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More Clarity on 9th Gen Core Processor Pricing Emerges
Intel is debuting its first wave of 9th generation Core desktop processors with three models later this year - the 6-core/6-thread Core i5-9600K, the 8-core/8-thread Core i7-9700K, and the 8-core/16-thread Core i9-9900K. We've been very curious about how the entry of the Core i9 extension to the mainstream-desktop LGA1151 platform would affect pricing of the Core i5 and Core i7 K-series SKUs, especially given that the i7-9700K is the first Core i7 SKU in a decade to lack HyperThreading. An updated catalog by a major Singapore-based PC components distributor adds more clarity.
Singapore-based PC component distributor BizGram, in its latest catalog, disclosed the all-inclusive retail prices of the three new processors. As Redditor Dylan522p suggests, if you do the SGD-USD conversion and subtract all taxes, you get ominous-looking SEP prices for the three. Intel could price the Core i5-9600K at USD $249.99. The Core i7-9700K could be priced at $349.99. The flagship Core i9-9900K could go for $449.99. These seem like highly plausible pre-tax launch prices for the three chips, and fit into the competitive landscape.At $250, the Core i5-9600K could blunt the slight price-performance edge the Ryzen 5 2600X has over the current i5-8600K, with its 2-3% performance increment. An early review of the Core i7-9700K is already out, which suggests that it could emerge the ultimate gaming CPU, with multi-threaded performance trading blows with the Ryzen 7 2700X. The Core i9-9900K could entice enthusiasts and quasi pro-sumers with its 16 MB L3 cache and 16-thread multi-threaded advantage. Given that AMD sought $499 for the Ryzen 7 1800X at launch, $450 seems only fair.
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Singapore-based PC component distributor BizGram, in its latest catalog, disclosed the all-inclusive retail prices of the three new processors. As Redditor Dylan522p suggests, if you do the SGD-USD conversion and subtract all taxes, you get ominous-looking SEP prices for the three. Intel could price the Core i5-9600K at USD $249.99. The Core i7-9700K could be priced at $349.99. The flagship Core i9-9900K could go for $449.99. These seem like highly plausible pre-tax launch prices for the three chips, and fit into the competitive landscape.At $250, the Core i5-9600K could blunt the slight price-performance edge the Ryzen 5 2600X has over the current i5-8600K, with its 2-3% performance increment. An early review of the Core i7-9700K is already out, which suggests that it could emerge the ultimate gaming CPU, with multi-threaded performance trading blows with the Ryzen 7 2700X. The Core i9-9900K could entice enthusiasts and quasi pro-sumers with its 16 MB L3 cache and 16-thread multi-threaded advantage. Given that AMD sought $499 for the Ryzen 7 1800X at launch, $450 seems only fair.
147 Comments on More Clarity on 9th Gen Core Processor Pricing Emerges
The reason Intel used solder on the new parts is not because you guys yelled for it for years, its because Coffee Lake 6 cores run into thermal thresholds and the only way to facilitate 8 cores at those clocks is a more reliable heat transfer.
It has absolutely ZERO to do with getting the last 100 mhz out of your chip. If you haven't got the memo yet, Intel has effectively locked the OC headroom down to what they consider feasible under the hood - you run into voltage and/or thermal thresholds anyway long before you get a noticeable performance boost. And with 9th gen and its higher boost out of the box, that has only become more true than ever. Hell, they even test the voltages for every multiplier for you.
Some perspective to think about. And this is also why I consider solder not to be an 'improvement' of sorts, its just a necessity. Coffee Lake was pushing it on the old TIM, but it is still 'sufficient'. It won't be long before Intel K-CPUs are just like Ryzen X CPUs: they OC out of the box and all you really get is a guarantee of the highest clocks in a product stack.
Still I look forward to seeing the reviews and then thinking I made the right choice with what I paid for my 1700X's I'd bought.. I do find there's a lot of 'hate' between Intel and AMD products with people but I'm unsure why that is.. I'm sure we can all agree there good and bad points with both CPUs and just leave it there :)
Better we stop it here because i am not feeling well and that's not a good sign;)
Solder is only an improvement when your not paying for it - which in this case you are.
On the other hand tho @Knoxx29 , does that mean you'd consider an AMD CPU?? (I'm kidding ;) :laugh:)
Dont get me wrong; I prefer solder too, but its benefits are grossly overrated. As is the benefit of running far below max temp - it doesnt do jack shit. No they dont turbo longer. MSDT intel K chips run full power or go thermal shutdown. There is no throttling in between at lower frequency like there is on laptop CPUs.
They also dont turbo higher - that only happens if you OC them yourself.
Where did you even get this info anyway... its been like this for years., stop spreading BS
Intel Turbo is only managed and adjusted by active core count.
Clock adjustments through speedstep and C states are related to load and idle times. Nowhere does any of it relate to temperature. Intel still uses a pretty archaic form of "boost", really. Its miles behind something like AMDs XFR
There's a number of benefits to running 60c compared to 80c (in this case, thanks to a hypothetical delid/alternative solder option where all other parameters remain the same, e.g. the chip is still generating the same heat). Many overclockers have reported stability issues that seem to relate to high temperatures. GPU boost also kinda supports this theory, given the number of users that have mentioned Pascal's low thermal "throttling" threshold (not really throttling like an overheating CPU, but there's a low temp ceiling set where it begins to affect GPU boost). Then there's the theory that hardware will last longer the cooler it runs; I remember reading lifespan is doubled for every 10c cooler the component is. Then there's the fact that, though the chip generates the same amount of heat still, crappy thermal transfer thanks to Jergens thermal paste impedes thermal transfer, so there's more heat sitting around in the case than there would be if it were soldered (or delidded). Well, it could at the very least turbo longer if sufficient cooling is in place, before "turbo" conditions send your CPU to thermal throttling land...