csendesmarkThis new is nonsens!
AMD is always bringing it's products in time! :) (at least in the past few years)

I think you forgot about the HD2900 which was much more late(and underperforming) than Fermi :p

This has been on the Fudzilla website since Friday; this is next in the story: fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20770-cayman-reportedly-plagued-by-manufacturing-issues

in one of the pictures it looks like the card was involved in a car accident

meirb111in one of the pictures it looks like the card was involved in a car accident

just plastic to protect a black surface :P

killerbeehmmm.... Q32010 : 7,67m AMD discrete desktop vga (11% incr) vs 11m NV discrete desktop vga (28% incr)... 42% AMD vs 58% NV...

"ATI are smacking nvidia around"

full market share Q32010, inc. discrete mobil vga and igp 50,3% AMD vs 49,6% NV...

store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
check the DX11 section
AMD ownz 66+% :)

hayder.masterok any final details about it
i remember this
850 core , 1600 memory , 256 bit , 32 rops

AMD has improve a lot on their drivers and hardware products lately, such as Barts Pro and XT..Plus it support 3D stereoscopic too...Hope they will introduce new hardware physics processing units..I know this sound impossible~ :toast::respect:AMD

meirb111in one of the pictures it looks like the card was involved in a car accident

If that's true, I'm sorry for the other car, it must be a wreck! :laugh:

Bloody software is holding it back? Actually, I have no problem for -- just this once -- AMD taking a little more time to make sure it's working right first, judging from the usual state of their software.

AMD's OpenCL framework (formerly ATI Stream) is STILL completely shit though. I wish they would concentrate on that more as stream processing has now become NVIDIA's cashcow in the developer's segment (and this is big). CUDA is the only reason why I have a GTX 460 768MB on my 3rd PCI-E slot.

They didn't even update their SDK since August. :P

God damn, it looks to be even longer than the 5870... I hope the launch isn't delayed too much.

CheeseballAMD's OpenCL framework (formerly ATI Stream) is STILL completely shit though. I wish they would concentrate on that more as stream processing has now become NVIDIA's cashcow in the developer's segment (and this is big). CUDA is the only reason why I have a GTX 460 768MB on my 3rd PCI-E slot.

They didn't even update their SDK since August. :P

OpenCL is not only "AMD"
its OPEN ;)

csendesmarkOpenCL is not only "AMD"
its OPEN ;)

I mean it's implementation (SDK, compiler, support, etc.) is still much to be desired.

calebWith the red team you're always a beta tester :)

How would you know other than drinking the green kool aid?

Your using the equivalency of a wal-mart computer, at 1280X1024 resolution. I have no issues with my 5870, I even went into the registry and xml files to unlock all the options possible. Makes games look amazing, and the only games I have issues with are the ones that just have issues for both the red and green team.


So, in your professional Wal-Mart opinion, I am a beta tester for AMD/ATI? :roll:


Just because AMD/ATI moves on with technology and the newest drivers don't give your three generation old card a 20% performance boost you get pissy? Amazing.

Considering the "fun" I have with Cypress-based cards, and Eyefinity's corrupt cursor(still present in 6-series cards, too), I'd say very much so that consumers are placed in the role of "beta tester".

You did reg hacks? :laugh: Perfect example of what I mean.

Eyefinity should NOT have been released. BETA tech, all teh way...heck, even on the 6-series, most hardware parts needed for Eyefinity don't even exist today. I am refering, of course, to the DP 1.2 multi-stream boxes, and the daisy-chainable monitors.

Someone's been drinking the red Koolaid, I'm afraid. Obviously, because if you check the Eyefinity thread here, and other other forums...oh, look...tonnes of problems.:shadedshu

Everyone here has cursor corruption...


Eyefinity still hasn't left beta, but they hype it to no end. Unless, of course, you want to call a card that artifacts on desktop a properly working part...


IN case you missed it ALL AMD EYEFINITY-supporting CARDS RUNNING DUAL OR MORE MONITORS ARTIFACT WHILE ON DESKTOP, IF USING A DISPLAYPORT CONNECTION.

I could tell you the real reason why these cards are delayed...I've been saying that they would be for over a month now...but fanboys will be fanboys, and clearly, I'm not one of those any longer, so I am unsure whether my fanboy language will translate clearly now.

Well, perhaps AMD believes the 580's will NOT bve readily available at 'launch' and feel it is justifiable to tweak things.
Either way, I'll be hoping both camps cards come out in synchronicity so we can gauge against each other.

But if the Cayman slips to 2011, this will be hugely embarassing having been touted as super dooper reliable with the 5 series.

The 580 won't steal the show for Nvidia though. It's purely an e-peen card and i guess going to be limited.

