EarthDogThe flip side, was AMD. AMD CPUs do bottleneck modern high end GPUs. Intel's will not starting around SB/IB. But X58 chips do hold back high end GPUs. Benchmarks all over that place.

GoldenXToo expensive for a dual core.

dalekdukesboyYour "flip side" proves my point, I could go back to even older or even newer lower end intel hardware and make the point it won't bottleneck any game with any high end card or cards and literally can still be within striking range of a brand new x99 system with any 6-10 core processor...what is your point? I can buy and overclock a good ivy bridge and your 25% will be zero or less in most situations. Isn't that kinda sad for 6 year old hardware? Should be 75% slower or more being over a half decade old.

dalekdukesboyExactly, my whole point with all of this is how ridiculous this all is. If I want a dual core I could use a core 2 duo and probably not be that far behind this lol.

Musselsi didnt say it was a good call at launch, but it'll drop over time. plenty of people exclusively play DX9 games on modern hardware (LoL, Dota2, SCII, etc) and a super clocked dual core like these would be ideal (if the price is good)

dalekdukesboyI will and can point to my statements and yours and show who's seriously talking out his butt, however I will concede the floor to others' who I hope will see the major errors of your statements in the sense that...well yeah. That core 2 duo thing, kinda a joke to make my point, and you actually took my throw away line of a now over 10 year old platform and compared it to a modern day 2 core cpu and think by even comparing them you help your case? Come on man, also unless you think 60-120 % exaggeration of the differences in scores is statistically irrelevant, yeah either reading comprehension is not your thing or basic math isn't. Yes in some tests it scores over 200% however you don't get to just cherry pick and when you factor in 4 cores (2 virtual) versus 2 cores yeah honestly it does better than I'd expect for decade old hardware.

BlueberriesCPU design / throughput and video game design / performance are mutually exclusive, the sooner you realize that the more my "major errors" will make sense to you.



"I'm still using this phone, my signal strength is the same! iPhone 7s are a waste of money!"

dalekdukesboyNo kidding. No, it's because you choose to pick "video game" out of one thing I said and run with it, and disregard the rest.

dalekdukesboyI could go back to even older or even newer lower end intel hardware and make the point it won't bottleneck any game with any high end card or cards and literally can still be within striking range of a brand new x99 system with any 6-10 core processor...what is your point? I can buy and overclock a good ivy bridge and your 25% will be zero or less in most situations. Isn't that kinda sad for 6 year old hardware? Should be 75% slower or more being over a half decade old.

dalekdukesboyExactly, you have to go all the way back to x58 and that is ancient and even that I bet if you get a good enough system overclocked the bottleneck on the best GPU and intensive game is fairly minimal.

I could use a core 2 duo and probably not be that far behind this lol.

Franzen4Reallol!! (I was entertained with that thread! lol)


" expected to carry a base clock of 4 GHz, with 5 GHz on air being the expected OC potential of the chips."

@Dj-ElectriC will not be pleased... Next time, you must remember-- pretty please with a cherry on top

dalekdukesboyAlso, I started by saying I just wanted AMD to come up with a good product generally to stimulate the market with competition because for several years the improvements are minimal. Yes I realize I just made the point later about video games (ironically that I never play any more) but once I left that realm of conversation and spoke of general performance you were having none of it, like a good liberal news reporter....you just get your template and run with it regardless of what someone tries to say off the topic of your template. I will reiterate to make it clearer, there is nowhere near enough progress between x79 and x99 and over a half a decade of time thanks to stagnation in competition and the fact you still have to fork out 400$ or so for a 4960x kind of proves my point. If a processor almost 4 years old can sell for 400 dollars in a defunct socket and as a defunct CPU it is pretty obvious it has too much value and relevance thanks to such little technological advancement.