Wednesday, August 24th 2022

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X "Zen 4" Cinebench R20 Score Leaked

The Cinebench R20 score of an AMD Ryzen 7 7700X "Zen 4" processor (possibly engineering sample), was allegedly leaked to the web by "Extreme Player Hall," a video-format tech news published on Bili Bili, as discovered by 9550pro on Twitter. The 8-core/16-thread processor was shown scoring 773 points in the single-thread test, and 7701 points in the multi-threaded one. These numbers put it 25-30 percent faster than the current Ryzen 7 5800X, as pointed out by Greymon55. The multi-threaded performance of this chip is roughly on par with that of the 5900X, which means AMD is overcoming a 50% CPU core-deficit on the backs of higher IPC and memory bandwidth.

The 25% single-core performance gain over the 5800X, if extrapolated to other less-parallized workloads such as gaming, could put this processor about 5-10% ahead of the 5800X3D, and about 4-9% ahead of the Core i9-12900K. The 7700X could face an uphill task measuring up to "Raptor Lake" in multi-threaded tests, given that Intel is doubling down on its Hybrid Architecture, with more E-cores across the lineup. AMD may still have a crack at matching Raptor Lake's gaming performance with future variants that have 3DV Cache.
Sources: Extreme Player (Bili Bili), HXL (Twitter)
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44 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 7700X "Zen 4" Cinebench R20 Score Leaked

#1
neatfeatguy
In before both sides:

AMD fanboys: See! Awesome!

Intel fanboys: Behind Intel. AMD fail!
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#2
phanbuey


Sweet! Enjoying my 7700X ahem 12600K here...
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#3
Punkenjoy
phanbuey

Sweet! Enjoying my 7700X ahem 12600K here...
Stock ?

But on the Ryzen 7 7700x, sad that it's on R20 because that thing is probably just super fast to render and it could just be short boost. Maybe not. Also that gain cannot be put on the AVX 512 support as neither R20 or R23 support it.

Can't wait to see more results there. They match it but i would prefer a cpu with 8 real core than one with 6 good and 4 bad. Not sure if Raptor lake will make me change my mind on that.



On a side note, neither R20 or R23 use AVX 512 so it's not what is causing the IPC gain there. we will have to see more benchmark to see how it perform but it's looking great for Zen 4 X3D.
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#4
usiname
~5.3Ghz all core and 5.55Ghz single
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#5
thebluebumblebee
"with future variants that have 3DV Cache."

Ah, maybe that's why there's no "800" CPU. Maybe it will be the Ryzen 7 7800X3D???
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#6
Punkenjoy
This or a 7800x would be too high of a number vs 13700k
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#7
ir_cow
I'm getting 10500~ for Intel 12900K stock and 6100~ for Ryzen 5800X (4.6GHz).
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#8
dgianstefani
TPU Proofreader
thebluebumblebee"with future variants that have 3DV Cache."

Ah, maybe that's why there's no "800" CPU. Maybe it will be the Ryzen 7 7800X3D???
This could make sense.
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#9
phanbuey
PunkenjoyStock ?

But on the Ryzen 7 7700x, sad that it's on R20 because that thing is probably just super fast to render and it could just be short boost. Maybe not. Also that gain cannot be put on the AVX 512 support as neither R20 or R23 support it.

Can't wait to see more results there. They match it but i would prefer a cpu with 8 real core than one with 6 good and 4 bad. Not sure if Raptor lake will make me change my mind on that.



On a side note, neither R20 or R23 use AVX 512 so it's not what is causing the IPC gain there. we will have to see more benchmark to see how it perform but it's looking great for Zen 4 X3D.
5.2 Ghz P/ 4.2Ghz e core with a BUNCH of crap open in the background.

I actually prefer the e-cores since they soak up garbage background threads. That separation makes a noticeable performance difference.



Works great when listening to youtube/spotify and having stuff open while gaming.
Intel i5 12600K Review vs. AMD Ryzen - 10 Cores?! - YouTube

Zen4 X3D I bet will come early if raptor lake is fast enough. Hopefully that's the case -- since that is where the real zen 4 performance is. They're releasing the cache-less chips now to milk the market a bit.

X3D is just so fast... not sure why intel isn't trying to develop stacked cache (probably because they can't yeet their processors to 500W with it), it's such an amazing tech.
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#10
thegnome
This is just Cinebench though, it's probably higher in other tasks more akin to Ryzen. I can already see the Intel side claiming "buh muh just as fast as Alder Lake" and the AMD side claiming "buh muh only at 4.5 ghz!!111!". Very interested how the AMD keynote in just a few days will go.
"with future variants that have 3DV Cache."