I'm still waiting for the SOC 480 from Gigabyte. That card could be my single card quiet(ish) dream.

I think AMd has been sniffing glue for months now.

AMD's own, David Hoff:

A one year cadence is about the best you're ever going to see on a new architecture," he continued. "We've got another unbelievable launch, with a wide range of products. That's about the best we could dream of.

Read more: www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/graphics-cards/amd-to-release-next-gen-graphics-pre-christmas-717388?src=rss&attr=newsall#ixzz14i0JQ84n


Hmmm...2 cards is a "wide range of products"?:eek:



WHUT!?!

:rolleyes:


:shadedshu



So saw it here, boys. This is the best AMD could dream of...."delayed" cards.

:roll:

they probably just want to launch the 6950, 6970 and 6990 together.

Reg hacks. Yes. I changed a "0" to a 1""


I am a leet haxor by changing some numbers in the windows registry. For options that are beta, or may have compatibility issues with other driver features.


I choose to enable parts of software in the driver pack that aren't meant to be. Nvidia does the same, otherwise why would we have software that allows you to enable it from third partys? Ahhh, right. Nvidia does no wrong. You will get their options like Physx supported on 13 games with GPU acceleration, when it has been proven that a modern CPU will outperform their GPU implementation when the software is written on a platform that isn't made for a 486DX.


How is Nvidia or ATI supposed to test every single CPU/MOBO/GPU/RAM/OS/SOFTWARE combination? Yet every user with a issue immediately blames them for issues.


If you don't like their product, don't buy it.

KainXSthey probably just want to launch the 6950, 6970 and 6990 together.

Just FYI, my link is from September 17th, a short time before the launch.


ALso note that shortly after this, is when my whole attitude, about 4-D shaders, and everything else AMD, changed. I guess I know something no other "journalist" in tech knows...:laugh:..or they've been paid to shut up...

SteevoReg hacks. Yes. I changed a "0" to a 1""


I am a leet haxor by changing some numbers in the windows registry. For options that are beta, or may have compatibility issues with other driver features.

Yeah, you did something clearly AMD could not. Unless, of course, you are lying, and things are NOT working just fine for you...because if they really worked fine, why wouldn't AMD enable it themselves?

:shadedshu


Do you need some help getting those feet out of your mouth?

Also, I might have some inside info you do not. Try something...ask AMD what they used for thier Eyefinity demos, and how they avoided the cursor corruption. The answer may suprise you...even more so considering they seem to have forgotten to let Eyefinity users know how to avoid the problem.

SteevoReg hacks. Yes. I changed a "0" to a 1""


I am a leet haxor by changing some numbers in the windows registry. For options that are beta, or may have compatibility issues with other driver features.


I choose to enable parts of software in the driver pack that aren't meant to be. Nvidia does the same, otherwise why would we have software that allows you to enable it from third partys? Ahhh, right. Nvidia does no wrong. You will get their options like Physx supported on 13 games with GPU acceleration, when it has been proven that a modern CPU will outperform their GPU implementation when the software is written on a platform that isn't made for a 486DX.


How is Nvidia or ATI supposed to test every single CPU/MOBO/GPU/RAM/OS/SOFTWARE combination? Yet every user with a issue immediately blames them for issues.


If you don't like their product, don't buy it.

You Mad? I get it that your a fanboi,just clean the sand out of your vag and go on with life its a video card.

Cargo container !

That thing looks like a cargo container.I wouldn't be able to afford it any way.
That's why I just bought the 6870. That should keep me in the
loop for at least another year : )

It's not as big as some of you may think.

HD 5870

HD6970

1/2 inch longer PCB. 5870's pcb stops short of the end of the cooler shroud, 6970 goes right to the end. The extra plastic on the end of 5870 was intentional so OEMs could build cases and such in which these card fit. ;) Welcome to the new size of high-end single-gpu VGAs.

There's an awful lot of nastiness kicking in here.

It's evident there are people taking sides and that's human nature - that's why the world sucks. So cant' we leave it out of a freaking tech forum. We're all geek (to some power or other).

On track - The delay is a rumour until AMD says "Oops., we're late guys!"

Can people stop being nasty? It's a f*cking expensive toy that lets you play games FFS! Or a Folding tool that lets you think you're saving the world.

My two cents - AMD and Nvidia have both become tits this past year.

They already said "Ooops" during the 6870/6850 launch. Just none but me heard them. :laugh:

And I agree, both have failed hard, but really, It's not thier fault, except when they lie to cover up the problems. Honesty wins all, with me. They can make mistakes, that's no big deal...it's the lying about it that gets me going.