Monday, January 17th 2022

AMD to Refresh the Radeon RX 6000 Desktop Series with Faster Memory

AMD is preparing a round of updates to its desktop Radeon RX 6000 series in the wake of RTX 30-series models by NVIDIA, according to Greymon55, a reliable source with GPU rumors. The company could be leveraging faster 18 Gbps GDDR6 memory chips for the task. This wouldn't be the first RX 6000 series products with 18 Gbps memory, as the liquid-cooled MBA (made-by-AMD) RX 6900 XT that's exclusive to OEMs, already comes with 18 Gbps memory clocks.

Mass-production of JEDEC-standard GDDR6 memory chips with data-rates as high as 20 Gbps and 24 Gbps by Samsung is expected to get underway later this year. The company is already sampling these chips, and it's likely that they may feature in the next round of product-stack updates by AMD and NVIDIA. In the run up to its next-gen RDNA3 graphics architecture, AMD is rumored to be working on a refresh of RDNA2 on the new TSMC N6 (6 nm) foundry node that it already leverages for the entry-level "Navi 24" ASIC. This is expected to open up headroom to dial up engine clocks, and possibly support faster memory. As for this latest refresh with 18 Gbps memory, if AMD's naming convention for its mobile RX 6850M is anything to go by, the new SKUs could feature a similar "xx50" model numbering.
Sources: Greymon55 (Twitter), VideoCardz
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29 Comments on AMD to Refresh the Radeon RX 6000 Desktop Series with Faster Memory

#1
usiname
Let's hope the 24Gbps GDDR6 is as effective as the current 16Gbps and not like the GDDR6X
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#2
Aoyagi
Ah, that must mean the RX 7000 series is nowhere to be seen then. I really am going to be stuck with this R9 290 forever...
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#3
stimpy88
Yeah, we will give you 5% more performance for a 30% price hike.
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#4
Fluffmeister
Widely available cheaper stock would be better, but instead it's XTXH binned chips and faster VRAM.
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#5
DeathtoGnomes
stimpy88Yeah, we will give you 5% more performance for a 30% price hike.
35% with RGB.
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#6
Chiven
DeathtoGnomes35% with RGB.
I underestimated RGB this whole time, damn, 30% perf boost!
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#7
ModEl4
great, around 10% more performance more or less at probably similar pricing (or even worse, with no MSRPs and the comment the they are essentially premium versions of existing models like the RTX 2060 12G situation). Not a great time to be a PC gamer!
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#8
Fluffmeister
With exciting news like this from AMD, it's no wonder Nvidia are raking it in.
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#9
TheoneandonlyMrK
FluffmeisterWith exciting news like this from AMD, it's no wonder Nvidia are raking it in.
Yes Nvidia have much more exciting news, of releasing 2060's with more memory ,3050's and a 3k 3090 Ti unicorn (delayed for you cos miner sales)version.
They're taking the piss is my take, I would expect refreshes, history has them repeatably occurring for both AMD and Nvidia, yet Nvidia are able to not bother refreshing anything anyone wants and desires or shipping enough 3080s to meet day one demand and orders and just went with mining card's instead.

No retort, likely because Nvidia didn't show up yet this year did they, Even the meager stuff they announced at CES not, was largely just vapourware.
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#10
antriksh
Nice, If it's on 6nm, it will surely help with GPU shortages. Good stopgap between rdna2 and 3
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#11
ppn
6nm is on EUV with a die size limitation of 420mm2 that 6900 should fit in and a decent clock boost, so it will outperform the nvidia line up. now nvidia has no choice but to move to 6nm too. So every card on sale now is obsoleted, not worth it.
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#12
z1n0x
AoyagiAh, that must mean the RX 7000 series is nowhere to be seen then. I really am going to be stuck with this R9 290 forever...
That could very well be the case. Save the expensive 5nm for the more profitable Zen4 chiplets.

