Tuesday, February 7th 2017
AMD's Ryzen Chips 10% Smaller Than Comparable Intel Skylake Dies
At the International Solid State Circuits Conference (ISSCC), AMD presented a whitepaper in which they demonstrated how its upcoming Zen x86 core fits into a 10 percent smaller die area than Intel's currently shipping second-generation 14nm processor. According to reports, analysts and Intel engineers in the session said the Zen core is clearly competitive, though many as-of-yet unknown variables will determine whether the die advantage translates into lower costs for AMD. That said, one thing is clear: the chip will have to perform in addition to being smaller, if AMD wants to ever capitalize on the potentially higher margins a smaller die could grant them.
One of the ways AMD improved upon its ZEN core in comparison to its previous products has been on switching capacitance for their new chips, with a reported overall 15% improvement. In addition, AMD has apparently moved on to a metal-insulator-metal capacitor design, thus achieving lower operating voltages as well as as more fine-grained per-core voltage and frequency control (on to become part of their SenseMI technology suite). Looking at the image, which pits an AMD ZEN chip to a comparable Intel solution, we see that AMD saves additional die space by making do with only 12 metal layers as well as overall lower L2 and L3 cache footprints.
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EETimes
One of the ways AMD improved upon its ZEN core in comparison to its previous products has been on switching capacitance for their new chips, with a reported overall 15% improvement. In addition, AMD has apparently moved on to a metal-insulator-metal capacitor design, thus achieving lower operating voltages as well as as more fine-grained per-core voltage and frequency control (on to become part of their SenseMI technology suite). Looking at the image, which pits an AMD ZEN chip to a comparable Intel solution, we see that AMD saves additional die space by making do with only 12 metal layers as well as overall lower L2 and L3 cache footprints.
46 Comments on AMD's Ryzen Chips 10% Smaller Than Comparable Intel Skylake Dies
Wonder how this will affect cooling.
YOU, as a consumer, need to worry, because if AMD's chips kill Intel's across the board, AMD's chips will receive price gouges at the retailers in the least, and at worst, will be priced so either no one can afford them, or so that they sell so fast that nobody can buy them and they are that rare bird that only comes out when the moon is at the right angle.
AMD will do well regardless of what Intel does. Intel will still do billions more in sales than AMD; none of that is going to change by a single CPU release.
Intel is barely funding their dividend, share buyback and CAPEX for their fab albatross, even now, with no competition. Any loss in sales or margins will negatively impact Intel beyond what their blind investor base could ever imagine.
Six months from now it will be interesting to see where Intel's share price will be.
Elemental gallium actually has a melting point of basically a warm summer day, or "302.9146 K (29.7646 °C, 85.5763 °F)."
That's from wikipedia.
I digress..it's clear this is, for some reason, contentious to you to have a discussion. :ohwell:
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