I think we would all love to say we are very excited for the launch but are we?

Intel clearly pushed all innovation budget towards a new box to put said product in.

Wow.

I don't know if I'd laugh or cry if it turns out that the only real improvement is the new box design.

Feasting the eyes. Hopefully not only eyes. Well, at least the box got some improvements.

What is the point of "future" PCI-Express 4.0 on socket 1200 when they're already planning socket 1700?

JAB CreationsWhat is the point of "future" PCI-Express 4.0 on socket 1200 when they're already planning socket 1700?

That's the future :) Planning :D

Well we all know what a 5Ghz Skylake can do, sooo WOW what a boX...... :D

JalleRWell we all know what a 5Ghz Skylake can do, sooo WOW what a boX...... :D

4 cores, 10 cores, who counts anyway amiright

There's nothing exciting about it really since it is the same architecture and fab that we have seen for few years now. It is expected that it will be faster because of the boost speed, and because most reviewers are using high end cooling solutions, so we won't see any thermal issues that will affect performance as well.

I think the only thing I am interested in is how much more carbon will these "new" processors add to the environment for the sake of squeezing more performance. As it stands now, the power consumption of existing 9th gen can rival that of a server class processor with higher core counts. Intel should be "proud" that they won the most power inefficient processor award in 2019 and 2020.

Dont buy Intel for your work PC, with Intel there is always a chance gaming will just happen.

I see Intel marketing is still conning the public with the premise bigger is better with their Core i naming scheme.
They should be showing number of cores and base speed.

...and I sitting here confused, why i9 and i5 ?
You could do better with i9 and i3, for benchmark disparity of course :D

there is no I3 K version. only K available at launch. And for benchmark distparity there are always I77700, I78700, I99900 instead of I310100, I510400, I710700.

All the tops for every socket of the past years get resurrected now under I3. I5 I7. The spot light is for the 10900 really.

"Gaming Happens With Intel" - :roll:

ZoneDymoDont buy Intel for your work PC, with Intel there is always a chance gaming will just happen.

Oh rest assured these will be bought mostly by Youtuber wannabes for e-peen purposes.

Wow, such innovation... Shame it only applied to the box!

I really hope AMD will do to Intel what usually Intel try to do to them by announcing something about the upcoming AMD CPUs as soon as this cpu gets out of nda or released to the stores.

Caring1I see Intel marketing is still conning the public with the premise bigger is better with their Core i naming scheme.
They should be showing number of cores and base speed.

Wait... if this is a con, what about AMD's naming convention? They dont have anything to do with speed and core count either. And these are better... at least with core count, clock speeds, and price. I doubt we'll see an IPC increase, which is what most hang their hat on.

Although the number of SKUs can be confusing, the move from 9000 series to 10000 series makes sense....regardless of the iterative changes. 9th gen... 10th gen...




Soooooo much Intel hate in this thread....ridiculous.

dj-electric4 cores, 10 cores, who counts anyway amiright

Oh.... yes forgot that not everybody knows........ let me update....

Well we all know what a 5Ghz Coffee lake can do, sooo WOW what a boX...... :D

EarthDogSoooooo much Intel hate in this thread....ridiculous.

I think Intel have earned it.

EarthDogWait... if this is a con, what about AMD's naming convention? They dont have anything to do with speed and core count either. And these are better... at least with core count, clock speeds, and price. I doubt we'll see an IPC increase, which is what most hang their hat on.

Although the number of SKUs can be confusing, the move from 9000 series to 10000 series makes sense....regardless of the iterative changes. 9th gen... 10th gen...
Soooooo much Intel hate in this thread....ridiculous.

Not hating on Intel, I just don't agree with the way they market their product.
Go into an electrical retailer and they always try to upsell or sell based on the fact it is an i7 or i9 etc.
Their own charts are misleading and have been doing it for years.

This style of selling technique is ongoing.

Caring1Not hating on Intel, I just don't agree with the way they market their product.
Go into an electrical retailer and they always try to upsell or sell based on the fact it is an i7 or i9 etc.
Their own charts are misleading and have been doing it for years.

That wasn't towards you specifically, note... just a looooooooooooooooot of Intel hate. :(

What is misleading about that ancient intel slide? C2D is better than Pentium D is better than Celeron. Ryzen 9 is better than Ryzen 7 is better than Ryzen 5 is better than Ryzen 3. An i9 is better than an i7 is better than an i5 just the same, no? What are you seeing I'm not? Again I ask, what makes AMD's naming convention any better? It doesn't meet your criteria either....

In other news, the girl that sends out the kits for review is way hotter than the girl that sent out the Coffee Lake kits. </another_irrelevant_news_piece>

EarthDogThat wasn't towards you specifically, note... just a looooooooooooooooot of Intel hate. :(

What is misleading about that ancient intel slide?

An i9 is better than an i7 in a lot of cases... especially where multi-threading is concerned. What are you seeing I'm not? Again I ask, what makes AMD's naming convention any better? It doesn't meet your criteria either....

I agree neither AMD nor Intel are being truthful in marketing something to the general public that has little understanding of their needs.
A more recent slide has differing segments with "gaming" showing the i9 series chips, yet those that know better could be happy with an i5 or i7.
AMD marketing is virtually non existant here, it's still only sold as a Ryzen 3, 5, or 7 though.

Caring1Not hating on Intel, I just don't agree with the way they market their product.
Go into an electrical retailer and they always try to upsell or sell based on the fact it is an i7 or i9 etc.
Their own charts are misleading and have been doing it for years.

This style of selling technique is ongoing.

On desktop, the naming convention of intel is fine. It's on the mobile market where it's abused, seeing at how little differencs there is between a mobile core i7 and a mobile core i9. At least on desktop the numbers is also indicative of a larger core number.

And Amd mobile naming is even worse in my book. For some mysterious reason, they are choosing an higher first number for their apu/mobile CPU. Ryzen 4800H when it should have been a Ryzen 3800H smh.

But again, tech company are rarely good when it comes to make a simple and clear naming convention. One of the reason that I became interested in tech was to avoid getting swindled by vendors needing to meet a quota. "That pentium D laptop, is far better than that core 2 duo laptop that we don't have in stock anymore".

There's too many peoples who are afraid of tech and don't even try to understand what's behind the numbers, when it's not that hard. If you can read a graph, it's enough to know what to buy, and what to avoid.