Tuesday, July 13th 2021

Prebuilts with AMD 4700S Desktop Kits Sell for $600 in India

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btarunr
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Indian PC components retailer PrimeABGB started listing pre-built desktops based on the AMD 4700S Desktop Kit, a PC motherboard based on harvested PlayStation 5 SoCs with their iGPUs disabled. These are semi-custom SoCs originally bound for Sony, which didn't make the cut, as their iGPUs were found defective.

It appears like the desktop PrimeABGB is selling for the equivalent of $600, is integrated in-house by the retailer, and the other parts that make up the build are certainly of a comparable quality to the ones large OEMs cram in their $600 desktops. These include a SilverStone Sugo 13 Mesh case, an Antec Atom 450 W PSU, a 120 GB SATA 6 Gbps SSD, and a GeForce GT 710 handling graphics on par with basic iGPU solutions. What you're getting, though, is an 8-core/8-thread "Zen 2" CPU that's highly capable for productivity tasks, and hardwired 16 GB memory.

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43 Comments on Prebuilts with AMD 4700S Desktop Kits Sell for $600 in India

#1
sepheronx
they seriously shop in a mask for the b in their logo?

Dear lord.
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#2
R0H1T
I might've bough it if it had the GT 1030 in it, GT 710 ~ yeah nope not happening at that price :shadedshu:
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#3
Cruise51
They put "Geforce GT 710" and "gaming" in the same ad.
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#5
R0H1T
Where's the link for btw I don't see it listed on the site?
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#8
jigar2speed
R0H1TI might've bough it if it had the GT 1030 in it, GT 710 ~ yeah nope not happening at that price :shadedshu:
It literally says best for office applications, starter gamer gaming machine (example - NFS MW, DOTA 2, Counter strike etc. ) and Dual monitor machine for stock market. Its not marketed towards us.
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#9
R0H1T
I didn't say it was for gaming but GT 710 shouldn't really exist today, what is it Kepler nope Fermi :wtf:
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#10
robb
jigar2speedIt literally says best for office applications, starter gamer gaming machine (example - NFS MW, DOTA 2, Counter strike etc. ) and Dual monitor machine for stock market. Its not marketed towards us.
you clearly have no clue just how slow the gt 710 is. it is not suitable for gaming at all and even Intel integrated graphics from several years ago are faster.
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#11
kayjay010101
robbyou clearly have no clue just how slow the gt 710 is. it is not suitable for gaming at all and even Intel integrated graphics from several years ago are faster.
If it can run League of Legends - and literally any PoS from the last 20 years can - it's technically a gaming machine.
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#12
john_
GT 710 is a nice option for ultra low power consumption and the fact that it is a DDR5 version, not a DDR3 one, means that it does have a somewhat good memory bandwidth for it's category. Probably a little faster than a Vega 3.
Considering that someone could be buying an Intel Atom based mini PC with Intel integrated pathetic Atom graphics at not much cheaper than this, it's not a bad option.
R0H1TI didn't say it was for gaming but GT 710 shouldn't really exist today, what is it Kepler nope Fermi :wtf:
It's Kepler, not Fermi. Nvidia made a mess (and tech press kept it's mouth shut) with GT 730. There you could have 3 TOTALLY different versions with either Kepler or Fermi GPU, 64bit or 128bit data bus, DDR3 or DDR5 memory. A total mess. Someone could end up with a somewhat OK gaming card and another with a useless piece of ***BEEP***.

On the other hand GT 710 was ONLY Kepler with two versions. A pathetic GT 710 DDR3 and a somewhat OK DDR5 version.
Just as an indication, the GT 710 version I have with DDR3 scored at the latest FINAL FANTASY XIV: Endwalker Benchmark with 1280x720 Standard (Laptop) settings 3226 points. An almost ancient HD 5670, thanks to it's better bandwidth, scored 5096 points.
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#13
ZoneDymo
kayjay010101If it can run League of Legends - and literally any PoS from the last 20 years can - it's technically a gaming machine.
well by that logic, why would you put the arbitrary league of legends and the last 20 years as a minimum? if it can run MS pinball or Minesweeper we might as well call it a "gaming machine" right? making the entire term pointless.

