Friday, October 2nd 2020

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Launch Postponed to October 29th

When NVIDIA introduced its Ampere consumer graphics cards, they launched three models - the GeForce RTX 3070, RTX 3080, and RTX 3090 GPUs. Both the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 have seen the light of the day as they are now available for purchase, however, one card has remained. The GeForce RTX 3070 launch was originally planned for October 15th launch, but it has officially been postponed by NVIDIA. According to the company, the reason behind this sort of delay in the launch is the high demand expected. Production of the cards is ramping up quickly and the company is quickly stocking up the cards. Likely, NVIDIA AIBs are taking their time to stock up on cards, as the mid-range is usually in very high demand.

As a reminder, the GeForce RTX 3070 graphics card features 5888 CUDA cores running at a base frequency of 1.5 GHz and boost frequency of 1.73 GHz. Unlike the higher-end Ampere cards, the RTX 3070 uses older GDDR6 memory on a 256-bit bus with a bandwidth of 448 GB/s. The GPU features a TDP of 220 W and will be offered in a range of variants by AIBs. You will be able to purchase the GPU on October 29th for the price of $499.
Source: NVIDIA
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121 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Launch Postponed to October 29th

#26
londiste
Vya Domus8704/5888 = 1.47. The 3080 has 47% more shaders, I rounded it up to 50%. Maybe I worded it wrong.
3080 has 47% more shaders compared to 3070.
3070 has 33% less shaders compared to 3080.

3080 costs 40% more than 3070.
3070 costs 29% less than 3080.
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#27
Vya Domus
londiste3080 has 47% more shareds compared to 3070.
3070 has 33% less shaders compared to 3080.
Like I said, I worded it wrong.
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#28
Fourstaff
They may have a good reason to delay RTX 3070, or they may not. Either way, I think its good time to get RTX 2070 or 2080s right now for people with resolutions 1440 and below. 4k people might as well get RTX 3080.
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#29
M2B
Vya DomusOf course it matters, shaders and bandwidth generate the performance.
I know, but having 70% more bandwidth doesn't translate into 70% more gaming performance.
If the 3070 has similar performance to the 2080Ti, the 3080 will end up being 25-35 faster than the 3070 depending on the resolution while being 40% more expensive; so the 3070 will have better perf/dollar at the end of the day.
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#30
ratirt
FourstaffThey may have a good reason to delay RTX 3070, or they may not. Either way, I think its good time to get RTX 2070 or 2080s right now for people with resolutions 1440 and below. 4k people might as well get RTX 3080.
True that. I've been thinking of getting that 3080. Just want to wait for AMD and then the decisions will be made :)
Vya DomusOf course it matters, shaders and bandwidth generate the performance.
Yes but only if balanced right. One can't make up for the other.
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#31
Vya Domus
M2BI know, but having 70% more bandwidth doesn't translote into 70% more gaming performance.
GPUs scale pretty well, the point is this has been the biggest gap yet.
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#32
renz496
londisteMy guess - strategic move to avoid getting jebaited, or at least have better options if that happens.
even so will AMD fight with price? even with turing vs RDNA cost is not in AMD's favor.
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#33
Unregistered
They should start by revising they prices, just checked it's listed to for about 800$ on nVidia's website.
I really they'll lose badly to AMD's RDNA2, their prices are just ridiculous, since Turing nothing changed.
#34
EarthDog
Xex360They should start by revising they prices, just checked it's listed to for about 800$ on nVidia's website.
I really they'll lose badly to AMD's RDNA2, their prices are just ridiculous, since Turing nothing changed.
3070 is a $500 card bud...what is listed at $800 on the NV website?

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#35
P4-630
Xex360just checked it's listed to for about 800$ on nVidia's website.
Just checked here, 519 EUROS...
What country you from, doesn't seem to be USD.
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#36
Bubster
It's already a disappointing launch across the board...
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#37
Unregistered
EarthDog3070 is a $500 card bud...what is listed at $800 on the NV website?

That's the price in the US, nvidia prices their cards higher elsewhere, sometimes stupidly so like this:

Edit: it's about 760$. Stupidly you can get from the US taxed and deliveried for less, so it's nVidia's fault, plus AMD/Microsoft /Sony doesn't do that you can get their cards for similar prices.
#38
ZoneDymo
"as they are now available for purchase"

Wait they are?

