Thursday, June 4th 2020

Microsoft's New Chromium Based Edge Browser Now Rolling Out Via Windows Update

Microsoft released the first preview of its overhauled chromium-based edge browser back in January, but users had to navigate to Microsoft's site to install the browser. The new browser will now automatically roll out to versions of Windows 10 from version 1803 onwards, this will mean up to a billion installs of the updated browser. The New Edge browser when installed via windows update completely replaces the previous Edge browser whereas the website install coexists with the existing Edge browser.
Source: Microsoft
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76 Comments on Microsoft's New Chromium Based Edge Browser Now Rolling Out Via Windows Update

#26
T4C Fantasy
CPU & GPU DB Maintainer
I want to switch to edge but I have a habit of clicking chrome, after long times of usage when I close chrome I can't open it back up unless I manually remove process, edge doesn't have this bug afaik.
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#27
cucker tarlson
I gotta check out edge.

edit:slower than firefox,noticeably slower.

will search for updates

edit:can't find them

edit:found it,downloading

edit:updated,looks nice and clean,works fast.might do more with it.
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#28
ARF
MusselsLooking at your specs i can see why 3D GPU acceleration is going to be faster, you've got weak CPU's by todays standards (still perfectly fine for web and video playback)

That said, all these browsers look the same. You've definitely got something unique to you going on with your sharpness issue.
All the browsers look different because it's in their nature to render the contents in a different way and with different settings on the code level.
As proven by the two members after your post.

My CPU is pretty fast for today's standards when most people are still struggling with 2nd and 3rd generation Core i-something.

I can play modern games pretty much maxed out at 2560 x 1440.
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#29
InVasMani
Still a big fan of Mozilla Firefox I tried some of the others and in the past and ended up reverting right back to it because I didn't like them personally. I feel like Mozilla's plugin support is better than Chrome/Edge when I tried them. I also like the Sync option once setup it's great.
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#30
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
InVasManiStill a big fan of Mozilla Firefox I tried some of the others and in the past and ended up reverting right back to it because I didn't like them personally. I feel like Mozilla's plugin support is better than Chrome/Edge when I tried them. I also like the Sync option once setup it's great.
i've got syncing between chrome and edge, which is working great.
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#31
Kaotik
I had to manually install the Crapmium-Edge just so I can later uninstall it, apparently if the Windows Update installs it over your old Edge you can't.

Two biggest annoyances so far:
- Horrible, horrible default fonts (anyone know which the default fonts were in the proper Edge? They were fine but can't seem to find what they exactly are)
- Why the F doesn't cursor jump to the "default dialog" on the webpage automatically? I mean, I write an adress, say, google.com, and press enter. When the page is loaded, the cursor should be in the search bar ready for typing, but instead it's still in the damn address bar (yes, I know you can search from address bar, google was just an example here) - how do I change that?
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#32
windwhirl
KaotikI had to manually install the Crapmium-Edge just so I can later uninstall it, apparently if the Windows Update installs it over your old Edge you can't.

Two biggest annoyances so far:
- Horrible, horrible default fonts (anyone know which the default fonts were in the proper Edge? They were fine but can't seem to find what they exactly are)
- Why the F doesn't cursor jump to the "default dialog" on the webpage automatically? I mean, I write an adress, say, google.com, and press enter. When the page is loaded, the cursor should be in the search bar ready for typing, but instead it's still in the damn address bar (yes, I know you can search from address bar, google was just an example here) - how do I change that?
About your second complaint, I'm not sure. Old Edge, Chromium Edge (in my case, Canary) and Firefox all jumped from the Omnibox/Address bar to Google's search bar when I checked just moments ago...

Default fonts as far as I know are the usual ones in both old Edge and new Chromium Edge: Arial, Times New Roman and Consolas.

Maybe post a screenshot comparing both of them?
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#33
Lionheart
Pfff you're all plebs, it's all about Netscape these days. :pimp:

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#34
ARF
I like these images in Edge :) Every time it is a different and interesting one.

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#35
Spartanjet
Love the new Edge Chromium. First a big annoyance I had with Chrome (other than the fact I don't trust Google at all) is that they didn't have a favorites drop down menu. I hate favorite bars its one of the reasons why I stuck with Firefox. I still like Firefox but Edge has taken over as my go to browser.
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#36
cucker tarlson
ARFI like these images in Edge :) Every time it is a different and interesting one.

isn't this oversharpened ?
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#37
Vayra86
ARFI like these images in Edge :) Every time it is a different and interesting one.

Looks very oversaturated. Look at the blue, all definition is lost on the boat edges. And its just painful to watch the tree blossom, its a total mess. Similar things happen with the grass as well, its almost all super bright green. Fake HDR comes to mind.

Radeon or not, your image settings are F'ed beyond recognition.

I recognize these characteristics... its the same thing you see in many SweetFX presets: oversaturated, too high in contrast, in a desperate bid to create a more vibrant image. The reality is you've just grown accustomed to a higher contrast and it means a loss of detail. Color tones are simply gone and pushed to extremes.