Ah, maybe that's why there's no "800" CPU. Maybe it will be the Ryzen 7 7800X3D???
I'd say more like AMD lowering their 8 core SKU in price and clockspeed for binning reasons. Remember the 5800x and 5800x3d exist, so the "800" CPU can exist with both V-Cache and without. I wouldn't be suprised if AMD went for a 299$ 7700X to compete in pricing. I doubt anybody would get a 450$ 8 core Ryzen with a much more competitive Intel.
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#11
Broken Processor
dgianstefaniThis could make sense.
It's what I'm hoping to see
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#12
bruhmoment01
phanbuey

Sweet! Enjoying my 7700X ahem 12600K here...
Hey, AMD's uncontested lead was fun while it lasted :laugh:
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#13
phanbuey
AM4isGODImagine if Intel had paid TSMC for their X3D tech and not AMD? Yes TSMC invented it, not AMD
I can imagine it melting all over the P cores at 105C. jk.

Excited for this launch though - cant wait to see reviews @ DDR5 6000
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#14
AM4isGOD
phanbueyI can imagine it melting all over the P cores at 105C. jk.

Excited for this launch though - cant wait to see reviews @ DDR5 6000
I'm kinda intrigued, in some way i kinda wish i had not bought ADL, even though it is so good. I will probably jump on AM5 but not for a few weeks till it's had some Ageesa updates and reviews and i know what the shitty boards are, though i usually stick to Asus.
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#15
Denver
AM4isGODImagine if Intel had paid TSMC for their X3D tech and not AMD? Yes TSMC invented it, not AMD
I really doubt it wasn't specifically developed in partnership with AMD.

It will be impressive to see Zen4 CPUs with fewer cores, running with an air cooler and still beating "DogLake" 350w TDP chiller+ edition CPUs.
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#17
gffermari
Since AMD and intel follow different directions regarding the core layout (p cores vs p+E cores), the only things that matters are the numbers and the price.
Who really cares if the 12600K has 6 cores? What if the 13600K had 4 super p cores and a truck load of waste of sand cores and performed like crazy in games and in MT?

Practically the future is the big little concept. You don’t really need many cores for gaming. Only a few and ridiculously fast. The opposite in MT.

….and Intel is already there. AMD will need to make the jump into it in Zen 5.

on topic, the 7700X numbers are very promising but it has to be priced accordingly. The 12600K has the same numbers almost a year now…
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#18
dirtyferret
boring....

I want someone to come up with a CPU that has adderall cores, once the cores are active they don't stop and refuse to let your computer go into sleep mode. Maybe some beer muscle cores, cores that think they offer performance but give out about 1/4 of the way to peak frequency.
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#19
Vario
Looks great, really excited for the 7700X3D version.
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#20
AM4isGOD
Considering the fervour for the TSMC3D versions, i am surprised they have even bothered making the non TSMC3D versions
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#21
Makaveli
natr0nazn danny devito
looks nothing like danny devito :confused:
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#22
natr0n
Makavelilook nothing like danny devito :confused:
Had a quick look at him. im under anesthesia a bit i had a minor back procedure and groggy.
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#23
RedBear
AM4isGODConsidering the fervour for the TSMC3D versions, i am surprised they have even bothered making the non TSMC3D versions
They need CPUs that don't cost an arm and a leg, probably. Especially if these non 3D parts will turn out to be just as expensive as that Canadian retailer, PC-Canada, leaked, I can scarcely imagine just how expensive a 3D 6 cores Zen 4 CPU would be.
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#24
Crackong
Well this means Intel lost its single threaded headroom

Regular consumer CPUs might lose some in multi threaded because of the shear amount of power pumped into Intel CPUs.
X3D model(s) will dominate the gaming market.
And the Zen4 server products will keep its dominance.
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#25
ModEl4
I was expecting more.
If it's indicative it will give something like the below in CB23 multithreading if they squeeze every ounce of 230W:

7950X 37130
7900X 29110
7700X 19820
7600X 15170

Intel Raptor should look something like the below:

i9 13900K 38940
i7 13700K 28540
i5 13600K 22890
i5 13400 16050

AMD just can't compete with the old pricing ($799-299) level!
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