Wednesday, April 5th 2017

AMD's RX 580, 570 and RX 550 Specifications and 3D Mark Results Leak

So, it would appear that rumors and leaks about the RX 500 series being simple rebrands of AMD's RX 400 line were true. Recent leaks point to no more changes and performance increases than those achieved through higher base clock speeds on the graphics cards' GPU and memory. The architecture is the same, and the process seems to have followed the same path - as of yet, no confirmation regarding whether or not these cards do use a newer, leaner LPP process for higher clocks and less power consumption.

The RX 580 will come in with clocks at 1340 MHz with 4 GB and 8 GB GDDR5 variants clocking in at 8.0 GHz along a 256-bit bus interface. This amounts to 256 GB/s of bandwidth, and pricing should be around the $199 - $249 mark. On the leaked Firestrike Extreme test, this card was clocked to 1500 MHz (not easy to achieve with current Polaris 10 GPUs) and a 6675 points score. The RX 570, on the other hand, seems to have not been given the core clocks bump treatment, but memory speeds should see an increase to 7 GHz, delivering 224 GB/s of bandwidth. Overclocked to 1325 MHz, it delivered a score of 5719 points in the same benchmark. Finally, the new kid on the block, AMD's Polaris 12 is somewhat of a head-scratcher of a part, with its measly 640 stream processors (the line between discrete graphics and integrated ones is really blurry here). RX 550 reference cards should come in at 1190 MHz, where it scores 1849 in 3DMark FireStrike Extreme, though the card does so with only PCIe power.
Pricing should be in line with AMD's RX 400 series, and performance should be comparable to RX 400 AIB cards, so no setting the world on fire here. If delay reports are true, expect these to be launched on April 18th. The RX 560 is MIA for now, but there is no reason to think it won't be launched alongside the other cards in the RX 500 line.
Sources: WCCFTech, ETeknix
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90 Comments on AMD's RX 580, 570 and RX 550 Specifications and 3D Mark Results Leak

#26
alucasa
On this forum, such segments are unknown to the most.

It's either 1080(or ti) or 1070. It's either 4k gaming or 144ghz gaming.
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#27
TheoneandonlyMrK
danbert2000I think it's a mistake for AMD to start rebranding old GPU's again. I know it was common practice last decade, but these changes aren't even as big as the 3XX series Radeon memory and clock boost, and that was an iffy choice as well.

They are just going to confuse customers and make it look like they're running in place as Nvidia releases the third new architecture in a row. Naming it the 485 instead of the 580 would be a much better choice.
Third new architecture in a row , clearly it just takes names to confuse some.
It doesn't matter what it's called it matters what it's priced at relative to what it will do and LPP with clock boosts is an upgrade , depends on everhead left though they could just be clocking the snot out of it.
I noted Nvidia May be selling gp102 disguised as gp104 Gtx1080s that May unlock to a 1080ti on one site recently , could be April first that one but it's a fact now it's in rumour land.
How confusing is that now, dial the laughs to 11, and your with me.
To clarify , This is just how it rolls. Regardless of the maker.
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#29
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
nem..
"just a rebrand"

that is a higher clock than I can sustain with my top end cards on air.
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#30
TheoneandonlyMrK
cdawall"just a rebrand"

that is a higher clock than I can sustain with my top end cards on air.
And it's my absolute max achieved on two water blocked refs ie none Aib 1x6pin so if there's oc Headroom and room for Aib overclockable they could be a good refresh, my card(1) does quite well at 4k at 1400 core clock for what it is and glides through 1440p ultra gaming.
Efficiency improvements would help too.
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#31
oxidized
nem.....
cdawall"just a rebrand"

that is a higher clock than I can sustain with my top end cards on air.
theoneandonlymrkAnd it's my absolute max achieved on two water blocked refs ie none Aib 1x6pin so if there's oc Headroom and room for Aib overclockable they could be a good refresh, my card(1) does quite well at 4k at 1400 core clock for what it is and glides through 1440p ultra gaming.
Efficiency improvements would help too.
Took me about 5 mins

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#32
TheoneandonlyMrK
oxidizedTook me about 5 mins

So your point is then ??

