No way it can Fix the falsified,Gimped 970 card. that card is screwed.

Maybe this driver will help the 970 evolve and fix the vram issue. :laugh: :roll:

Oh I crack myself up :rolleyes:

harry90No way it can Fix the falsified,Gimped 970 card. that card is screwed.

not really, people will still buy it.

MxPhenom 216not really, people will still buy it.

that says nothing about the state of the card so in no way is a rebuttal to the statement you are replying to.

harry90No way it can Fix the falsified,Gimped 970 card. that card is screwed.

Sure it can. It forces drivers to do everything not to use that extra half a gig of VRAM...

harry90No way it can Fix the falsified,Gimped 970 card. that card is screwed.

Correction to the law of HumanSmoke:

Every thread now should contain at least 10% about the GTX970 VRAM "issue" + 10% about Titan.

Nvidia's marketing team is SO good. I wonder if they do it on purpose, but one way or another NV always manages to be the most discussed topic on every tech forum out there.

Good stuff, excellent support as always from the big green meanies.

Any improvements for the 7xx series, or only for 8xx 9xx series from now on?? aka AMD style ;)

manofthemMaybe this driver will help the 970 evolve and fix the vram issue. :laugh: :roll:

Oh I crack myself up :rolleyes:

What's really funny is even with that "defect" it's still better than the ATI equivalent..
Poor ATI..
Can't even make a better card than Nvidias borked card..

D007What's really funny is even with that "defect" it's still better than the ATI equivalent..
Poor ATI..
Can't even make a better card than Nvidias borked card..

Wow, I can feel the brand loyalism from here. Feels awkward...

cokkerWow, I can feel the brand loyalism from here. Feels awkward...

I've bought ATI and Nvidia. I have no brand loyalty what so ever. Typical fan boy comment.
I guess I hurt your ATI feelings?

Truth hurts I suppose.
ATI can't even make a better card than Nvidia borked card..lol..
Is what it is and I'm sure you know it.
If you don't, look at the statistics..

MxPhenom 216not really, people will still buy it.

Because it's still better than the ATI equivalent.

harry90No way it can Fix the falsified,Gimped 970 card. that card is screwed.

Because everyone is playing games that require 4 gigs?
What a ridiculous comment..
I play at 4k res, maximum settings, in top end games and I still don't touch 4 gigs.

Prima.VeraAny improvements for the 7xx series, or only for 8xx 9xx series from now on?? aka AMD style ;)

i think not... nvidia's GTX 7XX series owners are forgotten....
:cry:

And the story continues... so when will nvidia be forced to change all the packaging saying 3.5Gb instead of 4? :D

D007What's really funny is even with that "defect" it's still better than the ATI equivalent..
Poor ATI..
Can't even make a better card than Nvidias borked card..

On the other hand, ATI (currently AMD) used to make great videocards (and by the way is still making good ones), e.g. ATI's Radeon 9700Pro and 9800Pro/XT beat the Geforce FX 5800/5900 series hands down :rockout:(especially in Half Life 2, if I remembered it correctly).

Of course, I am unhappy that Nvidia falsifies/hide the true specs of the GTX 970, and thus lower the resale value of the videocard as many see this as a big defect. On the other hand, a GTX 970 with full memory bandwith and the full 4 GB memory would be more expensive, i.e. closer to the price point of a GTX 980. Wish the "limitation" of the GTX 970 is just software based, so you can unlocked the card to its full potential. I still remember that I could unlock my Geforce 6800 vanilla to a Geforce 6800GT (in terms of shaders and clocks), good old times:D!

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These performance improvements are for 347.52 WHQL, compared to its immediate predecessor, the 347.25 WHQL, and isn't general to the R347 drivers.

:laugh: :roll:

ZoneDymothat says nothing about the state of the card so in no way is a rebuttal to the statement you are replying to.

The success of a card is ultimately determined by how well it sells (at least to the maker) and it will still sell well regardless. The 970 is a gimped card, the 780 is a gimped card, the 670 was a gimped card, etc. They are all gimped in their own ways. The 970 more gimped it seems, but still performs well regardless.

pechei think not... nvidia's GTX 7XX series owners are forgotten....
:cry:

@Prima.Vera Kepler has already had most if not all the optimizations for that architecture they could do. And now Maxwell is their full time baby, so makes far more sense to optimize that architecture now.

