Wednesday, October 31st 2018
NVIDIA Confirms Issues Cropping Up With Turing-based Cards, "It's Not a Broad Issue"
It has been been making the rounds now on various forum sites (including our own TPU) that problems have been cropping up for users of NVIDIA's Turing-based architecture graphics cards. The reports, which are increasing in number as awareness of the issue increases, vary in their manifestation, but have the same result: "crashes, black screens, blue screen of death issues, artifacts and cards that fail to work entirely," as reported by the original Digital Trends piece.
Of course, at the time, problems with the source for the information were too great to properly discern whether or not this issue stood beyond the usual launch issues and failures that can (and will happen) to any kind of hardware. The fact that people with negative experiences would always be more vocal than those without any problem; the fact that some accounts on the reported forums were of doubtful intent; and that the same user could be posting across multiple forums would always put a stop to any serious measurement of the issue. Now, though, NVIDIA has come out with a statement regarding the issue, which at least recognizes its existence.
Problems have been cropping up with both NVIDIA-made and AIB cards from various manufacturers, which seemingly rejects the possibility for manufacturer-based issues, and leaves on the table either an architectural or manufacturing batch issue (no confirmations yet). Let's hope this really is confined to a batch issue, though there have been multiple reports of users that got their cards RMA'd and then got one or two replacements that met ther same fate). The issue seems to be affecting owners of the flagship RTX 2080 Ti the most, though there are reports of 2080 models being affected as well.
In response, NVIDIA acknowledges the issue, but limits its relevance: as reported by Tom's Hardware, the company said that "it's not an increasing number of users" affected by this problem, saying "it's not broad." It then added that "we are working with each user individually like we do always." We're here to wait and see, but this definitely doesn't do any favors in grabbing more sales for the RTX 20-series, when the flagship graphics card costing over $1,000 fails on users.
Sources:
GeeksULTD, via Tom's Hardware, GeForce Forums, GeForce Forums, Forbes, TechPowerupForums
Of course, at the time, problems with the source for the information were too great to properly discern whether or not this issue stood beyond the usual launch issues and failures that can (and will happen) to any kind of hardware. The fact that people with negative experiences would always be more vocal than those without any problem; the fact that some accounts on the reported forums were of doubtful intent; and that the same user could be posting across multiple forums would always put a stop to any serious measurement of the issue. Now, though, NVIDIA has come out with a statement regarding the issue, which at least recognizes its existence.
127 Comments on NVIDIA Confirms Issues Cropping Up With Turing-based Cards, "It's Not a Broad Issue"
I like to have fun on forums (well, here, it easy to fire up this crowd of 'enthusiasts', LOL), but I think it has gone too far with that thread and poll.
and there are people reporting dead gpus and getting a faulty one as replacement,as well as those who had a broken gpu and recieved money return instead of a replacement.
so far the poll suggests 100% LOL ..... you cant argue with the numbers
make of it what you will
at least i admit from start i voted ...
make your voice heard BY voting :)
Enjoy that beer
NVidia will of course deny everything. That's what their corp PR department is for. Never admit a problem until proven wrong and even then minimize it's importance. That's how corporations play the game, Nvidia is no different. Their responsability lies with shareholders not consumers.
Oye....
If more consumers reject this price base RTX would've been DoA, same as Intel's top end or everything Apple.
2. 1080Ti boost clock is 1582 MHz vs 2080 Ti is 1635 (or 1545 MHz for reference 2080 Ti - even LOWER!!!)
3. 1080Ti to 2080Ti = 25% more performance overall (give or take) with clocks that are ~3.3% higher.....
Good call...:wtf:
Not an impressive achievement in my eyes. Especially when considering the price.
Clocks are actually similar, etc.ON that point, which was never part of mcraygsx's post to which I responded to, that is correct.
267W vs 289W (8% difference in gaming LESS in Furmark but who in their right mind furmarks) and 25% better results..........so, THANKS! :)
I mean are you really trying to convey that 8% is "A LOT" more power??? Even against a performance increase of 25% (1440+ resolutions)? I mean, I can't fight that nonsense....Speaking in code isn't helping. What did I miss in an apples to apples comparison? You are aware that there is an FE model and a Reference model from NVIDIA with different specs, right?
www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2080-ti/
I used the whitepaper values of the cards... this is real world testing and will vary from test to test.
Stick with me peeps or be clear in sharing what I am missing here!
Fact: users with issues are often very vocal, contrary to users who just bought their shit, didn't have issues and lived happily ever after
Fact: we don't know how many bad cards are out there compared to good cards
Fact: we don't know how many good cards are out there that will suffer an untimely failure
So, it's too early to tell whether it's a massive issue or not. All we can do is speculate. I speculate that nVidia wouldn't push a large number of bad cards out the door. That would lead to a lot of unhappy customers, bad PR, additional costs involved with all those RMAs... it wouldn't be very wise.
Thank you, thank you Hat!!!!!