Wednesday, August 9th 2017
More Details Surface on Coffee Lake Lineup: i3-8350K, i3-8100 Specs Leaked Again
It appears that Intel's response to AMD's Ryzen desktop processors will be quite a departure from the norm for the blue company. That Ryzen CPUs with their price points are a disruptive piece of silicon is a well-known fact by now. However much we knew that, though, it appears that Intel really is giving a bold (some might say necessary) response to Ryzen's threat to their immutable (for so many years) CPU lineup.
There has already been a leak for the i3-8350K and i3-8100 CPUs for Coffee Lake; this second one comes more as a confirmation of what image was already forming in our minds. And it seems that Intel really is relegating their four-core, four-thread processors to the i3 tier, thus dropping its entire lineup by a rung. Some questions remain regarding Intel's i5 lineup: likely, entry-level processors of this tier ship with four cores and HyperThreading enabled. It's expected that some i5 models will carry six physical cores (absent of HyperThreading), though. This means Intel's clean segmentation, which started with Nehalem almost a decade ago (on the 45 nm process; do you remember that?) has been brought to an end. It also means my puny i5 will now be relegated to i3 territory, but that's... Life.
Sources:
PTT, via Videocardz
There has already been a leak for the i3-8350K and i3-8100 CPUs for Coffee Lake; this second one comes more as a confirmation of what image was already forming in our minds. And it seems that Intel really is relegating their four-core, four-thread processors to the i3 tier, thus dropping its entire lineup by a rung. Some questions remain regarding Intel's i5 lineup: likely, entry-level processors of this tier ship with four cores and HyperThreading enabled. It's expected that some i5 models will carry six physical cores (absent of HyperThreading), though. This means Intel's clean segmentation, which started with Nehalem almost a decade ago (on the 45 nm process; do you remember that?) has been brought to an end. It also means my puny i5 will now be relegated to i3 territory, but that's... Life.
16 Comments on More Details Surface on Coffee Lake Lineup: i3-8350K, i3-8100 Specs Leaked Again
Long live socket 1366......:peace:
As it stands this will not be a complete response unless the i3-K = $130, i5-K = $200, and i7-K = $300.
Not to mention just meeting AMD is not good enough anymore. Ryzen has rave reviews, uses less energy, and comes with higher quality and cheaper motherboards.
Most importantly though, Intel has to plan for the future. Ryzen is just the first wave of Zen 1 products, there will be many more to come. After all Zen 2 is supposed to have at least 10% higher clocks and 15% higher IPC (and it will likely come 6 months after Coffee Lake).
4c/8t Ryzen "STOMPING" i3 4c/4t? Maybe but not stomping.
"Rave Reviews"? Questionable.
Uses less energy? Nope.
Come with higher quality motherboards. Nope.
Cheaper. Maybe.
"After all Zen 2 is supposed to have at least 10% higher clocks and 15% higher IPC (and it will likely come 6 months after Coffee Lake)" -LOL, we all can dream.
Enjoy watching Intel's significantly more expensive and power hungry chips tie AMD's "Glued together" design.
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1400/20.html
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_3_1300X/18.html
Comparing intel's HEDT platform to AMD's non-HEDT for power consumption is a false premise.
Want an example of the opposite? Recent Threadripper benches show the 16-core clocking to 4.1 GHz on a AIO cooler. That is a 16-core clocking higher than almost any other Ryzen on the market. It's because AMD saves the best CCX's for the top chips. An R3 vs an i5 is the most extreme example you can think of.
Now go compare the 7700K (A bloody quad-core) using more energy than the 1800X lol.
Could you post the power consumption numbers of that OC?
Comparing a VERY high clocked 4 core to a moderately clocked 8 core in order to compare their architectural efficiencies is useless. Processors have an efficiency sweet spot and they'll start to consume FAR more power after that point. Simply compare the non-k 7700 to 7700k and you'll see the massive jump.
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-i7-7700-i5-7600k-i5-7600,4870-9.html
Binned dies don't consume that much less power compared to non-binned ones as you think, but ok, let's compare 1500x to i5 7600k:
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1500X/17.html
The 7600k is clocked higher and still consumes less and performs faster in most tests except for a few multi-threaded ones where 1500x's SMT has an impact. Also, take note that SMT's power impact is very small, 2-3 watts max.