edit: Are we certain RDNA3 is on 5nm and not on 6nm?
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#13
TheHughMan
I'm starting to regret missing the 4 for the price of 1 used Radeon RX Vega after crypto crash 2018. You better believe if it happens again I'm not going to let deals slip by again.
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#14
ratirt
I'd be happy if they could unlock the Bioses for Memory OC on existing as well. These definitely can go higher. That would have been something.
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#15
Chomiq
Faster memory, I know one group that will be happy with this.
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#16
ixi
ChomiqFaster memory, I know one group that will be happy with this.
This person know what he is talking about.
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#17
JAB Creations
AoyagiAh, that must mean the RX 7000 series is nowhere to be seen then. I really am going to be stuck with this R9 290 forever...
R9 290X here and I just don't have the $600 for a 6600 right now though it does have 8GB of RAM and a good overall increase in performance. You can actually buy it direct from Newegg right now.
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#18
HD64G
z1n0xThat could very well be the case. Save the expensive 5nm for the more profitable Zen4 chiplets.

edit: Are we certain RDNA3 is on 5nm and not on 6nm?
RDNA3 will launch only for the twin-tile GPUs at first and made on 5nm. No point in doing any thing else. So, the 6nm RDNA2 refresh will remain on market for at least a year or so.
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#19
Guwapo77
AoyagiAh, that must mean the RX 7000 series is nowhere to be seen then. I really am going to be stuck with this R9 290 forever...
Exactly what I thought when I read this. While I was typing this reply, I thought what if the refresh is for the lower end of the product line? You know 6800 (non-xt) and below... AMD has been known not to update the entire series at once many times in the past. I still have high hopes for the 7900/7950XT (whatever it will be called) dropping Q4.
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#20
Testsubject01
AoyagiAh, that must mean the RX 7000 series is nowhere to be seen then. I really am going to be stuck with this R9 290 forever...
z1n0xThat could very well be the case. Save the expensive 5nm for the more profitable Zen4 chiplets.

edit: Are we certain RDNA3 is on 5nm and not on 6nm?
Currently, ZEN 4 and RDN 3 based GPUs are still planned for TSMC's N5P node and just like Intel's Raptor lake (Intel 7 node =10nm) and Nvidia's Ada Lovelace (TSMC's N5 node) based GPUs should release somewhere Q3-Q4.
None of this is set in stone officially! However, the refreshes one sees, are most likely there to have something “new” for the coming release of Intel's ARC GPUs as well as OEM integrations in 2022.

Well, and to also get a bigger cut of the crypto cake by effectively sunsetting the previous models. Any bets, if ETH gets it's merge to POS in Q2 2022? :rolleyes:
All the big chipmakers try to anchor new price brackets as hard as they can, to define a new normal for after the shortages/corona.
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#21
kapone32
JAB CreationsR9 290X here and I just don't have the $600 for a 6600 right now though it does have 8GB of RAM and a good overall increase in performance. You can actually buy it direct from Newegg right now.
I am so tempted to get it just to see how good it is.

The reason I like the 6600 is because it is 1/2 the price of the 6700XT.
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#22
mechtech
Probably get more hash and not the kind you smoke.

I guess fps too but doubt many of these cards get utilized for gaming?
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#23
FreedomOfSpeech
Would like to know if the new cards are featuring HDMI 2.1 better than the actuall cards.
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#24
Bruno_O
FreedomOfSpeechWould like to know if the new cards are featuring HDMI 2.1 better than the actuall cards.
the current RX 6000 are HDMI 2.1 (at least the 6600 and above)
I have HDMI 2.1 gear (4k 120 Hz), it works
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#25
kapone32
mechtechProbably get more hash and not the kind you smoke.

I guess fps too but doubt many of these cards get utilized for gamingI mean to pair this with my 5600G systedm The thing is I can't believe that $600 is attractive for a GPU that is considered budget I mean only the 6500XT will be probably $300+ Canadian.
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