downloading the ISO now, speeds are poo so it wont be done til tomorrow.


Going to ditch insider and go 'retail' from here on, even if i have to reinstall win 7/8 to achieve it.

Can testers of Windows 10 please answer me a few questions:

1. Are all settings available in Control Panel and are not (some) restricted to PC Settings?

2. Did they finally bring back GUI for editing WiFi profiles?

3. Does it support any new filesystems like Ext4, btrfs, ZFS?

4. Does Windows still bother with formating your disk just because it does not support the filesystem (ext4) on it? Pretty moronic.

So, how does the licensing work for those that want to install from a fresh ISO. What key are we going to use, or will one be provided to us to the email we had to use to register for the upgrade?

I will NOT be happy living with an upgrade from 8.1 to 10 (or the rest of the family and friends that I have to support going from 7 to 10) when something borks and I have to reinstall.

Os is the idea we install the upgrade, then create a stupid recovery disk to just purge the files and start from the beginning (off the same install)? Won't be too fun if your HDD ever dies..

Anyone help clarify that for me?

Cybrnook2002So, how does the licensing work for those that want to install from a fresh ISO. What key are we going to use, or will one be provided to us to the email we had to use to register for the upgrade?

I will NOT be happy living with an upgrade from 8.1 to 10 (or the rest of the family and friends that I have to support going from 7 to 10) when something borks and I have to reinstall.

Os is the idea we install the upgrade, then create a stupid recovery disk to just purge the files and start from the beginning (off the same install)? Won't be too fun if your HDD ever dies..

Anyone help clarify that for me?

I think you can recover your keys using the windows live account registered online, which activates the OS. It's an educated guess, but you can likely install windows 10 without a key (or with one of the temporary volume licence keys like with win 8.1) and then login, to activate windows. This is not giving you a free retail copy to install on upgraded machines and whatnot, they do expect you to actually buy retail copies at some point.

Uplink10Can testers of Windows 10 please answer me a few questions:

1. Are all settings available in Control Panel and are not (some) restricted to PC Settings?

2. Did they finally bring back GUI for editing WiFi profiles?

3. Does it support any new filesystems like Ext4, btrfs, ZFS?

4. Does Windows still bother with formating your disk just because it does not support the filesystem (ext4) on it? Pretty moronic.

1. no. some take you to PC settings, but at least its not full screen metro anymore.

2. vague question, so no idea.

3. no, why would it?

4.yeah. like every other OS with an unknown partition.

Amazing, I don't care!

Mussels2. vague question, so no idea.

Under PC Settings in Windows 8.1 you can just forget a Wifi network, you cannot change type of security or password.
You can change password and other things through GUI only if you are currently connected to the network.

Mussels3. no, why would it?

4.yeah. like every other OS with an unknown partition.

Well for example Linux supports many file systems and there is no problem with writing files on NTFS. Microsoft is not the only OS "in town". There are others and that is why they should support file systems that other OSes uses. OS must support interoperability, you know that thing that makes everything work in the world.

Edit:
And proposing to delete my data just because the OS does not support file system that it should support is not O.K..

Easy RhinoOnce I activate Windows 10 can I wipe out my everything and install Windows 10 disc from scratch?

From what I can see, the one thing you don't get is a separate ISO and activation key for free. No, Microsoft insist you upgrade to it from W7/8 at which point it becomes an OEM copy tied to your motherboard. That's not so hot really, is it?

Also, it's not clear if your old W7/8 key is still valid to activate those old operating systems once upgraded. If not, then this is hardly free and is actually a part exchange in a similar way to how you might part ex your car.

If someone could clarify these points, that would be great.

Would someone be willing to send me a RTM ISO? :) my build will not update. I'm on 10125 and it says I am up to date? :(

nickbaldwin86Would someone be willing to send me a RTM ISO? :) my build will not update. I'm on 10125 and it says I am up to date? :(

i found links here

microsoft-news.com/download-windows-10-rtm-build-10240-iso/

Edit: these links are not from microsoft, but since this *is* free software at present i do not see any piracy concerns.

Musselsi found links here

microsoft-news.com/download-windows-10-rtm-build-10240-iso/

Thanks @Mussels !!!!

yeeeemanAmazing, I don't care!

Then why bother posting?

Development cut by several months? That cannot end well.

Interesting; did a Windows 8.1 update and after reboot there is an icon on the taskbar......When you mouse over it, it states "Get Windows 10." :p

OctopussDevelopment cut by several months? That cannot end well.

Who says it was cut by several months?

nickbaldwin86I would love a ISO :)

There are ISO's available I downloaded one last night you just need to have some skills searching the internet :)

Cybrnook2002Million $ question right there....

I did that this morning in a VM and had no issues.

I copied down my cd key from build 10166. Downloaded an 10240 ISO from the internet reinstalled with the CD key and its activated fine and up and running!

Wait for the new ver of StartIsBack/Classic Shell LOL

Man, I am nervous!.I have 8.1 on my Ultra Book. I have 18.7 GB's on my SSD. Is this this gonna crash me?

What is the footprint of this 10240? Also, on my Other Win7 Machine, with a 7850, am I gonna have to fight win10 to keep my Catalyst version? That would be a drag!!

Plus Is it gonna eff up my FAH? Non of the goofy Windows Drivers helped me at all!! Ever!! Well, on my UltraBook, maybe, HD4000 hasn't bonked out on my yet!!

I wanna do it, but you all have made me sit back and think/ worry!! If I switch over and it Does something stupid, I am toast!

I may just go with my original plan and wait it out until Fall. Perhaps then I will be more comfortable with it, with probably a hundred fixes under their belts by then! :D

:lovetpu:

Bed news on the horizon:
"Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you have Enterprise Edition"

I personally think Microsoft is pushing Windows 10 too fast and 2 soon. people had hardly any time to develop anything for windows vista and windows 8.1 ect. and windows 7 is still good yet.

Solidstate89Who says it was cut by several months?

Microsoft. Windows 10 was originally supposed to be released in autumn, but they did it now because of some children going back from summer holidays bullshit nonsense (like every child buys an OS as they go back to school :rolleyes:).

Uplink10Bed news on the horizon:
"Windows 10: You'll get UPDATES LIKE IT or NOT – unless you have Enterprise Edition"

Old news, but thanks.

Caring1Old news, but thanks.

i'm running the RTM build now, and i can confirm we still have no control over windows updates. You can schedule when they install but *not* when they download, which is a total pain in the ass for someone without high speed broadband.

qubitFrom what I can see, the one thing you don't get is a separate ISO and activation key for free. No, Microsoft insist you upgrade to it from W7/8 at which point it becomes an OEM copy tied to your motherboard. That's not so hot really, is it?

Also, it's not clear if your old W7/8 key is still valid to activate those old operating systems once upgraded. If not, then this is hardly free and is actually a part exchange in a similar way to how you might part ex your car.

If someone could clarify these points, that would be great.

With the option to revert to a previous OS expiring after 30 days, I would assume the validation key would then be tied to the new OS and no longer function with the old OS.
At least that way you can do a clean reinstall after formatting a drive, and use that key again.

Musselsi'm running the RTM build now, and i can confirm we still have no control over windows updates. You can schedule when they install but *not* when they download, which is a total pain in the ass for someone without high speed broadband.

Same continent Mussels, mine seem to download during the day, usually when I'm in the middle of something.