Wednesday, June 12th 2019
NVIDIA's SUPER Tease Rumored to Translate Into an Entire Lineup Shift Upwards for Turing
NVIDIA's SUPER teaser hasn't crystallized into something physical as of now, but we know it's coming - NVIDIA themselves saw to it that our (singularly) collective minds would be buzzing about what that teaser meant, looking to steal some thunder from AMD's E3 showing. Now, that teaser seems to be coalescing into something amongst the industry: an entire lineup upgrade for Turing products, with NVIDIA pulling their chips up one rung of the performance chair across their entire lineup.
Apparently, NVIDIA will be looking to increase performance across the board, by shuffling their chips in a downward manner whilst keeping the current pricing structure. This means that NVIDIA's TU106 chip, which powered their RTX 2070 graphics card, will now be powering the RTX 2060 SUPER (with a reported core count of 2176 CUDA cores). The TU104 chip, which power the current RTX 2080, will in the meantime be powering the SUPER version of the RTX 2070 (a reported 2560 CUDA cores are expected to be onboard), and the TU102 chip which powered their top-of-the-line RTX 2080 Ti will be brought down to the RTX 2080 SUPER (specs place this at 8 GB GDDR6 VRAM and 3072 CUDA cores). This carves the way for an even more powerful SKU in the RTX 2080 Ti SUPER, which should be launched at a later date. Salty waters say the RTX 2080 Ti SUPER will feature and unlocked chip which could be allowed to convert up to 300 W into graphics horsepower, so that's something to keep an eye - and a power meter on - for sure. Less defined talks suggest that NVIDIA will be introducing an RTX 2070 Ti SUPER equivalent with a new chip as well.
This means that NVIDIA will be increasing performance by an entire tier across their Turing lineup, thus bringing improved RTX performance to lower pricing brackets than could be achieved with their original 20-series lineup. Industry sources (independently verified) have put it forward that NVIDIA plans to announce - and perhaps introduce - some of its SUPER GPUs as soon as next week.
Should these new SKUs dethrone NVIDIA's current Turing series from their current pricing positions, and increase performance across the board, AMD's Navi may find themselves thrown into a chaotic market that they were never meant to be in - the RT 5700 XT for $449 features performance that's on par or slightly higher than NVIDIA's current RTX 2070 chip, but the SUPER version seems to pack in just enough more cores to offset that performance difference and then some, whilst also offering raytracing.
Granted, NVIDIA's TU104 chip powering the RTX 2080 does feature a grand 545 mm² area, whilst AMD's RT 5700 XT makes do with less than half that at 251 mm² - barring different wafer pricing for the newer 7 nm technology employed by AMD's Navi, this means that AMD's dies are cheaper to produce than NVIDIA's, and a price correction for AMD's lineup should be pretty straightforward whilst allowing AMD to keep healthy margins.
Sources:
WCCFTech, Videocardz
Apparently, NVIDIA will be looking to increase performance across the board, by shuffling their chips in a downward manner whilst keeping the current pricing structure. This means that NVIDIA's TU106 chip, which powered their RTX 2070 graphics card, will now be powering the RTX 2060 SUPER (with a reported core count of 2176 CUDA cores). The TU104 chip, which power the current RTX 2080, will in the meantime be powering the SUPER version of the RTX 2070 (a reported 2560 CUDA cores are expected to be onboard), and the TU102 chip which powered their top-of-the-line RTX 2080 Ti will be brought down to the RTX 2080 SUPER (specs place this at 8 GB GDDR6 VRAM and 3072 CUDA cores). This carves the way for an even more powerful SKU in the RTX 2080 Ti SUPER, which should be launched at a later date. Salty waters say the RTX 2080 Ti SUPER will feature and unlocked chip which could be allowed to convert up to 300 W into graphics horsepower, so that's something to keep an eye - and a power meter on - for sure. Less defined talks suggest that NVIDIA will be introducing an RTX 2070 Ti SUPER equivalent with a new chip as well.
