tkpenaltyIntel can check if the CPU has been OC'ed atm, so...

No they can't. That was an unsubstantiated rumor. Just ask any number of the people that sent previously OCed chips in for RMA.

Theo over at Tom's used to write for the Inq, so don't read too much into this.
Yes, the Bloomfield core was always going to be an overclocking part and I don't anyone has ever said anything but this.
However, the desktop parts aren't going to be very overclocking friendly due to the clock speed check between the CPU and chipset and this is something that the motherboard manufacturers have confirmed, but maybe not to Theo.
Time will tell, but as the other CPU's won't launch until some time next year, it's hard to predict if Intel will make some final changes before they launch.
The Bloomfield system at Computex was working fine and Intel let people play Assasins Creed on it which was running very smooth on what is still a very early platform.

tkpenaltyIts been announced before... The new CPUs/chipsets wont have an FSB wall anymore! Woot cakes for all! :).

Intel stated the obvious though... warranty gone if you OC. Wasn't that always the case? Intel can check if the CPU has been OC'ed atm, so...

no but they will have something like AMD's HT it will go in increments of 133mhz and clock up just like AMD's chips do

hmm Intel first told they won't allow OC. Now they say they will allow OC. I am thinking 'BUGGY' memory controller:eek:

Bloomfield is 4 cores and 8 threads, not 8 cores and 16 threads. This has been covered in many articles on the net, thought the OP should know.

www.dvhardware.net/article27173.html

There will be 8 core Nehelams but they aren't Bloomfield.

Is Intel offering us any rebates?:laugh:

i can see intel only putting out overclocking parts in the form of EE chips that you pay to much for compared to normal chips(unlike BE chips that prices are pretty reasonable)

we shal see, could very well be that the new chips dont overclock neerly as well as past versions, at least till a few revisions have come out that is.

tkpenaltyIts been announced before... The new CPUs/chipsets wont have an FSB wall anymore! Woot cakes for all! :).

Intel stated the obvious though... warranty gone if you OC. Wasn't that always the case? Intel can check if the CPU has been OC'ed atm, so...

woot cakes indeed... that takes another thing out of the equation when looking at an unstable o/c and tying to get it stable again.

OzzmanFloyd120Ha, I told myself I wouldn't OC my 9550. That lasted about a week.

Lol I said that as well when I got my E4300 like some year ago. Imagine if I was still running at 1.8Ghz...... I'd have had to upgrade (aka spend $$$ on another proc) long long time ago. But getting this lil chap to run at 3.0 Ghz is a different story. That's what oc'ing consists of! :)

I'm just hoping the Bloomfield won't be prohibitively expensive for me... :(

my advice as with any new chip/architecture is WAIT FOR IT TO MATURE, if you grab it the day it hits, you get to deal with all the little problems, like phenom b2 owners, vs those that waited for b3.

i know its hard, but WAIT, im acctualy holding out for the 45nm k10's, wana see how the dual and tri core chips come along with the die shrink :)

We all also have to remember that in terms of overclocking thats once again something that a small minority of people do. So why should intel even bother putting in the effort to stop that 1% from doing it in the first place. Also have to remember that companies like alienware sell overclocked cpu's so it would be hurting some of their partners as well. Also if intel caters to that 1% of the population theres a good chance they will recommend their chips to their friends. ;)

Intel as well as AMD actually rely on folks like us to OC and push their chips as far as possible. They can see from our very forums what their own chips are capable of without shouldering the risk. It's about time the OEM's have come around! It means we're becoming a slice of the pie that cannot or should not be ignored and shunned anymore....:cool:

theres going to be more than one socket, remember. the high end socket will support OC'ing, the lower end socket (cough dells cough) wont.

First of all, while I think waiting past launch is not a bad idea in terms of those waiting for best bang for your buck, on the other hand it's not like early adopters are going to be screwed. If I had kept my launch E6600, still overclocked, I wouldn't be far behind the curve.

Those who go for an early Nehalem will no doubt see much cheaper chips down the road that eclipse their early chips in performance, but that will be true even if you wait 2, 6, or 12 months. Early adopters should know what they're getting into - you can use ebay to minimize your losses and keep current. The biggest hit is (IMHO) probably from buying the 'Extreme' chips, but if money is no object, I say why not - still cheaper than other hobbies like cars and high end audio / HT.

Based on recent slides of the launch chips, looks like the there are two different QPI clock speeds, so if this is a fixed multiplier system, wouldn't be surprised if overclocking comes in the form of QPI overclocks. Hopefully early 3rd party boards support locking down the PCIe bus and memory clock speeds independently.