Tuesday, September 9th 2008

AMD to Launch Interim AM2+ 45nm Phenom X4

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btarunr
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AMD plans to bring about a gradual transition with its desktop quad-core Phenom chips. Contradicting roadmap slides, Taiwanese industry observer DigiTimes has come up with fresh rumours that AMD could release a pair of AM2+ exclusive Deneb 45nm quad-core processors towards the end of this year. Their clock-speeds could range between 2.60 to 3.00 GHz and TDP ratings at 125W. Meanwhile AM3 designs would surface for manufacturing of both the processors and supportive motherboards that feature DDR3 memory support. It is expected that my May thru June next year, there will be enough AM3 based products in the market for AMD to stop producing any more of these "AM2+ only" Deneb chips. Earlier projections based on company slides showed the two chips coming up in January.
Source: DigiTimes

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27 Comments on AMD to Launch Interim AM2+ 45nm Phenom X4

#1
Morgoth
Fueled by Sapphire
i hope next generation amd cpu's can compete highend core 2 and nehalem
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#2
WarEagleAU
Bird of Prey
I hope they keep compatibility as well like they said they were. Nice to see some earlier releases of these chips. Should I wait for these or get me a 9950 now....choices, choices...
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#3
jbunch07
I dont think im going to upgrade my 9850 till the FX Phenoms come out.
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#4
Polarman
Same here.

The Phenom FX will be replacing my aging FX.
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#5
suraswami
Woo hoo, thats good news. I hope ECS releases a bios update for these bad boys.
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#6
jbunch07
PolarmanSame here.

The Phenom FX will be replacing my aging FX.
Wow those things are rare. ^
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#7
suraswami
hey bta, see if you can dig some info on the prices. I hope the 2.6 is priced right, so I can afford and do some OCing.
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#8
HTC
PolarmanSame here.

The Phenom FX will be replacing my aging FX.
It will be interesting to see what kind of stomping these Deneb chips will produce on the current quad FXs.

Imagine ...

if a deneb @ 2.6 GHz could do what the 4850 did to the 3850 in terms of performance increase ...
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#9
KBD
Morgothi hope next generation amd cpu's can compete highend core 2 and nehalem
They should be able to be more competitive with Core 2 but not nehalem. It's gonna depend on how well they overclock, if they can be overclocked from their stock frequencies of 2.6-3.0GHz to 3.6-3.8Ghz with the help of the new SB750 then Core 2 will face some stiff competition from AMD. They won't be able to take on Nehalem, but with Nehalem hardware priced at a premium they will offer an alternative to inexpensive Core 2 chips and will give AMD some breathing room until they release AM3 with DDR3 support.

On side note, AMD stock is continuing to drop again.
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#10
devguy
So, will you be able to put AM3 chips into an AM2+ motherboard (perhaps with a BIOS update) and use DDR2? That is what I believe AMD was alluding to. However, if this turns out to be another s939 vs AM2 issue, and I bought this AM2+ motherboard for only AM2+/AM2 processors, my next build may be with Intel...
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#11
candle_86
we have no idea how well deneb will actully preform
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#12
PCpraiser100
candle_86we have no idea how well deneb will actully preform
My AMD friend gave me a couple of benches of the Deneb in action, damn thing has a gift in multi-core applications. As for overclocking, the CPU has a very big advantage over the other Phenoms as you can OC the fastest sibling near 4GHz if you got the cooler for it (no liquid cooling needed) but this might change overtime if HT 3.1 shows up. BTW, I can't show you the benches as my friend said he could get in trouble.
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#14
PP Mguire
My AMD friend gave me a couple of benches of the Deneb in action, damn thing has a gift in multi-core applications. As for overclocking, the CPU has a very big advantage over the other Phenoms as you can OC the fastest sibling near 4GHz if you got the cooler for it (no liquid cooling needed) but this might change overtime if HT 3.1 shows up. BTW, I can't show you the benches as my friend said he could get in trouble.
On another forum i have a good quote im known for.
So, will you be able to put AM3 chips into an AM2+ motherboard (perhaps with a BIOS update) and use DDR2?
Taiwanese industry observer DigiTimes has come up with fresh rumours that AMD could release a pair of AM2+ exclusive Deneb 45nm quad-core processors towards the end of this year


Ill prolly jump on the Deneb FX bandwagon.
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#15
Wile E
Power User
suraswamiWoo hoo, thats good news. I hope ECS releases a bios update for these bad boys.
Don't hold your breath. ECS has the worst BIOS coders I've seen. lol.
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#16
PP Mguire
Don't hold your breath. ECS has the worst BIOS coders I've seen. lol.
qfmft
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#17
PCpraiser100
PP MguireOn another forum i have a good quote im known for.




Ill prolly jump on the Deneb FX bandwagon.
Can't show benches so I hope people are trusting me. Mguire if you are too curious you have to be the judge once Deneb is released.
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#18
suraswami
Wile EDon't hold your breath. ECS has the worst BIOS coders I've seen. lol.
LOL, they have the largest selection of compatible cpus for any particular board. Only reason this might not be supported is because its a 125w cpus. They don't officially support it but 9850 still works perfect.
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#19
candle_86
ECS doesnt enable Phenom support on any of there AM2 boards, just there AM2+ boards though, thats the issue
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#20
PP Mguire
Mguire if you are too curious you have to be the judge once Deneb is released.
Ill be purchasing an FX no matter what benches say ;)
LOL, they have the largest selection of compatible cpus for any particular board.
Orly? Try putting a Phenom in MY ECS board and see if it works. I bet you 100 bucks it dosent.
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#21
Hayder_Master
Morgothi hope next generation amd cpu's can compete highend core 2 and nehalem
the new amd phenom fx can give answers , and not only compete with core 2 even quad , and it will release nearly
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#22
Hayder_Master
PCpraiser100My AMD friend gave me a couple of benches of the Deneb in action, damn thing has a gift in multi-core applications. As for overclocking, the CPU has a very big advantage over the other Phenoms as you can OC the fastest sibling near 4GHz if you got the cooler for it (no liquid cooling needed) but this might change overtime if HT 3.1 shows up. BTW, I can't show you the benches as my friend said he could get in trouble.
+1 , 20x-24x multiplier
candle_86ECS doesnt enable Phenom support on any of there AM2 boards, just there AM2+ boards though, thats the issue
any amd 790fx and 790gx can support new phenom fx

im just want to see in q1 2009 new amd 45nm with ddr3 2000 chipset
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#23
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
Unfortunately there really isnt any 790FX boards with a 750 Southbridge.
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#25
KBD
PCpraiser100My AMD friend gave me a couple of benches of the Deneb in action, damn thing has a gift in multi-core applications. As for overclocking, the CPU has a very big advantage over the other Phenoms as you can OC the fastest sibling near 4GHz if you got the cooler for it (no liquid cooling needed) but this might change overtime if HT 3.1 shows up. BTW, I can't show you the benches as my friend said he could get in trouble.
If its true that is indeed good news. What do mean it will change with HT 3.1? I hope you mean change for the better i.e. highrer overclocks?
eidairaman1Unfortunately there really isnt any 790FX boards with a 750 Southbridge.
Yes there are. These Asus & Foxconn boards on newegg:

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186149
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131339

And there will be more to come.
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