Should these new SKUs dethrone NVIDIA's current Turing series from their current pricing positions, and increase performance across the board, AMD's Navi may find themselves thrown into a chaotic market that they were never meant to be in - the RT 5700 XT for $449 features performance that's on par or slightly higher than NVIDIA's current RTX 2070 chip, but the SUPER version seems to pack in just enough more cores to offset that performance difference and then some, whilst also offering raytracing.
126 Comments on NVIDIA's SUPER Tease Rumored to Translate Into an Entire Lineup Shift Upwards for Turing
This looks like a good refresh, though one that will eat significantly into Nvidia's (admittedly enormous) margins if prices shuffle down as reported placing the new cards where the old ones used to be. Selling a TU102 die for TU104 prices has to sting, not to mention TU104 at TU106 prices. These are huge chips, after all. Will be an interesting battle against Navi.
Besides, it's still the same slab of silicon whether it's fully functional or not.
It would irk me, But ,Tbf soo what, They are companies and regardless of when you upgrade it always feels like 3 months, and then something EVEN shinier is out with more RGB, puns intended:):p
Im still a bit grumpy about vega II , I sware I had my vega 64 two minutes.
It is same die with new parts enable which should have been enabled from the begening. 12nm(16nm) was quite mature when it was released.
It like Nvidia's fine wine. [Though mokes AMDs fine wine]
Price cuts without actually cutting prices.
Nvidia is effectively slashing the price of the 2080ti, 2080 and 2070 by $500, $200, and $150 respectively.
Man I hope this is true, this news has made my day. I'm going to run over nvidia forums with popcorn and watch as the entitled people slowly wizen up to what Nvidia has done and start crying. I imagine it's going to be Titan Pascal dumpster fire all over again, would have been awesome if they did this at the 6mo mark.
Imo Nvidia is simply moving their existent SKUs one tier down in price wich is probably what the pricing would had been from the getgo ( had AMD been able to compete ) and is only making 1 new chip to replace TU102 as a flagship product . Honestly i hardly see them calling those GPUs Super for such a small core count bump it has to be more than this .
Beside it makes perfect sense to sell existent SKUs at a lower price point ( read not inflated price since they are probably still going to make a good margin ) since it will allow them to boost sale volumes , please investors and make room for next year 7nm new dies .
Marketing at its finest, any RTX owners SUPER happy about their now devalued card?
Personally i buy whatever fits my needs and wallet i care about products not brands !
Win win for the consumer.
Even better, don´t buy anything, because there´s always something better coming, wait until the end of times and buy the ultimate latest stuff.Even if we only had nvidia, the more products, the better.
Im fine with what I have, I wont go on, first world problems.
Im never, ever fine with paying the price of a whole mainstream low end PC on a Gpu($1200)
That too I suppose is a stupid personal stand.
wccftech.com/exclusive-nvidias-super-gpus-unleashing-monsters/amp/
Of course, you can always wait and get something newer and faster. But that will always be true. Should people not buy Zen 2 processors, because Zen 3 will be coming down the road, not to mention Zen 4 or 5?
Nvidia is launching a new range of laptops with GTX 16 Series gpus. They refer to them as "16: The New Supercharger".
They were meant to launch at the end April but apparently there's been some delay.
LINK:
www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/gaming-laptops/gtx-1660-ti/?nvid=nv-int-1h-82351#cid=Internal_GEFORCE_UK_20190423_1660ti_laptop_Launch_CORPWMFG
Nvidia first said Computex, At Computex they said E3 so far nothing with 1 day to go.
The stupid stand is to not buy from X or Y company for some ideological reason . The only thing companies care about is your wallet and that applies to all companies so why should you care about any company instead of the actual product you paying for that's the point im trying to make , but hey to each his own i guess !To my knowledge TPU article is based on wccftech ''rumors '' and that has been confirmed by Videocardz ( the existance of RTX Super not exact specs ) so yeah that makes those '' rumors '' pretty solid .