Wednesday, October 27th 2021

Most of Gigabyte's Intel Z690 Motherboards Only Features Two Audio Jacks

Although we're going to try and cover all the newly launched Intel Z690 based motherboards more thoroughly before the retail availability date, we had a quick look already on what's on offer and we were struck by something rather odd when it comes to Gigabyte, most of their new boards only have two 3.5 mm audio jacks around the back. This is not limited to their cheaper SKUs, but is found through the entire product stack.

We're not entirely sure what's going on here and will check with Gigabyte once someone is awake that we can talk to about it, but we're fairly certain that this is going to cause a bit of a backlash from their customers. This was actually something we kind of saw in the leaked image of one of the Aero boards, as it didn't look like it had any audio jacks at all, but that wasn't the case. Instead, it seems to have something to do with Gigabyte's move away from the Realtek ALC1220 Intel HD audio based codecs that the company have been using for the past few generations of boards.
We first spotted this on the Z690I Aorus Ultra, a Mini-ITX board and didn't think too much of it, as Mini-ITX boards often have more limited audio ports. However, it turns out that everything from the fairly entry level Z690 Gaming X all the way up to the Z690 Aorus Xtreme has had their ports cut back, although there are models in between that still feature some variant of the ALC1220 audio codec. Most of the boards appear to feature the ALC4080, something we've already seen on some ASUS motherboards, although ASUS offers a full complement of ports on their boards. It should be noted that the ALC408x is a USB audio codec and as such doesn't appear to be Intel HD audio compliant, if it matters.
Some boards only have two 3.5 mm jacks as mentioned, whereas others also have an optical S/PDIF jack, but this can apparently not be used at the same time as the 3.5 mm jack and we're not sure if this requires you to unplug the 3.5 mm jack to use the S/PDIF interface. At least all of these boards sport a front panel audio header, but there are a couple of boards that make this whole change even more confusing. The first one is the Aero G, which in addition to the ALC4080 features an old and quite frankly poor quality ALC897 Intel HD codec for the front panel audio header. We really don't understand why, as this is a huge downgrade even from the ALC1220.
Finally we have the Z690 Aorus Xtreme, which does away with Realtek altogether, in favour of an ESS ES9280AC USB DAC and a pair of ESS ES9080 DAC's on top of that, all of which sits on a daughter card at the rear I/O. However, this board doesn't appear to have any kind of front audio connector. We'd also expect more than a couple of 3.5 mm audio jacks and an optical S/PDIF out with a setup like this, but apparently that's all we get. What's more, the Z690 Aorus Xtreme comes with an additional "ESSential" USB DAC that could be used for front audio, but which seems kind of wasted considering the high-end audio that the board already sports. We really don't follow Gigabyte's logic here and although it's nice to see some better quality audio solutions being used, we have a feeling a lot of people will want more than two audio jacks on their motherboard. We should also mention that none of Gigabyte's competitors offer a similar cut-back on audio jacks.
Source: Gigabyte
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74 Comments on Most of Gigabyte's Intel Z690 Motherboards Only Features Two Audio Jacks

#26
nienorgt
I'm OK with that if they keep the digital out, but removing it... that is a bad move.
Onboard sound should be good for people who don't need high-end sound, but I think it's time to stop trying putting "high-end" audio in motherboards as people who really want it will use external DAC/AMP combo.
More USB ports can be more useful to more people.
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#27
AlwaysHope
Voodoo RufusLine out and mic in is all one would need for a gaming headset. External USB DACs can be a matter of taste, too.
Your kidding aren't you? I wouldn't touch a mobo without dedicated 5.1, 3.5mm output. I use 7.1 headphones but never the mike. Spatial positioning of sound in game is vital for successful play. Besides its cheaper without compromising sound quality imo.
TurmaniaWeird move by gigabyte, but they have been weirdly ran company for the last year or so... they moved some production to taiwan recently from mainland china, maybe they have supply issues? Does not make sense but once again, nothing about gigabyte decisions lately makes sense...
That's great news they moved some production out of authoritarian CCP land.
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#28
jeremyshaw
AlwaysHope[...]
That's great news they moved some production out of authoritarian CCP land.
Probably "forced" to, after Gigabyte made advertising about taiwanese quality over mainlanders'.

