Wednesday, August 7th 2019
AMD's Latest AGESA Update Removes PCIe 4.0 Support from Pre-X570 Motherboards
AMD's latest AGESA update, which is being seeded to motherboard manufacturers, culls efforts to implement support for PCIe 4.0 in boards not carrying the latest X570 chipset. Some motherboard manufacturers had enabled support for the new standard on existing B450 and X470 motherboards - some with limited support, as was the case on some of ASUS' motherboards, others with full support. However, these efforts from motherboard manufacturers went against AMD's strategy with their X570 platform - all in all, these "rogue additions" reduced one additional feature of new X570 motherboards over their older counterparts.
The new AGESA code carries the part number AM4 1.0.0.3 ABB, and will likely be reflected in manufacturers' release notes for new BIOS versions that incorporate the code - and remove added PCIe 4.0 functionality. Other changes in this AGESA code release include fixes for Destiny 2 gamers' woes, which were having a hard time getting the game to run properly on Ryzen 3000 processors. If you're an avid Destiny 2 player and want PCIe 4.0 support, you'll likely be reminded of Rick and Morty's pickle episode. If not, you can always defer these AM4 1.0.0.3 ABB updates, if your system is behaving properly.
Source:
PC Games Hardware.de
The new AGESA code carries the part number AM4 1.0.0.3 ABB, and will likely be reflected in manufacturers' release notes for new BIOS versions that incorporate the code - and remove added PCIe 4.0 functionality. Other changes in this AGESA code release include fixes for Destiny 2 gamers' woes, which were having a hard time getting the game to run properly on Ryzen 3000 processors. If you're an avid Destiny 2 player and want PCIe 4.0 support, you'll likely be reminded of Rick and Morty's pickle episode. If not, you can always defer these AM4 1.0.0.3 ABB updates, if your system is behaving properly.
143 Comments on AMD's Latest AGESA Update Removes PCIe 4.0 Support from Pre-X570 Motherboards
PCIe 4.0 is for enterprise. It doesn't even matter to end users. AMD took away your bragging point, that's about it. X570 including it is all about PR. PCIe 4.0 support is there for EPYC and maybe Threadripper, the use in a personal desktop is next to nothing.
In other words we are talking about business ethics here , something that community cares alot when it comes to other companies but seems to arbitrary forget when it comes to AMD !
That said, I still do not approve of pulling. Sure as shit I'd throw some shade at Intel so I am going to throw some shade (and a little poo) in AMD's direction over this.
The thread is flecked with comments suggesting people will blame AMD should their non-compliant PCIe 4.0 mobos exhibit faulty behavior while utilizing PCie 4.0, and therefore to just remove the feature.
That isn't the nature of things. When there is an issue with the motherboard, NOBODY blames the chipset maker, especially not newbies. The first port of call is to blame the motherboard manufacturer. Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, ASRock know their products better than AMD. I'm pretty sure AMD wants to make PCIe 4.0 available to only X5xx series and upwards to get those sales.
First of all not only the amount of peoples blaming AMD for MSI issues was tiny compared to those who undertood where the issue was coming from but on top of that there will always be peoples blaming AMD for things they don't understand so how is this a solution to anything ?
Peoples blamed AMD about high voltage on 3000series CPUs ( and they still do ) yet i didn't saw AMD killing their CPUs all together ! Again this argument is nonsense !
a motherboard manufacture should be free to offer whatever they can, if that leads to problems an a product breaks or needs to be replaced, thats on the manufacture to replace/pay for.
kinda hope mobo makers will just look for another work around.
(oh and stop it with all the silly fanboy remarks)
People can make whatever excuses they want, but it´s perfectly clear that this is a money driven decision more than anything else.
It's funny cause reading some of you guys one could believe there are hunderds of threads with peoples complaining about issues they have with PCIe 4.0 on older platforms wich is forcing AMD to give up on supporting it ....... sooooo could you please share some of those issues with us ( there must be dozens of them right ..... ) or are you simply talking about some kind of imaginary issues that could happen in the future if all the planets of the solar system are aligned in order to push your agenda ?Touche !
If it's not in spec you're at their mercy, if AMD says they won't allow it than people have to learn to deal with it.
Only allow it for the top PCIe x16 slot and the closest m.2 slot.
Don't list PCIe 4.0 as a feature on the X470 boards.
If AMD really is all gung-ho about being open and free, they'd have followed that plan.
Only time will tell what X570 hides from us.