Unrelated, imagine having bought RTX2000 for ray tracing lol
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#39
EarthDog
Xex360That's the price in the US, nvidia prices their cards higher elsewhere, sometimes stupidly so like this:

Edit: it's about 760$. Stupidly you can get from the US taxed and deliveried for less, so it's nVidia's fault, plus AMD/Microsoft /Sony doesn't do that you can get their cards for similar prices.
Looks like in your neck of the woods only so far. That sucks.
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#40
R0H1T
renz496even with turing vs RDNA cost is not in AMD's favor.
Well we don't know that, only AMD & Nvidia do. AMD could've had better margins with some Navi parts, though overall Turing margins were mostly insane.
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#41
neatfeatguy
A few things could be happening here:
1) Nvidia is telling the truth - they want to increase inventory across the board before launching in hopes to not be caught with their pants down again.
2) Nvidia is waiting to see what AMD has to offer (but I'm pretty sure they already know)...they only thing that might be iffy is what price point AMD is going to be offering things.
3) Nvidia doesn't have anything in the same price/performance category as what AMD is going to be releasing and they need time to adjust the 3070's drivers/performance and spin some PR magic make them "desirable".
4) Nvidia actually forgot to manufacture the 3070 and they're scrambling to get some ready.
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#42
ratirt
neatfeatguyA few things could be happening here:
1) Nvidia is telling the truth - they want to increase inventory across the board before launching in hopes to not be caught with their pants down again.
2) Nvidia is waiting to see what AMD has to offer (but I'm pretty sure they already know)...they only thing that might be iffy is what price point AMD is going to be offering things.
3) Nvidia doesn't have anything in the same price/performance category as what AMD is going to be releasing and they need time to adjust the 3070's drivers/performance and spin some PR magic make them "desirable".
4) Nvidia actually forgot to manufacture the 3070 and they're scrambling to get some ready.
Or NV postponed this card for later since this is the only card they have meaningful quantities at stock so (in Norway 3080 and 3090 are scheduled for January) they will actually release something that customers can buy and narrow the gap between higher tier products show up in a reasonable quantities.
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#43
Amite
ChomiqYeah it's got nothing to do with AMD announcing their cards around the same time.
Jensen wants to beat their pricing. Simple as that.
Bingo -
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#44
dayne878
With all the supply issues of the 3080, coupled with the delays of the 3070, I'm slowly losing any hope of getting a 3080. A 3070 does me no good, as I have a 2080ti already, so I need/want the 3080. But if the supply issues don't improve soon I will lose interest and just wait for a ti refresh or something that I can actually get my hands on.
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#45
F-man4
Good news for scalpers.
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#46
BoboOOZ
renz496even so will AMD fight with price? even with turing vs RDNA cost is not in AMD's favor.
The situation is very different now. Ampere has very high power draws which require expensive power delivery and cooling solutions (not to mention GDDE6X doesn't seem cheap). AMD, on the other side, if efficiency gas gone up the way leaks are suggesting, may be able to pull out similar performance with cheaper components (VRM, cooling and memory).
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#47
Vario
Crazy how a "midrange" videocard is $500 now.
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#48
Valantar
One has to wonder what the wafer throughput of Samsung's 8nm fab(s?) is like. Given that that node isn't used for much else (even the Exynos 990 is 7LPP) Nvidia should have plenty of wafers to go around unless the volume is really low. Of course the time from a wafer is done to the chips are mounted on retail PCBs is at least a couple of months, but mass production should really have been running for long enough for that to not be an issue. Of course those 628mm² GA102 dice aren't exactly making it easy, fitting just 256 dice per 300mm wafer. But it still shouldn't be that difficult to keep production up.
VarioCrazy how a "midrange" videocard is $500 now.
Indeed. Remember when the flagship GTX 980 launched at the same price? I get that we have a wider performance span now than previously, but this is getting silly. Even with a wide midrange that can be split into lower, mid and upper, that should be ~$200-400 at the most. Calling $500 midrange is crazy. That's a high end price.
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#49
chief-gunney
It appears that AMD have got Nvidia covered this generation. They are not impressed by the 3090. Nvidia cannot beat AMD in a price war as they operate with a higher margin. I feel that 'big navi' will beat the 3080 and therefore can beat any 3070 and can do it at a lower selling price. They will take some market share from Nvidia this time around.
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#50
Legacy-ZA
Does this mean the RTX3060Ti will also be pushed back further? We were expecting it to launch at the end of October.
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