Thursday, July 28th 2016

AMD Radeon RX 470 and RX 460 Official Specifications Leaked

The official specifications of two the two upcoming mainstream graphics cards by AMD, the Radeon RX 470, and the Radeon RX 460, were leaked to the web as slides from the company's official press presentation ahead of their early-August product launches. The RX 470 is based on the same "Ellesmere" Polaris10 silicon as the RX 480. It features 2,048 stream processors across 32 GCN compute units; 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, and 4 GB of memory across a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface.

The RX 470 features clock speeds of 926 MHz core, 1206 MHz boost, and 6.6 Gbps memory, working out to 211 GB/s memory bandwidth. The RX 460, on the other hand, is based on the "Baffin" Polaris11 silicon, featuring 896 stream processors, 48 TMUs, 16 ROPs, and 4 GB of memory across a 128-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface. Its core is clocked at 1090 MHz, with 1200 MHz boost, and 7 Gbps memory, working out to 112 GB/s memory bandwidth. The RX 470 draws power from a single 6-pin PCIe power connector as its TDP is rated at 120W; the RX 460 relies entirely on the PCIe slot for its power, as its TDP is rated at <75W. The RX 470 will be available from 4th August, 2016; with the RX 460 following on 8th August.
Source: VideoCardz
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55 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 470 and RX 460 Official Specifications Leaked

#1
ZoneDymo
Man those slides are asssss, dont show anything about the settings... I guess the comparison (performance increase) is more what matters but why even show fps then?
EDIT: Wait a minute... "Brilliant HD gaming at Ultra settings"?
According to TPU's benchmark the RX480 does just about 66fps on 1600x900 in Hitman...
Do they call 1280x720 HD gaming or something or what?

and secondly, why is it being compared with the 270 and 260 and not the 370 and 360? would the difference be way too small otherwise and therefor show these cards as not all that interesting?

oh and also, the second slide with that 1x marker and the increase the card gives is once again skewed as hell, 1.2x looks like 1.4x if you compare the grey bar and the red bar.
Can we really not get some consumer protection agency to slap both AMD and Nvidia in the face for this blatant misleading they constantly do?
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#2
nemesis.ie
ZoneDymoMan those slides are asssss, dont know anything about the settings... I guess the comparison is more what matters but why even show fps then?
and secondly, why is it being compared with the 270 and 260 and not the 370 and 360? would the difference be way too small and therefor show these cards as not all that interesting?
It does say "ultra" so one would assume all settings are on max, with the likely exception of AA and perhaps any "over ultra" type settings.

Based on RX 480 performance and the spec difference that would seem to make sense anyway.

As ever, the reviews will tell us more. :)
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#3
arbiter
nemesis.ieIt does say "ultra" so one would assume all settings are on max, with the likely exception of AA and perhaps any "over ultra" type settings.
But doesn't say rez used so that would be the question.
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#4
Supercrit
460's slide just showed how it's pointless.
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#5
Nergal
That 470 looks like a cheaper alternative to the 480 OR 1060; if you dont mind turning some features off (most don´t mind). The 460 looks pretty weak, but then again its entry level, and you get what you pay for.

When will NV be releasing cards in this range? Because again, AMD will gain market share by this.
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#6
P4-630
GTA V 74fps? What resolution and what settings....
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#7
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
460 would make a good replacement for a dead integrated GPU. That said, there's a small jump between RX 480 and RX 470 but a massive jump between RX 470 and RX 460. RX 460 is half the card compared to RX 470. I'm getting the distinct impression RX 460 should be an RX 450 with something better to take the RX 460 position.

They look like okay cards but a gamer like me isn't going to get excited about them.
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#8
WernerHerzog
Regarding the RX460: Currently looking for a replacement for my GTX750ti. What kind of performance gain can be expected? Any guesses?
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#9
Basard
Supercrit460's slide just showed how it's pointless.
This is the card you buy your mom or grandma for Christmas, so they can enjoy The Sims.... it's epic!
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#10
P4-630
WernerHerzogRegarding the RX460: Currently looking for a replacement for my GTX750ti. What kind of performance gain can be expected? Any guesses?
Just wait for the reviews, a GTX750Ti is not a bad card either, I don't expect a RX460 that much faster.
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#11
laszlo
NergalWhen will NV be releasing cards in this range? Because again, AMD will gain market share by this.
more amd gain higher pressure on nv pricing so is a win for all in the end
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#12
dj-electric
Efficiency wise Polaris is at maxwell level
In that case, RX 460 is expected to be about as fast as a GTX 750 Ti

So, how revolutionary 99$ for a product like that would be, if the GTX 750 Ti is already being sold for 99$?
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#14
jabbadap
Supercrit460's slide just showed how it's pointless.
Well not necessary, form factor screams htpc usage with small cases. Those NDA lifts messages on those slides are today, so will there be reviews today too?

