Numbers mean nothing to me if I don't have anything to compare them with. Can someone also post numbers for current gen cards using similar system?

RejZoRNumbers mean nothing to me if I don't have anything to compare them with. Can someone also post numbers for current gen cards using similar system?

You can search the FM database........................

Anyway, its about spot on/a bit faster than a factory overclocked 980Ti and 5820K.

If it does not destroy the GTX980Ti its a fail in my book

ZoneDymoIf it does not destroy the GTX980Ti its a fail in my book

Considering its likely not big die Pascal I disagree. However it should royally destroy the 980 non-ti. Thats a better comparison.

wow, that's disappointing...

OC'd 980ti.... that's it???

That's what the 1080Ti is for. :D

This is not a 'ti'.

It's going to be slightly better (maybe) than 980ti, I'd guess with greater power efficiency. What the videocardz piece says as well is that the LN2 cooled 980ti FM results at similar clocks destroy the 1080. So perhaps Pascal isn't very good until we see daddy Pascal. Same as 980 Maxwell wasn't really much better than a 780ti - this is the same all over again. It's only because of it's high clock speed that it's improving...

badtaylorxwow, that's disappointing...

OC'd 980ti.... that's it???

With a lot less power use... its also not the flagship. ;)

This has been the pattern for years and is proper and expected. A new generation of cards will not make the previous gen obsolete or useless. The new 1080 should be on par or lightly exceed the 980Ti, the 1070 should meet or slightly exceed the 980, the 1060 should meet or slightly exceed the 970. The difference is higher performance, less power, for less money. I would consider it a success if the "exceed" part is about 10% since the lifespan of Maxwell has been quite long.

So 2 cards maybe that actually stand for some better performance we actually need (and might I add for quite a few generations now) and those will be the highest priced cards?

Yeah good stuff.... anyone giving a damn about actual damn progress and actually something worth being called "next gen" would want a GTX1060 to be at the level of a GTX980Ti now and everything above it should destroy it.
But nope, guess another "Generation" of mediocre upgrades unless you pay 700 dollars, great, good stuff.

I mean www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_980_Ti_XtremeGaming/7.html

a current top of the line card, that this new pretty much close to top of the line card gets similar performance to, gets a mere 43 fps on 2560x1440....
You are buying a card that is incapable from the start.
Lets not play around people this is the "80" not the 70 not the 60 but the 80 line of cards, and this is what we can expect from a future card, not even being able to max a CURRENT game, let alone games in the near future?

I dont see the point.

EarthDogYou can search the FM database........................

Yeah, that's why we read articles, to go dig numbers out there somewhere...

Sorry you have to make SOME effort on your own...

Why was that up to the person posting the news??!?? o_O :nutkick:

Think people tend to forget....a lot...that P104 is a midrange chip.

Well, in fairness, you are now the third person that brought it up in 15 posts... :lovetpu:

EarthDogWell, in fairness, you are now the third person that brought it up in 15 posts... :lovetpu:

And yet others still going on about how this is shit, when in fact a midrange beating a top end is quite good.

God bless the miracle of forums!!!

PP MguireAnd yet others still going on about how this is shit, when in fact a midrange beating a top end is quite good.

oh right 980 midrange, add a "T" and a "i" and its top end.
Makes sense.....

ZoneDymooh right 980 midrange, add a "T" and a "i" and its top end.
Makes sense.....

It does, actually. Welcome to NVIDIA nomenclature. ;)

This sounds like fud.

ZoneDymooh right 980 midrange, add a "T" and a "i" and its top end.
Makes sense.....

That's exactly what they're doing. Makes sense, makes them more money.

EarthDogIt does, actually. Welcome to NVIDIA nomenclature. ;)

the 60 is low end gaming
the 70 is mid end gaming
the 80 is high end gaming
the Ti is a boosted version

Titan is overpriced

Thats how the nomenclature worked,
the GTX960Ti would not suddenly better then the 980 purely because of the Ti thing

Yes and no...

The 980 and 980TI are DIFFERENT GPUs. Its not simply an overclocked 980. On the mid/lower level, the TI's tend to be overclocked versions, but there is some GPU difference. It would have to be looked at on a case by case basis.

But yeah, 980 to 980Ti are two different cores under the hood. 980Ti and Titan X have the same GPU. They do NOT share it with the 980Ti. So, that is not 'what they are doing' at least at the flagship level. I don't know about the midrange... that may be true (you can take the time to look it up if you choose. :)).

And this was pretty much exactly what we expected; performance sligtly above GTX 980 Ti...

EarthDogThe 980 and 980TI are DIFFERENT GPUs. Its not simply an overclocked 980. On the mid/lower level, the TI's tend to be overclocked versions, but there is some GPU difference. It would have to be looked at on a case by case basis.

The only Ti I remember that wasn't high end was the GTX560Ti, and it was a different GPU than the GTX560.

EarthDogYes and no...

The 980 and 980TI are DIFFERENT GPUs. Its not simply an overclocked 980. On the mid/lower level, the TI's tend to be overclocked versions, but there is some GPU difference. It would have to be looked at on a case by case basis.

But yeah, 980 to 980Ti are two different cores under the hood. 980Ti and Titan X have the same GPU. They do NOT share it with the 980Ti. So, that is not 'what they are doing' at least at the flagship level. I don't know about the midrange... that may be true (you can take the time to look it up if you choose. :)).

The 980 is still a high end card. No ifs or buts. It's €500. If the 1080 is about as much that too is a high end card.