Friday, April 10th 2020
NVIDIA Quietly Refreshes Mobile GeForce RTX Graphics Cards
NVIDIA has recently introduced its GeForce RTX 20-series SUPER mobile graphics cards, with the heap of new features that are present on the new GPU models. According to a report from ComputerBase, NVIDIA has refreshed few of the RTX 20-series mobile GPUs in addition to the previously announced SUPER models. Now there are a few models/variants of these RTX 20-series GPUs. Firstly, there is a standard RTX mobile GPU variant called the "Max-P" version - this represents the RTX 20-series GPUs that were launched initially in January of 2019 and it includes three SKUs like RTX 2060, 2070 and 2080. Secondly, there is a "Max-Q" revision of these graphics cards, meant to bring maximum efficiency. These SKUs are power-limited, so they are a bit slower compared to the regular "Max-P" version, and they have a Total Graphics Power (TGP) between 65 W and 90 W depending on the model.
Next up we have GeForce RTX SUPER 20-series of GPUs that were launched on April 2nd just a few days ago. These GPUs are special because they bring a heap of new features like more CUDA cores, low-power (1.25 V compared to the old 1.35 V) GDDR6 memory, DynamicBoost, and Optimus support. So what are these new, refresh GPUs? On ComputerBase Forums, XMG (laptop maker) representative has revealed that NVIDIA refreshed some of the older RTX 20-series mobile GPU that were already in use.
Namely, the regular GeForce RTX 2060 and RTX 2070 GPUs got the hardware treatment that is the same as the newly announced SUPER lineup. NVIDIA has added a low-power GDDR6 memory to these GPUs and a new regulator. Being that memory uses 20% of TGP alone, the updated GPU SKUs are set to perform higher compared to older variants. Keeping the same CUDA count, the RTX 2060 variant got improved TGP of 115 W, up from 90 W, which should result in significantly bigger boost clocks. This GPU carries an SKU revision number of N18E-G1-B. The refreshed RTX 2070 model is referred to as N18E-G1R GPU, which has the original TGP of 115 W. However, thanks to the lower power VRAM that leaves more space for boost clocks, and this GPU should boost up to 1485 MHz, representing a 45 MHz increase.
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ComputerBase
Next up we have GeForce RTX SUPER 20-series of GPUs that were launched on April 2nd just a few days ago. These GPUs are special because they bring a heap of new features like more CUDA cores, low-power (1.25 V compared to the old 1.35 V) GDDR6 memory, DynamicBoost, and Optimus support. So what are these new, refresh GPUs? On ComputerBase Forums, XMG (laptop maker) representative has revealed that NVIDIA refreshed some of the older RTX 20-series mobile GPU that were already in use.
35 Comments on NVIDIA Quietly Refreshes Mobile GeForce RTX Graphics Cards
...super max customer confusion.
Which line don't you understand? I can explain.
P = Old models (non-super models)
Q = Old models (non-super models) but focused on efficiency
Originally we have:
RTX 2060 (90 W), 2070 (115 W), 2080 (150 W),
RTX 2070 Max-Q (80 W), 2080 Max-Q (80 W)
Now we have:
(with the optimizations)
RTX 2060 (115 W), 2070 (115 W), 2070 Super (115 W), 2080 Super (150 W)
RTX 2060 Max-Q (65 W), 2070 Max-Q (80 W), 2070 Super Max-Q (80 W), 2080 Super Max-Q (80W)
if I understood it correctly
This is an obvious situation where Nvidia could have just bumped the model up, or added a year to the model like Apple does with its MacBooks. I hate this kind of bullshit. This is why I have trust issues.
And it's really annoying as the CPU power throttle passed 1600MHz@750mv
Anyone who buys an RTX 2060 equipped laptop should be just fine for the next 4 years or so.
If you do, however happen to be someone using a laptop as a desktop replacement, you might as well get a 2070 because the 2080 are fireplaces.
For the second, i'm not sure as long as we're close to the next generation of console, and if rumors are true, there could be a leap in term of power and abilities (don't know what's the power of the AMDs RTRT implementation, but if they're looking for 4K, that could be bigger than a simple 2060)
lastly, yeah, i'm a disabled dev and can't work constantly on a desk or a table, so, laptop is the best way to carry my work everywhere at home, the card work great, but with big CPU and GPU, many laptop can't contain the heat of an i7 6/8 core (even with serious throttle), so i've looked for a lower end chip and throw my "really" intensive tasks to my TR workstation remotely managed by this laptop. With mid range performance, i can do almost anything without the WS
They cannot even put the RAM ICs where they should be...
@W1zzard do you think they'd send something to TPU to review at all?
AMD Radeon Pro 560X
AMD Radeon RX 5500
AMD Radeon RX 560
AMD Radeon RX 560X
AMD Radeon RX 580
RX 5600, RX 5700, etc...
www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/ProductCategory/3751F1185674-1185713-1185717-1412255-1746022-2455455.html?sortKey=minPrice
if they start changing the number of cuda cores, the naming scheme is not relevant anymore.
so they should use names like
rtx512 for the 512 cuda cores version...
easier to track
Take a look at Gaming laptops now: $900 or so buys you a Core i7 + 1660Ti.
$1100 or so buys you a 2060.
But if you want a 2070 or 2080, you're spending a whole lot more $1500 - $2500 for a 2070 and $2500 - $4000 in some cases ...or even more.
If you're just playing games on the laptop display, I see no need for more than a 2060.
If you're Youtubbing, Streaming, gaming, developing, etc...then hopefully your jobpays you enough to justify spending this much on a laptop.
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