www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-stock-drops-chinese-manufacturing-comment

Of course, Tom's HW isn't willing to post the original advert.

www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3133171/taiwans-gigabyte-technology-faces-boycott-china-after-mocking-low

In the end, Gigabyte probably has no real market position in PRC anymore. Expect their quality to continue sliding down without PRC market money to sustain their engineering teams.
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#29
AlwaysHope
jeremyshawProbably "forced" to, after Gigabyte made advertising about taiwanese quality over mainlanders'.

www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-stock-drops-chinese-manufacturing-comment

Of course, Tom's HW isn't willing to post the original advert.

www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3133171/taiwans-gigabyte-technology-faces-boycott-china-after-mocking-low

In the end, Gigabyte probably has no real market position in PRC anymore. Expect their quality to continue sliding down without PRC market money to sustain their engineering teams.
In the business world, its adapt or die.
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#30
lexluthermiester
TheLostSwedewe were struck by something rather odd when it comes to Gigabyte, most of their new boards only have two 3.5 mm audio jacks around the back.
So is Gigabyte actually trying to piss everyone off? Their track record lately leans in that direction rather strongly!
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#31
arni-gx
so, if some user have speaker 5.1 or 7.1, how they will connect that speaker setup into this new motherboards alder lake from gigabyte ??
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#32
Voodoo Rufus
AlwaysHopeYour kidding aren't you? I wouldn't touch a mobo without dedicated 5.1, 3.5mm output. I use 7.1 headphones but never the mike. Spatial positioning of sound in game is vital for successful play. Besides its cheaper without compromising sound quality imo.
Actually, no, I'm not kidding. I have used various 5.1 speaker systems with my computer in the past and it's amazing for racing games, but for FPS games a quality set of stereo headphones can't be beat. Granted, I have not tried a "surround headphone" set yet.

I too look for 5.1 or 7.1 analog outputs, just in case I have the space again in the future for a surround gaming system.
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#34
chrcoluk
Either a technical barrier or $$$.

Remember the new consoles did away with spdif out and the leader of the XBOX brand even stated they were only saving $1 per unit, but that was enough of a saving to make the decision.
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#35
TheLostSwede
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thewanThe website for the Aorus Xtreme does mention the reason behind using USB DAC instead of the standard front panel jack. Those cables in the pc cases that connect to the front panel audio are too inconsistent, either poor grounding or poor shielding, or even a combination of both. I've had my fair share of poor front panel audio from the cases I've owned so far, and for those who say they don't experience such things, well lucky you. For the rest, this is a viable out of the box solution for those people who do not know much about picking out USB DACs from the multitude of choices available nowadays and just wanna use the defaults that come in the box.
Only the Xtreme comes with the DAC though. What's everyone else going to do?
Snoop05definetly not a hardware limitation, pretty sure u can just do pin config override in the OS and have them work as independent sinks
Gigabyte states quite clearly you can't use them together.
Chrispy_Oh wow, I hadn't even considered people using unamplified line in/line out. For motherboard audio isn't that just asking for EMI noises in the background? I know isolated traces and higher-end capacitors can help but IME they're still in the same metal box as all the other stuff generating EMI interference that manifests as squeals, whines, and other irritations that even a very cheap USB DAC (built into a cheap headset, or mic) can reduce or eliminate entirely.
Not everyone has as high requirements. I bet a lot of people just use what their PC has in terms of connectivity. There have been other discussions about what ports people use and the conclusion was pretty much that most people use what they're given.
eidairaman1This is stupid to butcher AC97
AC'97 died a very long time ago. All modern boards use the Intel HD audio standard.
nienorgtI'm OK with that if they keep the digital out, but removing it... that is a bad move.
Onboard sound should be good for people who don't need high-end sound, but I think it's time to stop trying putting "high-end" audio in motherboards as people who really want it will use external DAC/AMP combo.
More USB ports can be more useful to more people.
I tried to use the S/PDIF out on my board with Netflix on my PC, guess what, it doesn't work. Netflix works fine using analogue out, bit refuses to our output audio digitally to my speakers...
It's clearly not an issue of space on most of the boards.
TurmaniaWeird move by gigabyte, but they have been weirdly ran company for the last year or so... they moved some production to taiwan recently from mainland china, maybe they have supply issues? Does not make sense but once again, nothing about gigabyte decisions lately makes sense...
They have a very nice and quite modern factory not too far from the main international airport in Taiwan, so why not use it? They've always made some boards there, plus Japan prefers made in Taiwan and so does the US note. Plus there should be lower duties on made in Taiwan products, so nothing really weird.
arni-gxso, if some user have speaker 5.1 or 7.1, how they will connect that speaker setup into this new motherboards alder lake from gigabyte ??
You can't without a sound card if the speakers only have analogue input.

