Wednesday, April 5th 2017

AMD's RX 580, 570 and RX 550 Specifications and 3D Mark Results Leak

So, it would appear that rumors and leaks about the RX 500 series being simple rebrands of AMD's RX 400 line were true. Recent leaks point to no more changes and performance increases than those achieved through higher base clock speeds on the graphics cards' GPU and memory. The architecture is the same, and the process seems to have followed the same path - as of yet, no confirmation regarding whether or not these cards do use a newer, leaner LPP process for higher clocks and less power consumption.

The RX 580 will come in with clocks at 1340 MHz with 4 GB and 8 GB GDDR5 variants clocking in at 8.0 GHz along a 256-bit bus interface. This amounts to 256 GB/s of bandwidth, and pricing should be around the $199 - $249 mark. On the leaked Firestrike Extreme test, this card was clocked to 1500 MHz (not easy to achieve with current Polaris 10 GPUs) and a 6675 points score. The RX 570, on the other hand, seems to have not been given the core clocks bump treatment, but memory speeds should see an increase to 7 GHz, delivering 224 GB/s of bandwidth. Overclocked to 1325 MHz, it delivered a score of 5719 points in the same benchmark. Finally, the new kid on the block, AMD's Polaris 12 is somewhat of a head-scratcher of a part, with its measly 640 stream processors (the line between discrete graphics and integrated ones is really blurry here). RX 550 reference cards should come in at 1190 MHz, where it scores 1849 in 3DMark FireStrike Extreme, though the card does so with only PCIe power.
Pricing should be in line with AMD's RX 400 series, and performance should be comparable to RX 400 AIB cards, so no setting the world on fire here. If delay reports are true, expect these to be launched on April 18th. The RX 560 is MIA for now, but there is no reason to think it won't be launched alongside the other cards in the RX 500 line.
Sources: WCCFTech, ETeknix
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90 Comments on AMD's RX 580, 570 and RX 550 Specifications and 3D Mark Results Leak

#51
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
JismWhat? the 6 extra watts coming from the pci-e slot and not VRM? This was adressed with a driver update + only cheaply designed motherboards with oc's suffered from that. The 150W vs 5.8Tflops for ~ 220$ was a top card.

A better proces is a natural shift in any chip producer. It will spare costs for both AMD and Glofo and the chip is proberly better at higher clocks and lower voltage. Rebranding was done esp. for the OEM market if i'm not mistaken. The real deal is coming from Vega soon. :)
It wasn't just 6 extra watt off of the PCI-e. That was 12v consumption compared to total allowable for the slot.
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#52
Captain_Tom
EarthDogThink...

They don't need to... :)

it's not going to improve it 20%... ;)

They did... HAVEN'T BEEN for generations now... I dont recall one since the 6 series...(680 to 770)

Edit: linustechtips.com/main/topic/222806-rebranded-graphics-cards/

Did something sneek by me there? Can't think of any, at least where I know in midrange+.. any budget cards? That said, amd seems to rebrand (what feels like) entire lineups with no/minimal changes a lot more often than Nvidia.
1500/1266 = 1.18 buddy. Then consider that the stock 480 throttled a lot. I am not saying that will directly translate into 1:1 performance, but who knows?


P.S. 780 isn't 20% stronger than the pathetic 680 lol:

tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/images/perfrel_1920.gif
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#53
Nihilus
As for the RX 550, 1849 in FS extreme settings is still WAY above what any iGPU could do. With the right connectors, it could bring life back to old systems that are running multiple monitors.
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#54
ensabrenoir
oxidizedLaughable cause you saw the original, i don't really think you'd realize it's a fake if you hadn't.

My point is, why should we believe a random shoot on the internet?



What's with you guys? Why so irascible?
....whooa had to google that one...
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#55
ShurikN
I see a lot of people mentioning LPP and LPE, but did AMD and/or GF ever mention that 480 is on LPE, and that 580 will be on LPP. I don''t remember anyone ever mentioning the process type of Polaris10 aside from finfet 14nm.
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#56
Captain_Tom
ShurikNI see a lot of people mentioning LPP and LPE, but did AMD and/or GF ever mention that 480 is on LPE, and that 580 will be on LPP. I don''t remember anyone ever mentioning the process type of Polaris10 aside from finfet 14nm.
I don't believe AMD ever directly confirmed it.

If my memory serves me correctly, there were many rumor articles mentioning both. Although the more credible ones said LPE.


It is quite possible the 480 was made on dirt cheap 14nm LPE, and LPP was saved for the 500/Vega series. In fact that has been my hunch the entire time...
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#57
oxidized
Well let's hope, planning to keep my 2600k a little longer, squeeze out most i can of it, and pair it up with a rx580 maybe
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#58
unsmart
Without power usage numbers it's hard to say if a rebrand is justifiable. If there hitting 1500 at 150w than that's worthy of a name change. Isn't this what intel's been doing for years now[ with a socket change].
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#60
MrMilli
ShurikNI see a lot of people mentioning LPP and LPE, but did AMD and/or GF ever mention that 480 is on LPE, and that 580 will be on LPP. I don''t remember anyone ever mentioning the process type of Polaris10 aside from finfet 14nm.
Indeed, this rumor is just wrong. Polaris is already on LPP. There's not process change. AMD never used LPE.
At most it will be a new silicon revision.
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#61
ASOT
IF Nvidia made rebranding was many years ago,amd seems is doing for now..