The writing's on the wall too, as you said my FF pic looks better than Edge, but didn't Edge have full hardware acceleration? I agree Edge does more on/with GPU resources, scrolling and cursor movement inside an image are somewhat better. Its very minor, but its there.
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#38
HugsNotDrugs
This is the most rewarding comment thread I've seen in a very long time. Quality discussion and examples, too.

Thanks all.
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#39
cucker tarlson
Vayra86Looks very oversaturated. Look at the blue, all definition is lost on the boat edges. And its just painful to watch the tree blossom, its a total mess. Similar things happen with the grass as well, its almost all super bright green. Fake HDR comes to mind.

Radeon or not, your image settings are F'ed beyond recognition.

I recognize these characteristics... its the same thing you see in many SweetFX presets: oversaturated, too high in contrast, in a desperate bid to create a more vibrant image. The reality is you've just grown accustomed to a higher contrast and it means a loss of detail. Color tones are simply gone and pushed to extremes.

The writing's on the wall too, as you said my FF pic looks better than Edge, but didn't Edge have full hardware acceleration? I agree Edge does more on/with GPU resources, scrolling and cursor movement inside an image are somewhat better. Its very minor, but its there.
look at the edges of the cloud.oversharpening is very offputting.same for blossoms - they're not supposed to be that sharp.they don't mix well with the image.
to each his own tho.I prefer smooth.

been trying out edge - I like.it's just a browser tho.one would think they've all come this far by 2020.
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#40
Kaotik
windwhirlAbout your second complaint, I'm not sure. Old Edge, Chromium Edge (in my case, Canary) and Firefox all jumped from the Omnibox/Address bar to Google's search bar when I checked just moments ago...

Default fonts as far as I know are the usual ones in both old Edge and new Chromium Edge: Arial, Times New Roman and Consolas.

Maybe post a screenshot comparing both of them?
It looks like whatever was the issue was fixed by re-starting the whole browser.
I couldn't take screenshots of the browser window either, it looked just like Chrome screenshots, way overbright (I'm using HDR colorspace on desktop), but after restarting the browser that seems to have fixed itself too
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#41
Vayra86
cucker tarlsonlook at the edges of the cloud.oversharpening is very offputting.same for blossoms - they're not supposed to be that sharp.they don't mix well with the image.
to each his own tho.I prefer smooth.

been trying out edge - I like.it's just a browser tho.one would think they've all come this far by 2020.
Not a big fan of how Edge autofills stuff. I do some dev work in the browser as well and that seriously screws with the workflow sometimes. That is what's nice about FF, the browser is super conscious about user experience and preserving it. In its time on this major version I've not experienced a single change in usage despite multiple updates. Its all under the hood and if its a visible change, you get prompted if you want to use it. Privacy settings are also ahead of the curve.
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#42
cucker tarlson
I like FF too,been my to go broswer for I don't know how many years.15 or more.
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#43
Kaotik
cucker tarlsonI like FF too,been my to go broswer for I don't know how many years.15 or more.
I'm seriously considering that unless I can safely uninstall the Chromium-Edge and return to proper Edge without risk of forced update
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#44
Vayra86
KaotikI'm seriously considering that unless I can safely uninstall the Chromium-Edge and return to proper Edge without risk of forced update
Proper Edge is discontinued, isn't it? A browser is literally one of the worst applications to not have up-to-date. Its the front-end for EVERYTHING we use nowadays. If anything is always up to speed, its the browser, quite simply because of massive userbase and usage. Many companies scramble every day to keep their applications fully compliant with the latest version.
HugsNotDrugsThis is the most rewarding comment thread I've seen in a very long time. Quality discussion and examples, too.

Thanks all.
Not sure if sarcasm or real lol. The image reproduction is most certainly different in any case, I find it surprising too. Good catch @ARF
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#45
ARF
KaotikI'm seriously considering that unless I can safely uninstall the Chromium-Edge and return to proper Edge without risk of forced update
Even if you have not-up-to-date "proper" Edge, it will run extremely slow, it's unstable and crashes all the time.
Why this hate towards Chromium-based Edge ? It's working and it's excellent.



It could be super cool if someone technical from Microsoft and/or AMD explains Radeon Image Sharpening, Virtual Super Resolution, this kind of stuff and how Edge works.

It's really great:

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#46
medi01
cucker tarlsonpc - firefox
android - opera

that is all.
Or simply always Opera. That is all.
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#47
cucker tarlson
medi01Or simply always Opera. That is all.
don't like the pc opera.maybe the fancy gx.
or to put it better I like firefox more.
for android opera is great.
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#48
boidsonly
I've given Edge a try. Personally, until they add more dials to the home page, I'll stick with Opera. I like to zip through my saved sites in the evening just by clicking on them in the speed dial-not looking for them in bookmarks. Hopefully M$ catches on. Till then, I have no use for Edge.
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#49
Camm
I've sort of accidently started using new Edge, mostly because it doesn't suck, and has quite a few ways to customise it, including what appears to be quite strong privacy protections.

I'll need to see a review from an actual researcher before I commit to it on the privacy aspect, and I'll probably get around to moving back to Waterfox, but for the time being, it does what it says on the tin.
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#50
matar
been using it since beta days and i love it.
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