But performance vice: With such a lowish clocks it will have hard time with gtx950, might not be even fastest no extra power connector card(well fastest official, but those AIB custom "lp" gtx950:s might be faster. But It's a close call: from tpus review asus gtx950@1.2GHz 1.84TFlops and RX460@1.2 2.15TFlops. thus RX460/gtx950 fp32 compute ratio is 1.16, RX480/gtx970 ratio is 1.36 and RX480/gtx980 ratio is 1.09). Pure compute power POV for gtx960, no change.
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#15
Nabarun
My only question is whether the 460 is any good for 60 FPS with decent settings @ 1080P for AAA titles (minus Crysis, of course), and if IT is the best choice at this price point in terms of perf/buck.
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#16
P4-630
NabarunMy only question is whether the 460 is any good for 60 FPS with decent settings @ 1080P for AAA titles (minus Crysis, of course), and if IT is the best choice at this price point in terms of perf/buck.
I don't think so.
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#17
Nergal
The 750 is already +2years old

Would you buy a car that is from a version of 5years ago(produced who knows), costs the same and performs the same (or worse) than a new version of a car?

Perception is key here I think.
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#18
jmgbjr
WernerHerzogRegarding the RX460: Currently looking for a replacement for my GTX750ti. What kind of performance gain can be expected? Any guesses?
I thought Polaris11 was the mobile chip they were demoing as being able match a GTX 950, albeit that GPU was likely clocked lower but using all 1024 stream processors. Hopefully this will surpass an R7 370 but be slower than a R9 380. Not too bad I guess for 100 bucks
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#19
c12038
Question is if it uses the same GPU chip could it be bios unlocked to a full blown RX480
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#20
deu
ZoneDymoMan those slides are asssss, dont show anything about the settings... I guess the comparison (performance increase) is more what matters but why even show fps then?
EDIT: Wait a minute... "Brilliant HD gaming at Ultra settings"?
According to TPU's benchmark the RX480 does just about 66fps on 1600x900 in Hitman...
Do they call 1280x720 HD gaming or something or what?

and secondly, why is it being compared with the 270 and 260 and not the 370 and 360? would the difference be way too small otherwise and therefor show these cards as not all that interesting?

oh and also, the second slide with that 1x marker and the increase the card gives is once again skewed as hell, 1.2x looks like 1.4x if you compare the grey bar and the red bar.
Can we really not get some consumer protection agency to slap both AMD and Nvidia in the face for this blatant misleading they constantly do?
270 is better than 370; thats why. + They have been drawing comparison to the 200-series with their 480 (and is going to do so with their VEGA judging from their marketing, it would make no sense to confuse people more by altering this. When it comes to the slides; This is marketing; They push the limits of the truth here. Wait for a review if you want to see real life performance; Not a company's favorite-performing games :)
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#21
dj-electric
ShurikNwww.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_750_Ti/25.html

Acording to TPU review 750ti is 13% faster on average than a 260X. From these slides 460 is about 25% faster than 260X. Therefore, this new 75W card should perform at least 10% faster.
So roughly about the same feeling when gaming. That ain't something new. RX 460 needs to be a bit more appealing in my opinion.
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#22
Nergal
Proclaiming to be "the best" or "the tastiest" is a long worn-out record. People hardly turn their head when a product promotes itself as such. Add some statistics and suddenly "They have gone too far"?

Everyone knows that is just sales-talk, like you said, and people falling for it deserve it. If you want to attack that, you can attack capitalism. Which you very well could. The food and pharmaceutical industry should be held to much more (public) scrutiny. Not a video card nor its PR.
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#23
Thimblewad
I don't know why all the hate. I think that the RX470 would be a pretty good upgrade for my good old R9 270X. And the charts aren't off at all, I get about 45-50 FPS with everything maxed in GTA V(except advanced) and 1080p.
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#24
jabbadap
Hmm does W1zzard have R9-380x, would be interesting to see clock to clock comparison with RX 470(shader count is the same).
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#25
Captain_Tom
P4-630Just wait for the reviews, a GTX750Ti is not a bad card either, I don't expect a RX460 that much faster.
I would expect 30%+ faster
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