I mean what joke is this,laugh of us.
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#62
medi01
1500 Mhz is very likely a fake.
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#63
TheoneandonlyMrK
oxidizedAlright
Most are here to speculate on rumours , your motive is to prove shit means naught and can be faked.
It's an odd pass time to me
MrMilliIndeed, this rumor is just wrong. Polaris is already on LPP. There's not process change. AMD never used LPE.
At most it will be a new silicon revision.
Where's your rumour busting proof because afaik and most of the industry knew , when Polaris came out only Lpe was available LPP has not been available long ,afaik RyZen is AMD's first cut at LPP though there is no Lpe anymore so that's deffinately not used.
Lpe wasn't dirt cheap btw , at risk production never is but it will have been subsidized in all likelihood.
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#64
ADHDGAMING
sounds like a consumer win to me .. these cards push prices of the previous brand down ... this would be great for my friends that are waiting on cards under like 150 - 200 $
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#65
Super XP
ADHDGAMINGsounds like a consumer win to me .. these cards push prices of the previous brand down ... this would be great for my friends that are waiting on cards under like 150 - 200 $
In that respect, I agree. Any $150-$250 Radeon card can pound any PC Game in 1080p at 60-100Hz.
AMD usually holds the best Prices Performance crown. VEGA, based on what we've been told, will be the GPU game changer. Will be what Fury X was suppose to have been.
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#66
horsemama1956
Super XPIn that respect, I agree. Any $150-$250 Radeon card can pound any PC Game in 1080p at 60-100Hz.
AMD usually holds the best Prices Performance crown. VEGA, based on what we've been told, will be the GPU game changer. Will be what Fury X was suppose to have been.
Game changer? I love AMD but the only thing that matters is raw performance to everyone but huge nerds and power usage to some and really doubt Vega is going to trump top end Pascal, let alone anything nVidia has waiting.

Since the VAST majority of PC gamers are going to top out at 1070ish pricing I would like to see AMD make their current offering more efficient. Would be nice to see 480 performance at 120 watts and lower temps, especially the VRMs. I think trying to revolutionize the CPU and GPU space at the same time when you have no money is going to be pretty hard. Polaris was just a sloppy release.

Would be curious to see 470 and 480 performance, temps and power usage with the cards running at 1100-1200.
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#67
ShurikN
theoneandonlymrkWhere's your rumour busting proof because afaik and most of the industry knew , when Polaris came out only Lpe was available LPP has not been available long ,afaik RyZen is AMD's first cut at LPP though there is no Lpe anymore so that's deffinately not used.
"We plan to begin volume production with a 14nm LPE (low power early) process in the first half of 2015 and then push ahead with a 14nm LPP (low power plus) process in the second half of the year. Based on chip design projects commissioned by our clients, we believe a number of clients will produce wafer starts using 14nm LPE process initially. However, we expect the number of clients as well as wafer orders to grow robustly when we enter the 14nm LPP process, which will help ramp up our market share and sales significantly."
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#68
Xuper
oxidizedTook me about 5 mins

Here after I Uninstalled Crimson 17.3.1 ( XFX 290 double dissipation)



Win7.I don't know about Win10.
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#69
TheoneandonlyMrK
ShurikN"We plan to begin volume production with a 14nm LPE (low power early) process in the first half of 2015 and then push ahead with a 14nm LPP (low power plus) process in the second half of the year. Based on chip design projects commissioned by our clients, we believe a number of clients will produce wafer starts using 14nm LPE process initially. However, we expect the number of clients as well as wafer orders to grow robustly when we enter the 14nm LPP process, which will help ramp up our market share and sales significantly."
Extracted from where????????? Says who?????
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#71
Fx
siluro818I really fail to see what is the point of this particular rebrand...
It is using yesterday's proven, mature, cost-effective technology to provide an expected level of performance without having to utilize today's technology which is more cost prohibitive in relation to what you already have.

It is a smart way to operate from a business perspective especially if you are AMD operating on tight budget with little room for error.
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#72
Super XP
horsemama1956Game changer? I love AMD but the only thing that matters is raw performance to everyone but huge nerds and power usage to some and really doubt Vega is going to trump top end Pascal, let alone anything nVidia has waiting.

Since the VAST majority of PC gamers are going to top out at 1070ish pricing I would like to see AMD make their current offering more efficient. Would be nice to see 480 performance at 120 watts and lower temps, especially the VRMs. I think trying to revolutionize the CPU and GPU space at the same time when you have no money is going to be pretty hard. Polaris was just a sloppy release.

Would be curious to see 470 and 480 performance, temps and power usage with the cards running at 1100-1200.
I get what you are saying, but AMD being cash strapped "MUST" innovate, that's how they survive and that's how they've survived for many years now. Purely by Innovation and cost effective products. But with unique innovations injected into those products.

Intel, with piles of cash can afford failure. AMD cannot.
I only say Game Changer about VEGA because it looks very impressive. But I have a suspicion, in order to utilize VEGA to its fullest extent, it may need special specific programing. Because it's quite different from what's out today ATM.

Those that are familiar with programming and coding may have better in site.
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#73
oxidized
behrouzHere after I Uninstalled Crimson 17.3.1 ( XFX 290 double dissipation)



Win7.I don't know about Win10.
????
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#74
medi01
Microsoft revealed hardware used by Xbox Scorpio.
On GPU side of things it is a 16nm TSMC (woot) 40 CU (480 is 36) GPU.

Very puzzled I am.
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#75
Captain_Tom
Super XPIn that respect, I agree. Any $150-$250 Radeon card can pound any PC Game in 1080p at 60-100Hz.
AMD usually holds the best Prices Performance crown. VEGA, based on what we've been told, will be the GPU game changer. Will be what Fury X was suppose to have been.
Yeah that's my understanding as well.


Actually on an interesting note: I think I read an article that dissected how Polaris had a bigger die than it needed to be, but that was likely to make it have good yields.

It really seems like AMD truly built Polaris to be an incredibly cheap-to-produce Mid-High End gaming family, and then Vega will be the densely packed enthusiast line.
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