PSU and are itching to get them for Quad/Six SLI, as long as they are the "top dog" card at the moment. I'm sure some companies/AIB partners will figure out a way (if necessary) to reduce heat/watercool these things.

And the speculation mounts:)

Hawk1Nah, it's usually just the fanboys (myself inc.) trying to draw out the shortcomings.:D

People who buy these types of cards usually have no issues with power consumption, as they probably already have a 1200w PSU and are itching to get them for Quad/Six SLI, as long as they are the "top dog" card at the moment. I'm sure some companies/AIB partners will figure out a way (if necessary) to reduce heat/watercool these things.

And the speculation mounts:)

Very true :D

lol, what really makes me el o l is Nvidia and ATi always do this.

I believe most of the time we make more speculation than anything to be left in disappointment
with a new card hitting the market that's equal in performance or slightly higher or the price is just slightly lower.

What it all boils down to in the end, is we either are going on the Nvidia or ATi bandwagon, since neither companies ever release something significantly faster that doesn't take the next company more than 2-3months to release something equal or slightly faster...

I hope I made sense..