I thought it laughable but commented on the premise regardless of your crap paint skills.
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#33
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
oxidizedTook me about 5 mins

I mean I could draw a penis on it if you want? What point are you trying to prove?
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#34
oxidized
theoneandonlymrkSo your point is then ??

I thought it laughable but commented on the premise regardless of your crap paint skills.
Laughable cause you saw the original, i don't really think you'd realize it's a fake if you hadn't.

My point is, why should we believe a random shoot on the internet?
cdawallI mean I could draw a penis on it if you want? What point are you trying to prove?
What's with you guys? Why so irascible?
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#35
TheoneandonlyMrK
oxidizedLaughable cause you saw the original, i don't really think you'd realize it's a fake if you hadn't.

My point is, why should we believe a random shoot on the internet?


What's with you guys? Why so irascible?
As i said i have achieved those clocks(on 6pin refs) , that's as big a hint as i was willing to give a troll his game was up because calling out a troll directly leads to what follows
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#36
Captain_Tom
cdawallCool would be if the stock boost was 1500. I strongly doubt that would be a thing, but it would offer a reason to look at the cards for a lot of people. That is 980Ti like performance in quite a few games.
Indeed. Heck if they included 9000 MHz GDDR5 it might even touch the 1070.
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#37
oxidized
theoneandonlymrkAs i said i have achieved those clocks(on 6pin refs) , that's as big a hint as i was willing to give a troll his game was up because calling out a troll directly leads to what follows
So what? You want to see bigger numbers there? I can make you happy, i just need 5 mins :)

Seriously tho, why so angry, i'm just saying it's easily fakable, it was mainly a response to the guy who posted the original
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#38
TheoneandonlyMrK
oxidizedSo what? You want to see bigger numbers there? I can make you happy, i just need 5 mins :)

Seriously tho, why so angry, i'm just saying it's easily fakable, it was mainly a response to the guy who posted the original
Why assume I'm angry ,it's only a comment G you like it or you don't ,i can't much help replying if you infer im something I'm not though.
I get your point but deep down I know some shit to be and some not to be ,I'll give you an example.

The Rx 480 doesn't officially support rapid packed math but the new one should, an odd aside perhaps but if 4 16 bit ops are used in a game engine it won't be as it's automatically done afaik ,no special programming required.

Also

The LPP node swap will include mask refinement design tweaks Inc geometry's of objects etc and is not to be sniffed at Intel calls such things hyper scale development.
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#39
oxidized
theoneandonlymrkWhy assume I'm angry ,it's only a comment G you like it or you don't ,i can't much help replying if you infer im something I'm not though.
Well then, just sounded a bit upset is all. My mistake
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#40
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
oxidizedLaughable cause you saw the original, i don't really think you'd realize it's a fake if you hadn't.

My point is, why should we believe a random shoot on the internet?



What's with you guys? Why so irascible?
It could be fake or like everyone has said for weeks now the original cards on LPE sucked balls for clocking. LPP is a different process entirely and will improve clocks as well as power consumption. Why are you instantly dismissive of all things posted, neither of us walked out and said HOLY BATMAN THIS IF FOR FREAKING REALSZASDAS!.<!@#@!? It was an obvious well that would be nice if they hit those clocks from AMD. Pull your big boy pants on and move on.
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#41
Captain_Tom
theoneandonlymrkWhy assume I'm angry ,it's only a comment G you like it or you don't ,i can't much help replying if you infer im something I'm not though.
I get your point but deep down I know some shit to be and some not to be ,I'll give you an example.

The Rx 480 doesn't officially support rapid packed math but the new one should, an odd aside perhaps but if 4 16 bit ops are used in a game engine it won't be as it's automatically done afaik ,no special programming required.