Lots of GPUs have different limitations. GTX 660 and 660Ti got half the performance for half the memory bank (1GB fast, 1 GB half speed), GTX Titan Black compared to GTX 780Ti has half the average bandwidth to each memory chip if all 6 GB are used, since it has twice the amount of memory chips on the same bus. In theory Nvidia did a good choice by offering 3.5 GB full speed + 512 MB low speed on GTX 970, but what they failed was finetuning the internal memory reallocation algorithm. When they get it all fixed no gamer will notice the speed difference, since no frame rendering will require all 4 GB in a single frame.

MxPhenom 216The success of a card is ultimately determined by how well it sells (at least to the maker) and it will still sell well regardless. The 970 is a gimped card, the 780 is a gimped card, the 670 was a gimped card, etc. They are all gimped in their own ways. The 970 more gimped it seems, but still performs well regardless.



@Prima.Vera Kepler has already had most if not all the optimizations for that architecture they could do. And now Maxwell is their full time baby, so makes far more sense to optimize that architecture now.

Seems Legit for me...!

efikkanLots of GPUs have different limitations. GTX 660 and 660Ti got half the performance for half the memory bank (1GB fast, 1 GB half speed), GTX Titan Black compared to GTX 780Ti has half the average bandwidth to each memory chip if all 6 GB are used, since it has twice the amount of memory chips on the same bus. In theory Nvidia did a good choice by offering 3.5 GB full speed + 512 MB low speed on GTX 970, but what they failed was finetuning the internal memory reallocation algorithm. When they get it all fixed no gamer will notice the speed difference, since no frame rendering will require all 4 GB in a single frame.

Agreed!

D007What's really funny is even with that "defect" it's still better than the ATI equivalent..
Poor ATI..
Can't even make a better card than Nvidias borked card..

But the 970 did not come out till around a year or so later so WTF. So yes it should be better but it should have 4GB usable too.

I will agree again that the 970 is a dam good card how ever in my case some of my games go over that 3.5GB.

Another bumper result for Nvidia:

www.anandtech.com/show/8973/nvidia-releases-q4-fy-2015-and-full-year-results-record-revenue-for-quarter-and-full-year

But the 970 did not come out till around a year or so later so WTF. So yes it should be better but it should have 4GB usable too.

Too much brain... must... fanboy...

What I find more funny is that this thread should of been about the driver updates. However, it's turn out to GPU bashing. Perhaps, these threads would of been the right place to discuss it?;

www.techpowerup.com/209409/perfectly-functional-gtx-970-cards-being-returned-over-memory-controversy.html

www.techpowerup.com/209412/amd-cashes-in-on-gtx-970-drama-cuts-r9-290x-price.html

D007I've bought ATI and Nvidia. I have no brand loyalty what so ever. Typical fan boy comment.
I guess I hurt your ATI feelings?

Truth hurts I suppose.
ATI can't even make a better card than Nvidia borked card..lol..
Is what it is and I'm sure you know it.
If you don't, look at the statistics..



Because it's still better than the ATI equivalent.



Because everyone is playing games that require 4 gigs?
What a ridiculous comment..
I play at 4k res, maximum settings, in top end games and I still don't touch 4 gigs.

As long as any game pushes it above 3500MB it will use the messed up 512MB and slideshow/stutter will start.

MxPhenom 216@Prima.Vera[/USER] Kepler has already had most if not all the optimizations for that architecture they could do. And now Maxwell is their full time baby, so makes far more sense to optimize that architecture now.

I'm talking about the new games such as Far Cry 4 or Dragon Age 3, which have really crappy optimization for 7xx, specially under Win 7.

harry90As long as any game pushes it above 3500MB it will use the messed up 512MB and slideshow/stutter will start.

What game does that with reasonable settings, that is within the cards capabilities?

Also one 970 is not meant to run bf4 at 4k in ultra settings so idc how much memory one 970 has, if you expect it to be untouchable you are deluding yourself.
It's one 970, a mid range card, not quad sli 980's..

AsRockBut the 970 did not come out till around a year or so later so WTF. So yes it should be better but it should have 4GB usable too.

I will agree again that the 970 is a dam good card how ever in my case some of my games go over that 3.5GB.

No games I do go over 3 gig at all, even at 4k res and max settings.
What are you guys playing? lol