Heck looking it up a "gaming machine" seems to still be officially a machine made for gambling like a slot machine....
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#14
john_
robbyou clearly have no clue just how slow the gt 710 is. it is not suitable for gaming at all and even Intel integrated graphics from several years ago are faster.
Several years ago? Nope. Against the DDR5 version? Definitely NOPE, at least in games. In 3DMark don't know. HD 630 seems to be faster compared to the DDR3 version, but not that much. It will lose against the DDR5 version of GT 710, because what really keeps back GT 710 with DDR3 memory, is memory bandwidth.
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#15
R0H1T
john_It's Kepler, not Fermi.
Well I'll correct myself, no one knows :slap:
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#16
robb
john_Several years ago? Nope. Against the DDR5 version? Definitely NOPE, at least in games. In 3DMark don't know. HD 630 seems to be faster compared to the DDR3 version, but not that much. It will lose against the DDR5 version of GT 710, because what really keeps back GT 710 with DDR3 memory, is memory bandwidth.
well what I saw must have been the ddr3 version then because the HD 630 averaged about 80% faster in all the typical tests such as 3dmark and even beat in the games that were tested.
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#17
john_
R0H1TWell I'll correct myself, no one knows :slap:
Thanks for the info. Didn't knew that Nvidia messed up GT 710 also. I thought they only messed up GT 730. Probably a limited/OEM version or something like that, because I never noticed a Fermi based GT 710 in retail market. All where Kepler, with either DDR3 or GDDR5 memory. I am ignoring the mobile part there at the end of that list.

I wonder where are the GDDR5 versions in Techpowerup's database. It only shows DDR3....
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#19
kayjay010101
ZoneDymowell by that logic, why would you put the arbitrary league of legends and the last 20 years as a minimum? if it can run MS pinball or Minesweeper we might as well call it a "gaming machine" right? making the entire term pointless.

Heck looking it up a "gaming machine" seems to still be officially a machine made for gambling like a slot machine....
Nobody's playing Minesweeper or Pinball at a competitive level, that's why. LOL still has a huge and active competitive scene.
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#20
john_
robbwell what I saw must have been the ddr3 version then because the HD 630 averaged about 80% faster in all the typical tests such as 3dmark and even beat in the games that were tested.
I doubt HD 630 could offer 80% extra performance over GT 710, even against the DDR3 version. And the link I gave above supports that. But who knows? 12GB/sec of bandwidth is a performance killer and sometimes it's even (much) less than that, because while Nvidia was saying "1800MHz DDR3" in specs for almost all low end models, it was leaving it up to it's partners what memory they would use. I have a GT 620 with 1200MHz DDR3 memory(it does overclock at 1400MHz+, but still very slow) and I have seen even models with 1066MHz DDR3. Maybe in that test you saw, they where using the most pathetic Kepler based GT 710 out there, or who knows maybe it was that Fermi model that is posted in TechPowerUp's database (and I was ignoring it's existence).
HugisA quick scan of TPUs database gives you this (this is 4 hdmi not vga,hdmi,dvi)

www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/asus-gt-710-silent-2-gb.b8230
If you start with "GT 71" it only shows DDR3 versions. When looking at @R0H1T screenshot above, I thought he cut the list, but that is in fact the whole list. I have to go thought Google to find that ASUS you are showing.

@W1zzard While an old almost forgotten low end model, someone could have a look at that. Why when searching in the database it does not show that GDDR5 model.
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#21
Hugis
john_I doubt HD 630 could offer 80% extra performance over GT 710, even against the DDR3 version. And the link I gave above supports that. But who knows? 12GB/sec of bandwidth is a performance killer and sometimes it's even (much) less than that, because while Nvidia was saying "1800MHz DDR3" in specs for almost all low end models, it was leaving it up to it's partners what memory they would use. I have a GT 620 with 1200MHz DDR3 memory(it does overclock at 1400MHz+, but still very slow) and I have seen even models with 1066MHz DDR3. Maybe in that test you saw, they where using the most pathetic Kepler based GT 710 out there, or who knows maybe it was that Fermi model that is posted in TechPowerUp's database (and I was ignoring it's existence).


If you start with "GT 71" it only shows DDR3 versions. When looking at @R0H1T screenshot above, I thought he cut the list, but that is in fact the whole list. I have to go thought Google to find that ASUS you are showing.
depends if you dig deeper into our Database

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#22
john_
Hugisdepends if you dig deeper into our Database ie

How can we do that?

Because
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#23
Hugis
john_How can we do that?

Because
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#24
john_
HugisClick this one



I see, thanks. Still probably database needs a little fixing there, to saw the GDDR5 model directly.
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#25
Chaitanya
They are not the only ones, saw whole bunch of adverts on facebook marketplace with pc featuring that motherboard.
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