Friday, September 27th 2019
China Starts Production of Domestic DRAM Chips
China's semiconductor industry is seeking independence in every sector of its industry, with an emphasis of homemade products for domestic use, especially government facilities, where usage of homegrown products is most desirable. According to the report of China Securities Journal, Chinese firm has started production of DRAM memory.
A company named ChangXin Memory Technology, founded in 2016 to boost domestic silicon production, on Monday started production of DRAM memory, aiming to directly replace the current supply of foreign memory from companies like Micron, SK Hynix and Samsung. Being build using 18 nm technology which ChangXin calls "10-nanometer class" node, this DRAM chip isn't too far behind offers from competitors it tries to replace. Micron, Samsung and SK Hynix use 12, 14, and 16 nm nodes for production of their DRAM chips, so Chinese efforts so far are very good. The company promises to produce around 120.000 wafers per month and plans to deliver first chips by the end of this year.
Source:
TechNode
A company named ChangXin Memory Technology, founded in 2016 to boost domestic silicon production, on Monday started production of DRAM memory, aiming to directly replace the current supply of foreign memory from companies like Micron, SK Hynix and Samsung. Being build using 18 nm technology which ChangXin calls "10-nanometer class" node, this DRAM chip isn't too far behind offers from competitors it tries to replace. Micron, Samsung and SK Hynix use 12, 14, and 16 nm nodes for production of their DRAM chips, so Chinese efforts so far are very good. The company promises to produce around 120.000 wafers per month and plans to deliver first chips by the end of this year.
56 Comments on China Starts Production of Domestic DRAM Chips
Can't comment on their quality since we don't have the sticks to test with but I'm sure they'll be fine. Other computer components are assembled in China so I don't see a problem.
1. Exposure to MNCs determine the product quality level. I witnessed first hand how professional the Chinese can be IF u demand nothing but the Best. One supplier surprised me with a record Quality Level of 1.3ppm ( over 3 yrs record) while the best Western supplier can managed only 8ppm and 240% more expensive.
2. On the other hand, there are customers expect nothing BUT cut throat pricing, there are hundreds of thousands tiny factories are willing to satisfy your expectation.
3. Chinese are not creative, and LAW abiding culture has yet to established; as a result they all cut corners, moving the goal posts whenever possible.
~~~ Long story cut short, if u are HUGE with BIG orders, source from China is a good idea. If u got no levelage, and the penalty is small, just ordinary consumers, think twice if the trouble worth the saving.
2. Contrary to your belief, i'm absolutely sure this company is not interested in price cutting nor selling to ordinary Western consumers.
~~~ Coz THE MONEY COME FROM GOVERNMENT GRANT! Not from the consumers. This kind of strategically important project easily yield billion in government funding, and several billion in bank loan back by the government, before any product is shipped out.
Kan du prata Svenska?Going by your HAHA (instead of HEHE in proper Mandarin) and your family name, u are not Chinese but rather Singaporean or Malaysian.
It's all quite mad, especially as China is still very much a dictatorship and emperor Xi has started to show his true colours over the past couple of years.
Living where I live, you get quite a different insight into things, as it affects you daily life in a much more direct way.
I dread three day when I might have to grab what I can and gtfo of here as quickly as I can, as China had decided they want this island and they're tired of waiting...
And after disassembly of SSD drive it looks like is not even as exotic as I expected. It is just regular SMI controller and regular Micron memory. I don't care if it has Maiguang logo, or Kingston logo, still SMI + Micron inside.
People should understand that many Chinese brands has same OEM manufacturers as regular brands and they are equal in both performance and reliability.
It was really funny when "reviewer" from LinusTechTips explained why not to buy Chinese SSD drive :D There was some performance drops, but they are discussable (I have tested many Chinese SSD and many regular SSD and never saw such big differences in synthetic performance, so these tests looks like a fake ones, but I am not judging, however synthetic performance not always is same as real life tests) and if it really is cheaper (as Linus said, bet real prices are almost the same) slower and cheaper SSD would be really interesting deal. But final explanation sounds like this: Data is the most valuable thing in your PC, that is why you don't want to risk with cheap Chinese SSD. Really? No real reliability issues found and judging by brand? Micron memory is not so reliable in . And don't even try to say that micron make several branches of memory, and lower quality products is given for lower tier manufacturers.
The main problem with Chinese SSDs is that they are using same OEM platforms, that is why they prices are almost the same compared to regular brands. So there is no big deal to buy 42 USD Chinese SSD while regular one costs 45 USD.
BTW some time ago I have found one very interesting SSD drive. It costs same as any budget SSD in the market. However it has MLC memory chips and is much cheaper than regular MLC SSD drives in local stores. So in this case there was ability to choose either Top tier brand TLC drive or Chinese drive based on MLC memory. And it looks like this time buying Chinese drive is a way to get more reliable MLC drive for the same price
THE one and only priority is the Party continue to rule China, Formosa? They can wait, unless severely threatened and in dire need to boost their support among the civilians, they will not use their military.
Rather, their insecurity (national security) has led them to the decision of self-containment at any price. With the objective of winning a prolong warefare should one occur. Hence i was saying they are not interestes in selling to the West, at least not in foreseeable future.
~~~ Chinese DRAM flooding the market? Highly unlikely in next 10 years.
Also, what kind of warranty do you get from these companies? When my Plextor SSD failed, it was replaced on warranty, no questions asked. I doubt Maiguang would give a crap.
Obviously there are only so many manufacturers of SSD controllers, flash memory and DRAM at this point, but it doesn't mean it's all the same quality or that it all comes with the same level of support from the company that sells you a product (directly or indirectly). You got lucky it would seem, but not everyone's that lucky.
The other thing that happens is that a brand uses a Chinese manufacturer to make products for them and that manufacturer then orders more parts, makes more PCBs and sells them under a different brand. This is very easy to do with SSDs, as most are based on reference designs for the controller manufacturers, so it's not hard to get a firmware either.
A lot of Chinese companies are also very good at laser engraving, so you might actually have ended up with something you think is X, but in fact, it's Y. So be careful what you buy, as so many people have been burned. It's simply a fact that a lot of weird Chinese brands aren't trustworthy. Then again, they also sell plenty of fake goods, such as Sandisk memory cards for half the price in China and they're obviously not the real deal.You can beg to differ as much as you want, but this is a daily issue for me. If Taiwan continues to elect leaders that are not pro China, it'll happen sooner, rather than later. Why do you think they're working so hard to isolate Taiwan, not only by removing the few allies Taiwan has, but also by making sure Taiwan is excluded from international organisations, having airlines change the "region" to China, Taiwan, etc. ? They want people to think of Taiwan as Chinese property, which is never has been and hopefully never will be.
Obviously i cannot speak Svenska. BTW are you Swedish?
As a real Chinese,it's more or less sad to see so many “negative” comments about China, more sadly, most of them are true.
Taiwanese needs exaggerate the threats too, otherwise the budget could suffer.
~~ Relax buddy.
Life is just too short for u to worry about events beyond one's control, enjoy life while u can.
I got to worry about these things, as it would end my livelihood and it would mean my SO and get family would be in trouble too.
It is NOT Taiwan that worries Xi, it is the repercussion from enemies from within, Tibet, XinJiang, Korean Pen, Japan and USA; ALL THESE must be put into the whole picture, as i said before, the calculated risks are far greater for anyone to handle,.unless severely threatened.
The demostration is simply unsustainable, it's time to get out when initial demand is met.
2. I think what we are discussing is beyond the scope of this forum, we shall end here.
And yes, we're way off topic by now...