Friday, February 24th 2017
AMD "Zen" Based APUs Later This Year
An AMD representative, responding to a Reddit question on AMD Ryzen branding, confirmed that the company will launch Mobile SoCs (APUs) based on the "Zen" micro-architecture later this year. The logical next-step for AMD with "Zen" beyond "Summit Ridge" has been to combine one or more quad-core "Zen" CCX (CPU complexes) with an integrated graphics core based on one of its newer GPU architectures ("Polaris" or "Vega").
The AMD representative confirmed that the company will launch mobile SoCs that combine "Zen" CPU cores with an integrated GPU, in the second half of 2017. This could hint at the availability of "Zen" powered notebooks, of all shapes and sizes by Holiday 2017. Over the year, AMD will begin launching "Zen" based products, starting off with 8-core high-end Ryzen 7 processors on March 2nd, six-core and some of the higher-end quad-core Ryzen 5 series processors in Q2-2017, and some of the lower-end quad-core Ryzen 3 parts in the second-half of 2017, now joined by mobile SoCs around the same time.
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The AMD representative confirmed that the company will launch mobile SoCs that combine "Zen" CPU cores with an integrated GPU, in the second half of 2017. This could hint at the availability of "Zen" powered notebooks, of all shapes and sizes by Holiday 2017. Over the year, AMD will begin launching "Zen" based products, starting off with 8-core high-end Ryzen 7 processors on March 2nd, six-core and some of the higher-end quad-core Ryzen 5 series processors in Q2-2017, and some of the lower-end quad-core Ryzen 3 parts in the second-half of 2017, now joined by mobile SoCs around the same time.
35 Comments on AMD "Zen" Based APUs Later This Year
8c/16t 65w Zen++ with VEGA (or NAVI and HBM2) sounds great, light years ahead of switch...
If a company can come up with something like that this year, that's my next portable device.
Also, a Thunderbolt 3 + USB C port and an SD card slot would be great. I always love the option of being able to upgrade storage when possible, if that's an option.
XBone II (Scorpio) => 0% chances (at least if I get what CEO is saying about "no custom Zen based solutions until 2018") it is likely using Polaris though
PlayStation 5 gen will aim for sure for 4k @ 60fps. In 2019/2020 we will already have good enough GPU power for that and HDMI 2.1 will help smoothing framerates aswell.
The next gen consoles imo will be the closest ever to PC performance. The gap is shrinking more and more, and the fact that after 4k 60hz it doesn´t matter anymore, also helps. Soon the Nvidia vs AMD battle won´t be on PCs, trust me, it will be on consoles. Nvidia already powering a console too (nintendo) and doing consoles themselves (shield). It´s the market trend.
Sure, by 2020 your PC can do 4k @ 144hz on many games, but does it really matter anymore past that point? We will reach a stall eventually and it all will point towards HDR performances, VR (if it suceeds), frame interpolation with low input lag, synchronization technologies, etc etc.
Oh who am I kidding? AMD will let OEMs throw their chips in laptops with inadequate cooling solutions, single channel memory, TDP limitations, 768p tn screens, and the finest 5200RPM hard drives money can buy, just like with richland, and kaveri, and carizo, and bristol ridge.
AMD needs to take charge, force OEMs to make decent products with AMD inside, or go through clevo or MSI for their laptop designs. The plastic junk that dell, hp, lenovo et al throw AMD into isnt worth its weight in garbage.
AMDs problem was that it was irrelevant in mid-high end machines (actually carrizo was pretty good for mid machines, but "mindshare" and whatever). Now we have a different situation.Good half of the PC gamers are on slower than consoles (PS4, let alone PS4 Pro) machines.PC gaming is simply not suited for "sofa gaming"
People could buy SFF pre built PCs for ages it has no effect on consoles.
Also want to add to what you said, that by November with Xbox Scorpio you will have more console gamers using a 6tflop GPU than PC gamers, according to steam stats (only 2% use 6tflops and above)
Let me explain you some stuff. I do own a 144hz monitor and I do love playing on it, but that´s more for first person shooters or games controlled with a mouse. In all honestly when I´m sitting on a couch with a controller I don´t care about 144hz, 60fps are plenty to me. Also did you look at HDMI 2.1? The next protocal that will provide you 120fps smoothness even with the GPU output of 60fps only, without any increased input lag.
I reccomend you to read on that matter. It will also provide Gsync/Freesync similar technology to synch frames. It will be present on next gen consoles and it will be present on the new TV models from this year already, 2018 being the mainstream adoption.
Consoles won´t run 4k for a while? Did you actually know consoles already run 4k games? Sure, few: Fifa 17, PES 2017, NBA 2k, Little Big PLanet 3, Stardew Valley. Very few, but they already do it indeed, and at 60fps.
You´re talking about 90% of the games? Surely not, but I´m talking about year 2020, in 3 years don´t you think we will have more than capable GPUs of running 4k 60fps with decent graphic fidelity? (textures, lightning). I´m not talking about 2017.
Also, to make it clear, when I say consoles are catching up, I´m not saying they are getting better than PC. PC was, is and always will be the best performance platform. What I´m saying is that right now we are reaching a stall of techonolgy regarding frame rates and resolutions. When you get to 4k 60fps with HDMI 2.1 smoothness, there isn´t really much more to do. Sure you will have GPUs capable of 8k, but that´s it. Don´t expect higher resolutions to matter anymore. And even 8k is debatable on smaller screens tbh.
If you think that by 2020 when next gen consoles arrive, we will still be at 1080p 30fps/60fps, you are really wrong. By 2018 you will already be able to play 4k 60fps on your PC with a single GPU (btw gtx 1080ti is coming soon, so maybe you can do this even this year). So is to expect that a console on 2020 can already do this. And when a console provides you with 4k 60fps there is nothing else to do. It will be all about software wars and inovation wars, not performance. That´s why you are seeing Nvidia jumping on the console boat, there´s a reason for that. Don´t expect AMD to take PS5 or Xbox easily like they did this gen. Nvidia will for sure enter the fight, because the money is there! PS4 beating every videogame industry right now and surprassing stuff like NES; Genesis and PS2, shows it. The future won´t be decided by hardware performance anymore, it will be decided by games, software, exclusive deals.
Microsoft is lying. I'm sure they'll push a couple simple games with shit post processing to achieve native 4K at 25 fps for marketing, but that's pathetic. Scorpio is another dud.
PC always were far superior to consoles, and right now the difference is the smallest ever. No way in the past a game on PC vs console side by side would show such little improvement on graphic fidelity. In the past, 6 months were enough to evolve A LOT hardware wise, be it CPUs or GPUs. Right now is way slower, look how newest Intel chips have little improvements over 7 years chip.
Look how much time we have a 500€ gpu like gtx 1070 on the market, wich can barely run 1440p @ 144hz.
You guys get way too nervous when someone mentions consoles on these forums. I´m dealing with PC hardware for more than 25 years since Alley Cat on CGA monitors, and I´m more open minded than you.
Apus coming out this year will be 768SP parts with DDR4. That would be a downgrade.