Monday, April 3rd 2017
AMD's Ryzen 5 1400 Gaming Performance Leaked by Early Adopter
Even though the NDA still isn't up on AMD's second volley of Ryzen-based CPUs, some lucky buyers are already running some of the upcoming Ryzen 5 processors after some sellers jumped the gun. Now, a YouTube video by user "Santiago Santiago." is making the rounds in which he compares gaming performance between the Ryzen 5 1400 (4-core, 8-thread part @ 3.2 GHz base, 3.4 GHz boost), Intel's i5 7400 (4-cores @ 3.0 GHz base, 3.5 GHz boost), and the Pentium G4560, a Kaby Lake dual-core CPU with Hyper Threading @ 3.5 GHz base clocks. The user even snapped a picture proving he has his hands on this chip.
AMD's Ryzen 5 1400 was also tested while overclocked to 3.8 GHz - which puts it on a somewhat level playing field with Intel's i5 7400, sometimes being bested by it (like in Battlefield 1) and sometimes besting it (like in The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt). A Kingston HyperX Fury 2133@2666 MHz kit was used for both systems. Naturally, the 2-core, 4-thread Pentium G4560 trails both other tested processors by a fair margin in most games. The user has posted an index of sorts for the time slices on the YouTube video:
Keep in mind that AMD's Ryzen gaming performance has seen multiple improvements as of late, though these improvements have been more dependent on game developers than on AMD itself. However, the company is looking towards BIOS updates that should improve Ryzen's support and handling of high-speed DDR4 memory (with some latency improvements to boot), which should also provide some measure of a performance improvement.
Sources:
Videocardz, YouTube
- OCing at 00:16
- Specs at 00:41
- Battlefield 1 DX12 at 01:18
- Fallout 4 at 04:03
- GTA 5 at 04:51
- Hitman DX12 at 06:49
- Just Cause 3 at 07:39
- Assassin's Creed Unity at 08:06
- The Witcher 3 at 08:57
- Rise Of The Tomb Raider DX12 at 10:02
Keep in mind that AMD's Ryzen gaming performance has seen multiple improvements as of late, though these improvements have been more dependent on game developers than on AMD itself. However, the company is looking towards BIOS updates that should improve Ryzen's support and handling of high-speed DDR4 memory (with some latency improvements to boot), which should also provide some measure of a performance improvement.
29 Comments on AMD's Ryzen 5 1400 Gaming Performance Leaked by Early Adopter
cpu.userbenchmark.com/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/Rating/3919
the 1600 model
On the subject.
I know this R5 is an engineering sample but I honestly expect a bit more from it. I hope the clocks would be a bit higher than r7 family.
The die is the same. That's why you're not really seeing improvements in clock speeds. They're essentially broken R7 chips.
E.S. may or may not run at the rated speeds of the end product, generally from what I have seen they run a bit slower and can be missing some of the instruction sets
It sucks to be so financially constrained but that's why we have to hope 2017 will fill up AMD's coffers for a strong return to form in 2018 and 2019. Don't get me wrong. 2017 will likely be an excellent year for AMD (the best they've had in the last decade probably) but the outcome of 2017 will determine if they can expand their operations for the next few years. Hopefully they can, so that we see them release a more comprehensive stack of products for both the CPU and GPU market.
So having a lower tdp on the same type of chip just means they've designed it ( I. E they've lowered clocks and voltage or disabled cores, sometimes all 3) to fit within that tdp.
So if you got a 65w 1700 and ran it at same clocks and voltages as an 1800x it will be equivalent to 95w tdp.
Similar concept applies when over clock only you are now running beyond the thermal design power but you'll still end up with 140w+ cpu when you run more voltage through to get your overclock.
In Amds case I belive their tdp rating is based on rating of the heatsink required to cool the processor adequately.
So typically they would sell a 65w tdp with a heatsink capable of dissipating 65w of heat effectively.
That's why when actual power draw is measured its always higher than what the tdp is, because say the cpu is drawing 150w total most of that energy will be used for running the transistors how ever some of the energy is wasted as thermal energy ( since we can't make things 100% efficient) that's why we need bigger heatsinks or watercooling when overclock as wires in cpu are so small extra voltage "leaks" and that leakage turns into heat. The more volts you put in the more leaky things get which is why managing the heat output gets more and more difficult.
:)
1) if you have one - sell it and with that money buy NEW gtx 1060 (or rx 470 or rx480 - depending on stupidity level of your used card buyer) - and with spare 30$ pay your bills or buy a pink dildo for that sugar momma.
2) if you do not have one (780ti or 970) - do not even think about buying - do with that money the same as from "1)"
The Intel chips in this comparison are 4 cores and 2 cores/4 threads which means a game will likely fully saturate the entire chip with no headroom left.