Friday, June 29th 2018

Due to Reduced Demand, Graphics Cards Prices to Decline 20% in July - NVIDIA Postponing Next Gen Launch?

DigiTimes, citing "sources from the upstream supply chain", is reporting an expected decrease in graphics card pricing for July. This move comes as a way for suppliers to reduce the inventory previously piled in expectation of continued demand from cryptocurrency miners and gamers in general. It's the economic system at work, with its strengths and weaknesses: now that demand has waned, somewhat speculative price increases of yore are being axed by suppliers to spur demand. This also acts as a countermeasure to an eventual flow of graphics cards from ceasing-to-be miners to the second-hand market, which would further place a negative stress on retailers' products.

Alongside this expected 20% retail price drop for graphics cards, revenue estimates for major semiconductor manufacturer TSMC and its partners is being revised towards lower than previously-projected values, as demand for graphics and ASIC chips is further reduced. DigiTimes' sources say that the worldwide graphics card market now has an inventory of several million units that is being found hard to move (perhaps because the products are already ancient in the usual hardware tech timeframes), and that Nvidia has around a million GPUs still pending logistical distribution. Almost as an afterthought, DigiTimes also adds that NVIDIA has decided to postpone launch of their next-gen products (both 12 nm and then, forcibly, 7 nm) until supply returns to safe levels.
Source: Digi Times
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67 Comments on Due to Reduced Demand, Graphics Cards Prices to Decline 20% in July - NVIDIA Postponing Next Gen Launch?

#51
HTC
This just in: due to a certain "water hazard" graphic cards prices will not only not decline but actually increase by 40% ... :rolleyes:
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#52
Serggioc
You guys keep describing hypothetical scenarios...that are just that, hypothetical. and you don't know what will happen.
So at this point I'll Just keep waiting for new graphics cards to build a new pc, I won't buy anything less than 1180 and I won't pay more than the MSRP of the current 1080ti.
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#53
Totally
HTCIt was a joke post, dude: perhaps i should have used ":rolleyes:"
Oh then I'll delete
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#54
ppn
SerggiocI won't buy anything less than 1180 and I won't pay more than the MSRP of the current 1080ti.
1170/80 is the replacement of 1080ti so why pay the same as 16 months old card. GTX 780 went down from 700 to 500$ and then 300$. Would you still pay 700$ MSRP for GTX 970. no you pay half. So 700$ buys you a pair of 1080ti/1170 for SLI if you think about it. Do not settle for anything less. 7nm is delivering more than double density that of 14nm so 484 square mm is shrinked to 242 barely enough to put 256 bit memory, that is GTX 1060 territory. You can't make this shit up.
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#55
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
ppn1170/80 is the replacement of 1080ti
No, just no. They 1180 will outperform a 1080Ti, and 1170 May or may not...it has only happened once.

Finally, the most important “no” is that they don’t replace the 1080Ti. They replace the 1070 and 1080 in the lineup.

1080Ti gets replaced by, you guessed it, the 1180Ti. You need to stop confusing performance with placement in the product stack.
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#56
ppn
Outperform then. Usually 70 overclocks very close to 80 levels so custom cards will be delivering out of the box. The point is that If nvidia are lowering the prices they are telling us where the new performance per dollar is going to be. But new gen will have to coexist with the old to be shure not to be getting a bad deal.
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#57
Totally
ppnOutperform then. Usually 70 overclocks very close to 80 levels so custom cards will be delivering out of the box. The point is that If nvidia are lowering the prices they are telling us where the new performance per dollar is going to be. But new gen will have to coexist with the old to be shure not to be getting a bad deal.
That is also a false arguement as an ##80 can also be overclocked.
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#58
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
As this is a news piece I will go off topic slightly, well technically since I am thinking there maybe possible new NVidia card discounts this may not be strictly not off topic :oops: I have not bought a GPU for more than 3 years, my last 3 cards have been AMD so I want to try the green side for a change, I currently have a 290X, it's still going strong but I "want" to upgrade, I only play a couple of games (more time than anything), I have been thinking if I want a minimum 20% performance improvement that I will need to go 1070, anyone not agree with me? Happy to be convinced that a 1060 6GB with a healthy overclock will do! Should mention I game on an Ultrawide panel 2560 x 1080.