I did ping someone at Gigabyte about this, but was told to contact TPU's main point of contact there for an official answer. So let's wait and see what that will be.
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#36
AlwaysHope
TheLostSwedeThey have a very nice and quite modern factory not too far from the main international airport in Taiwan, so why not use it? They've always made some boards there, plus Japan prefers made in Taiwan and so does the US note. Plus there should be lower duties on made in Taiwan products, so nothing really weird.
Thanks for the update, nice to know. Hopefully my Z590 Aorus Ultra I ordered last week comes from that factory.:)
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#37
TheDeeGee
TheLostSwedeCreative making Windows 11 drivers for it? My experience with Creative is lack of support and buggy drivers, but I haven't had one of their products since the X-Fi Elite Pro.
It's still being supported yes, infact last year they updated the Command App to support the older Z series as well.

I personally never had issues with Creative Soundcards and their software, and been using them since the Soundblaster 16 days from the 90s. Which probably means i've never used Onboard... like ever.
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#38
TheLostSwede
News Editor
TheDeeGeeIt's still being supported yes, infact last year they updated the Command App to support the older Z series as well.

I personally never had issues with Creative Soundcards and their software, and been using them since the Soundblaster 16 days from the 90s. Which probably means i've never used Onboard... like ever.
I guess the X-Fi cards, despite having good hardware, were some of the worst supported. They only ever released a beta driver for Windows 7 and it was quite glitchy.
I do miss their press events though, as they were usually really good...
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#39
cadaveca
My name is Dave
I dont fully understand why or whats going on here. At least its reason to read reviews :P
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#40
TheLostSwede
News Editor
cadavecaI dont fully understand why or whats going on here. At least its reason to read reviews :p
I'm not sure either, which is why I wrote it up. Haven't had a proper answer from Gigabyte as yet, so we'll have to wait and see if there's a sensible explanation.
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#41
zlobby
'Spare no expence!'

'OK, spare some expence...'
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#42
AusWolf
TheLostSwedeI don't really think so, as I can't imagine the physical audio jacks cost much and Asus has clearly implemented a couple of different ALC408x USB codecs will a full set of ports on their boards, so as I said, I don't know why Gigabyte has gone down this route.
TheLostSwedeI'm not sure either, which is why I wrote it up. Haven't had a proper answer from Gigabyte as yet, so we'll have to wait and see if there's a sensible explanation.
Space saving maybe? Some of these back panels seem to have an abundance of USB ports.
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#43
TheLostSwede
News Editor
AusWolfSpace saving maybe? Some of these back panels seem to have an abundance of USB ports.
On a couple of models, yes, but not on most.
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#44
TheUn4seen
Oh come on, people, we're talking about a corporation and consumer market. They concluded that they can save 2 cents per board and a "focus group" told them that not many people will care. They probably will, at some point, introduce "full analog audio outputs" as a premium feature on a very expensive board. That's how corporations roll.


