Wednesday, August 7th 2019
AMD's Latest AGESA Update Removes PCIe 4.0 Support from Pre-X570 Motherboards
AMD's latest AGESA update, which is being seeded to motherboard manufacturers, culls efforts to implement support for PCIe 4.0 in boards not carrying the latest X570 chipset. Some motherboard manufacturers had enabled support for the new standard on existing B450 and X470 motherboards - some with limited support, as was the case on some of ASUS' motherboards, others with full support. However, these efforts from motherboard manufacturers went against AMD's strategy with their X570 platform - all in all, these "rogue additions" reduced one additional feature of new X570 motherboards over their older counterparts.
The new AGESA code carries the part number AM4 1.0.0.3 ABB, and will likely be reflected in manufacturers' release notes for new BIOS versions that incorporate the code - and remove added PCIe 4.0 functionality. Other changes in this AGESA code release include fixes for Destiny 2 gamers' woes, which were having a hard time getting the game to run properly on Ryzen 3000 processors. If you're an avid Destiny 2 player and want PCIe 4.0 support, you'll likely be reminded of Rick and Morty's pickle episode. If not, you can always defer these AM4 1.0.0.3 ABB updates, if your system is behaving properly.
Source:
PC Games Hardware.de
The new AGESA code carries the part number AM4 1.0.0.3 ABB, and will likely be reflected in manufacturers' release notes for new BIOS versions that incorporate the code - and remove added PCIe 4.0 functionality. Other changes in this AGESA code release include fixes for Destiny 2 gamers' woes, which were having a hard time getting the game to run properly on Ryzen 3000 processors. If you're an avid Destiny 2 player and want PCIe 4.0 support, you'll likely be reminded of Rick and Morty's pickle episode. If not, you can always defer these AM4 1.0.0.3 ABB updates, if your system is behaving properly.
143 Comments on AMD's Latest AGESA Update Removes PCIe 4.0 Support from Pre-X570 Motherboards
And if you buy a 2080 Ti and you can't afford a X570 board, there is an issue. Also once 2080 Ti performance level will be available in mid range budget, it's very probable that you will want to upgrade your computer.
Still a cheap shot from AMD, but still, let recall that AMD is still using the same socket and made her new cpu retro-compatible.
And they were right to do all this. A lot of Sandy Bridge-E chips, especially from the first stepping, simply can't handle PCIe 3.0 reliably and become unstable with it enabled. The same will be true of a lot of these motherboards. Motherboard manufacturers don't care about just enabling features anyway, because 99% of the time they won't be the ones who get the blame. People will blame the CPU or graphics card vendor if they encounter problems, and that's unfair when said vendors have configured their devices for stability, which has then been bypassed unofficially.
This round its the board manufactures that goes against amd and i am not surprized amd react negative to this.
I guess we can kind compared it to intel say i9 9900K would not work on Z370 if i remember correct. And yet some people modified bios and got the cpu to work.
For all the fuzz its just a M2_1 compliance chart. Still missing PCIe 4x16 and the 4x4 to SB
You could say, If you were buying ASUS you were better off buying their lower end stuff.
I've noted sales of the X570 boards hasn't been as good as expected, to me this is just trying to push the newer boards out and onto new customers and some older ones too.
The above makes a good point BUT it is what it is.
This is literally why we can't have nice things.
So if I want PCI-E 4.0 support I'm going to have to spend money on an X570 Chipset Mainboard?!
(oh wait, I was already going to do just that)
Back to our regularly scheduled drama,.....
Their "partners" no doubt want to sell you a new motherboard anyway, if they don't like it, stick with mean old Intel.
The joys of a duopoly.
Thing is PCIe 4.0 is technically possible on 300 and 400 series mobos so AMD has no reason whatsoever to lock it on X570 especialy when board vendors are ok with enabling it on those older platfrorms . End of story !
Besides , again we are not talking about something new here we are talking about a functionality that was already available and well implemented and that AMD is killing off ........... Such as ? OMG maybe it's not about the money but about the business practice ?
( oh wait i forgot we care about this only when it's Intel or Nvidia )
Back to our regularly scheduled double standards ......
but what does this have to do with MSI........moving the goal posts??? lol