Also

The LPP node swap will include mask refinement design tweaks Inc geometry's of objects etc and is not to be sniffed at Intel calls such things hyper scale development.
Forgive my ignorance, but are there rumors suggesting Polaris 20 has rapid packed math?
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#42
oxidized
cdawallIt could be fake or like everyone has said for weeks now the original cards on LPE sucked balls for clocking. LPP is a different process entirely and will improve clocks as well as power consumption
It's a different thing from an engineering view, who says it's going to improve that much? Why are we so sure about that, what if it doesn't?
cdawallWhy are you instantly dismissive of all things posted, neither of us walked out and said HOLY BATMAN THIS IF FOR FREAKING REALSZASDAS!.<!@#@!? It was an obvious well that would be nice if they hit those clocks from AMD. Pull your big boy pants on and move on.
Neither of you, maybe you two didn't, pretty sure there's someone else doing that, included the guy who posted the original pic
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#43
Super XP
ASOTAMD Rebranding stuff,again ))))
Nvidia does the exact same thing. Have been for years now.

I also suspect the pricing for these re-brands will be A Lot cheaper over the RX400 pricing scheme. These are coming out to sell, right before VEGA.
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#44
TheoneandonlyMrK
Captain_TomForgive my ignorance, but are there rumors suggesting Polaris 20 has rapid packed math?
Yes and I'm sure the 480 is technically capable but can't remember where i read that, it is also usual practice to include features that are not going to be released at the same time to test how they play out and AMD have often added such things ie tesselation , morpho AA so I'm fairly sure ,i recently got asynchronous space warp or something via driver.
And Hbr 3 8k support.
@oxidized ,I'm totally unsure tbh that's why i read these types of thread and more besides.
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#45
oxidized
theoneandonlymrk@oxidized I'm totally unsure tbh that's why i read these types of thread and more besides.
Alright
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#46
Super XP
I personally do not like rebrands. Because unsuspecting people will actually believe they are brand new.
That's said, this is the low to mid range segment. VEGA is for high end Enthusiasts.

Though I would like to see the RX580 match or exceed the R9-Fury X.
Here's a neat link that compared all based on users.
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-480-vs-AMD-R9-Fury-X/3634vs3498
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#47
Jism
cdawallIt is a swap from LPE to LPP. That is a relatively big change for them, also remember the RX480 got a bad name for power consumption. As a company it is very easy to see why they would change the name with the update. Would you want people to start off with a bad taste from reviews of a completely different card?
What? the 6 extra watts coming from the pci-e slot and not VRM? This was adressed with a driver update + only cheaply designed motherboards with oc's suffered from that. The 150W vs 5.8Tflops for ~ 220$ was a top card.

A better proces is a natural shift in any chip producer. It will spare costs for both AMD and Glofo and the chip is proberly better at higher clocks and lower voltage. Rebranding was done esp. for the OEM market if i'm not mistaken. The real deal is coming from Vega soon. :)
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#48
Captain_Tom
Super XPI personally do not like rebrands. Because unsuspecting people will actually believe they are brand new.
That's said, this is the low to mid range segment. VEGA is for high end Enthusiasts.

Though I would like to see the RX580 match or exceed the R9-Fury X.
Here's a neat link that compared all based on users.
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-480-vs-AMD-R9-Fury-X/3634vs3498
If it's 1500 MHz, it's a bigger upgrade than the 780 was to the 680 lol. Who cares how they accomplish it?


Now if it's 1350MHz, then yeah it's disappointing (And I am not yet convinced a standard 580 will clock to 1500MHz btw).
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#49
EarthDog
owen10578Also i don't see people complaining about Nvidia not even refreshing their cards.
Think...

They don't need to... :)
Captain_TomIf it's 1500 MHz, it's a bigger upgrade than the 780 was to the 680 lol. Who cares how they accomplish it?
it's not going to improve it 20%... ;)
Super XPNvidia does the exact same thing. Have been for years now.
They did... HAVEN'T BEEN for generations now... I dont recall one since the 6 series...(680 to 770)

Edit: linustechtips.com/main/topic/222806-rebranded-graphics-cards/

Did something sneek by me there? Can't think of any, at least where I know in midrange+.. any budget cards? That said, amd seems to rebrand (what feels like) entire lineups with no/minimal changes a lot more often than Nvidia.
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