Personally I consider low quality onboard audio a waste of space, just like Wi-Fi on a desktop board. USB ports are infinitely more useful.
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#45
TheLostSwede
News Editor
TheUn4seenOh come on, people, we're talking about a corporation and consumer market. They concluded that they can save 2 cents per board and a "focus group" told them that not many people will care. They probably will, at some point, introduce "full analog audio outputs" as a premium feature on a very expensive board. That's how corporations roll.


Personally I consider low quality onboard audio a waste of space, just like Wi-Fi on a desktop board. USB ports are infinitely more useful.
1. Taiwanese companies don't do focus groups.
2. They still have at least two models, possibly more, as I didn't check all of them, that have the full compliment of audio jacks. Also, some base models have a reduced set of three jacks for mic, headphones and line out.
3. People have different needs, as not everyone can connect their PC to a router with a cable.
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#46
AusWolf
TheUn4seenPersonally I consider low quality onboard audio a waste of space, just like Wi-Fi on a desktop board. USB ports are infinitely more useful.
Onboard audio is quite useful when you're short on space for extension cards. Not everyone thinks in full size ATX. ;)

Same with Wi-Fi. I'm renting, and my router is at the opposite end of the flat as my PC, so good onboard Wi-Fi is a must.
TheLostSwede3. People have different needs, as not everyone can connect their PC to a router with a cable.
You replied faster. :D
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#47
TheUn4seen
TheLostSwede1. Taiwanese companies don't do focus groups.
2. They still have at least two models, possibly more, as I didn't check all of them, that have the full compliment of audio jacks. Also, some base models have a reduced set of three jacks for mic, headphones and line out.
3. People have different needs, as not everyone can connect their PC to a router with a cable.
It's still a corporation selling products on the western market, so they work on the same principles.
Yes, of course people have different needs, that's why corporations decided that enough people want Wi-Fi to waste space on it. Hence why I have to rip this junk out, sell it on eBay recouping a few pennies but have to use USB hubs.
AusWolfOnboard audio is quite useful when you're short on space for extension cards. Not everyone thinks in full size ATX. ;)

Same with Wi-Fi. I'm renting, and my router is at the opposite end of the flat as my PC, so good onboard Wi-Fi is a must.
I use miniITX boards since they came to the market and exclusively so since LGA1156. I'd much prefer a second or third m.2 socket than crappy audio which can't even come close to an old Maya U5 I got several years ago.

My point is: getting rid of Wi-Fi and TRRS ports frees enough space for several USB ports, far more than you would need for decent audio and Wi-Fi
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#48
Unregistered
I think most boards have too many USB ports, how many do you need? Most people wont need 6 or 8 on the back surely. Imo onboard wifi is a bonus, especially if it is quality Intel though i use a cable connection as i am close enough to my router.

If you are using iTX i understand where you are coming from re the Wi-Fi, i don't need a full size board so am using Matx.
#49
AusWolf
TheUn4seenI use miniITX boards since they came to the market and exclusively so since LGA1156. I'd much prefer a second or third m.2 socket than crappy audio which can't even come close to an old Maya U5 I got several years ago.

My point is: getting rid of Wi-Fi and TRRS ports frees enough space for several USB ports, far more than you would need for decent audio and Wi-Fi
Networking and audio on USB kind of reminds me of the early 1990s when even your keyboard controller was sitting on an expansion card. No, thanks. :) Maybe it's just me, though.
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#50
Chrispy_
TheLostSwedeI guess the X-Fi cards, despite having good hardware, were some of the worst supported. They only ever released a beta driver for Windows 7 and it was quite glitchy.
I do miss their press events though, as they were usually really good...
Creative's dire support of the X-Fi cards was the last time I touched a Creative product. That travesty was inexcusable and the problems with drivers started long before Windows 7.

My X-Fi didn't have a 64-bit drivers for a whole year. I had to use onboard audio, and as weeks turned into months without a driver I gave up on it altogether and sold the X-Fi. I was not shocked to see that the eventual beta driver was a shitshow of epic proportions anyway and glad I bailed on Creative when I did.
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