In order to stay on topic, I will buy the card this month if I see prices drop :)
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#59
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
Tatty_OneAs this is a news piece I will go off topic slightly, well technically since I am thinking there maybe possible new NVidia card discounts this may not be strictly not off topic :oops: I have not bought a GPU for more than 3 years, my last 3 cards have been AMD so I want to try the green side for a change, I currently have a 290X, it's still going strong but I "want" to upgrade, I only play a couple of games (more time than anything), I have been thinking if I want a minimum 20% performance improvement that I will need to go 1070, anyone not agree with me? Happy to be convinced that a 1060 6GB with a healthy overclock will do! Should mention I game on an Ultrawide panel 2560 x 1080.

In order to stay on topic, I will buy the card this month if I see prices drop :)
Of the two, if that is your goal, then you want a 1070. No way would I advise someone who holds on to a card three generations to get a 1060. :)
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#60
ppn
TotallyThat is also a false arguement as an ##80 can also be overclocked.
Wasn't making an argument just stating a fact. And all 80TI so far have been beaten or matched by next gen 70. 780Ti by GTX 970, and 980TI by 1070. And all 670, 970, 1070 when overclocked could reach -+6% of their higher end 680, 980, 1080 part based on the same chip. Whether 1080 can also be overclocked is irrelevant to what Im saying.
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#61
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
ppnWasn't making an argument just stating a fact. And all 80TI so far have been beaten or matched by next gen 70. 780Ti by GTX 970, and 980TI by 1070. And all 670, 970, 1070 when overclocked could reach -+6% of their higher end 680, 980, 1080 part based on the same chip. Whether 1080 can also be overclocked is irrelevant to what Im saying.
:roll:Just....no. The 970 was not a 780Ti beater. It was a 780 beater. As I said earlier, the first time this happened was the 1070. :nutkick:
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#62
ppn
Tpu results look it up. It is -3%, and I don't care if it were +-6% FPS. Later with new drivers it got much worse. Optimisations. Now in case of 1170 12NM it will be much slower than TI I agree but 1180 could possibly be having same spec as Ti, so again if 1070 oc can reach 1080 stock, im just expecting the same of 1170. 7NM with 25% overclock brings it very close to -5%. With Probably better implemented DX12 in hardware and tensor.
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#63
Bones
Tatty_OneAs this is a news piece I will go off topic slightly, well technically since I am thinking there maybe possible new NVidia card discounts this may not be strictly not off topic :oops: I have not bought a GPU for more than 3 years, my last 3 cards have been AMD so I want to try the green side for a change, I currently have a 290X, it's still going strong but I "want" to upgrade, I only play a couple of games (more time than anything), I have been thinking if I want a minimum 20% performance improvement that I will need to go 1070, anyone not agree with me? Happy to be convinced that a 1060 6GB with a healthy overclock will do! Should mention I game on an Ultrawide panel 2560 x 1080.

In order to stay on topic, I will buy the card this month if I see prices drop :)
I'm largely in the same boat, it's been awhile since I've bought a new card. The last one I got myself is a Strix 380X and it's been good, esp for my use. I don't have much of anything that's demanding on a card going on here, it was more of a viability thing when I got it.
I'd like to grab an upgrade soon myself and thinking if I do, I know I can wait and see what comes around and for how much.
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#64
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
RaevenlordDigiTimes' sources say that the worldwide graphics card market now has an inventory of several million units that is being found hard to move
Yeah, that would delay the release of next gen cards all right and that sucks.
I'm gonna buy most of that stock so that my fellow gamers can buy next gen cards at great prices and really enjoy the benefits of the new technology. :toast:
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#65
enxo218
Hope the price PLUMMETS to clear stock i really want a 1070 so i will wait but the suspicion of the act of product widtholding from nvidia disgusts and annoys me, market manipulation is a monopolistic priviledge
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#66
John Naylor
Ok it's time to stop believing in the Easter Bunny, and cookies being made by elves in side tree trunks. Corporations by law, are required to maximize profits , Failure to do so is malfeasance. So only 2 things will require the card manufacturers and every one else down the sales choice to lower costs:

1. AMD comes out with even a semblance of competition.
2. Customers stop buying

The consumer has control over only one of those options.
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#67
Prince Valiant
rtwjunkie:roll:Just....no. The 970 was not a 780Ti beater. It was a 780 beater. As I said earlier, the first time this happened was the 1070. :nutkick:
Good to see I'm not the only one wondering why everyone expects Nvidia to repeat the fluke that was the 1K series. I'm beginning to wonder if they have anything beyond the Titan V ready.
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