As I posted in the other thread a tuned 5950X already beats this alderlake score so we need to wait for final silicon.

And the title should mention this is one benchmark cinebench.

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AnarchoPrimitivIntel 10nm is the same density as TSMC 5nm? I thought Intel 10nm was equivocal to TSMC 7nm, but I could be wrong

Tsmc's actual density is lower than advertised.. according to wikichip

DeathtoGnomesso they are comparing PCIe4 and DDR4 (AMD) to PCIe5 and DDR5 (Intel). On top of that, a not yet in production and reviewed chip to one that has been ??

Yeah, I seriously doubt we will see reviews before Q4, and any significant volume until Q1 22.

I mean, three months after early reviews, and there is just a trickle here on Newegg.

www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100157995%20601312452

Adding more cores will be a bit harder to manufacture than Tiger Lake H.

Hasn’t every new Intel supposedly beat the old generation by 15 percent at some obscure task in ideal conditions that never materialize in the real world?

spin faster spin machine

Hossein AlmetWell, right now I want to reduce boost clock of my 5950X to 4.7 or 4.8 GHz so that I game in warmer weather, but don't know how:(

Reduce PPT

AnarchoPrimitivAnd I would assume that nobody wants to return to those dark ages.

These weren't dark ages. Those were the best times if you wanted to buy something that lasts you for a long time. I wish that at some point we will reach similar plateau, so that software wouldn't be as bloated as it is.

Patriotput it in eco mode, or ctdp limit it to whatever you want with ryzenmaster or ctr

Ech, just stop caring about temps on Zen 3. And stop using the godawful software that is CTR.

pic smells like fanboi.............

EmilyEch, just stop caring about temps on Zen 3. And stop using the godawful software that is CTR.

It really isn't bad if you want to quickly tune your system. Then take those settings and put them in UEFI.
very useful for binning chips.

At least Intel has more control over the FAB process if they are doing it themselves and not relying on a third party.

TomorrowTook them only a year to beat AMD? Well thats progress i suppose. Ofcourse this might be shortlived considering the V-Cache models coming out shortly after and Zen4 in 2022.
The important thing is not to fall into P4 "PressHot" cycle where AMD could charge 1000+ bucks for their top of the line mainstream chips due to lack of competition.
Im reasonably certain Intel can avoid that this time. Atleast on mainstream and mobile. Im far more pessimistic about their chanches on server and HEDT tho.

Pretty weak take... How long did it take amd to catch up and then finally out do Intel?

Like for real don't be a child the hope is that both companies keep coming out with chips to put class the other back and forth on and on.

That's only good news for everyone.

It's when Intel leads for over a decade and has no competition that we end where we were before.

Now that they actually have to try it should ultimately be more power for everyone and maybe amd will once again look to price as a way to get the edge instead of just rising to meet and even exceed Intel.

CybrshrkPretty weak take... How long did it take amd to catch up and then finally out do Intel?

Like for real don't be a child the hope is that both companies keep coming out with chips to put class the other back and forth on and on.

That's only good news for everyone.

It's when Intel leads for over a decade and has no competition that we end where we were before.

Now that they actually have to try it should ultimately be more power for everyone and maybe amd will once again look to price as a way to get the edge instead of just rising to meet and even exceed Intel.

Unfortunately this is all fud. we have performance from 1 ES chip, that they are trying to estimate to a completely different core config chip and at different boost clocks that we don't know if it can actually hit.

And the supposed numbers are behind a tuned 5950x It may be competitive in gaming and I hope it to be, and it better be competitive in power usage because I don't see it beating amd in overall multithreaded. AMD also plans to combat it by slapping on more L3 cache for a free 15% performance boost.

This "Report". "Leak" or "Rumour" is complete and utter garbage.

Here is the best estimate for the 12900K performance in CineBench R20:

1) Single Core 745

2) Multi-Core 8,620.

If the 12900K uses exclusively DDR5 memory, then the gaming performance will be below that of the 11900K

Without overclocking and staying completely within specs, my 5950X gets a CineBench R20 score of around 12,100 whereby my ambient temp in the room is 30 degrees Celsius (87 Fahrenheit) and I am using non exotic cooling (360 Rad AlphaCool Eisbaer).

There again, as opposed to the Tech Media or Tech YouTubers, I put in the months of work to actually learn how to configure 3rd/4th Gen Ryzen CPU where they - even two years after launch - are still oblivious.

I documented how to configure 3rd/4th Gen Ryzen in an article I posted on the AMD Red Team forum almost a year and a half ago in March of 2020.

Michael NagerThis "Report". "Leak" or "Rumour" is complete and utter garbage.

Here is the best estimate for the 12900K performance in CineBench R20:

1) Single Core 745

2) Multi-Core 8,620.

If the 12900K uses exclusively DDR5 memory, then the gaming performance will be below that of the 11900K

Without overclocking and staying completely within specs, my 5950X gets a CineBench R20 score of around 12,100 whereby my ambient temp in the room is 30 degrees Celsius (87 Fahrenheit) and I am using non exotic cooling (360 Rad AlphaCool Eisbaer).

There again, as opposed to the Tech Media or Tech YouTubers, I put in the months of work to actually learn how to configure 3rd/4th Gen Ryzen CPU where they - even two years after launch - are still oblivious.

I documented how to configure 3rd/4th Gen Ryzen in an article I posted on the AMD Red Team forum almost a year and a half ago in March of 2020.

Your estimate? Worthless with any kind of source