Saturday, September 24th 2022

SiSoftware Tests the Ryzen 5 7600X, Ryzen 7 7700X and Ryzen 9 7950X

The first reliable benchmark figures of AMD's Ryzen 7000-series CPUs have arrived, courtesy of SiSoftware. The benchmark suite software developer has released benchmark figures for the Ryzen 5 7600X and Ryzen 9 7950X. Keep in mind that these benchmarks are limited to the different tests in SiSoftware Sandra. Also note that the graphs for the Ryzen 5 7600X have typos, as the SiSoftware wrote Ryzen 5 7760X instead of 7600X and the Core i5-12600K is listed as a Core i7 CPU. Starting with the 7600X, the CPU appears to perform similar to, or slightly slower than the Intel Core i5-12600K in the arithmetic tests. On the other hand, it handily crushes the older Ryzen 5 5600X in every test here, by somewhere between 17 and 36 percent depending on the test.

Moving on to the vector SIMD tests, AMD's Zen 4 architecture shows much greater performance improvements, beating the Intel Core i5-12600K in all but one of the tests, where it loses by a fairly small margin. Here it beats the Ryzen 5 5600X by anything from 28 to a massive 86 percent. Where AMD's Zen 4 architecture really kicks things up a notch is in the image processing test, at least compared to the Zen 3 architecture, thanks to its AVX512 capabilities. As such, it's over twice as fast in many of the tests, but it still loses out in half of the tests to Intel's Core i5-12600K. AMD has also improved the inter-thread/core latency in the same module, by a not insignificant amount. Where the Ryzen 5 7600X doesn't fare so well is when it comes to performance vs. power, largely due to the fact that AMD moved the TDP from 65 to 105 W, but it still offers better performance per Watt than Intel's current models.

Update 17:31 UTC: Updated with the Ryzen 7 7700X results.
Moving on to the Ryzen 9 7950X things are looking a lot more impressive, beating all the current competition by quite some margin. On average in the arithmetic test, the Ryzen 9 7950X beats its predecessor by anywhere from 30 to 45 percent, with the Intel Core i9-12900K falling even further behind. The latter wasn't unexpected, as the Ryzen 9 5950X was already beating it in this test. In the vector SIMD tests we're seeing similar results, with the Ryzen 9 7950X outclassing the competition by an average of 60 percent improved performance. Things are looking even better in the image processing test, with the Ryzen 9 7950X being twice as fast or faster than the Ryzen 9 5950X, in five out of eight tests. It does lose out to the Intel Core i9-12900K in one of the tests by a fair margin, but beats it in most of the other tests by an equally fair or sometimes even bigger margin.

As with the Ryzen 6 7600X, the inter-thread/core latency has been improved, but the inter-module latency has increased by almost 10 ns versus the Ryzen 9 5950X in SiSoftware's tests. Thanks to its huge overall increase in performance, the performance vs. power efficiency improves over the Ryzen 9 5950X, even though it's only by seven percent, once again thanks to AMD's change in TDP levels, this time from 142 to 230 Watt. It'll be interesting to see how Intel's 13th generation of Core i processors will compare, but based on the SiSoftware numbers, the Ryzen 9 7950X looks like it's going to be a performance beast when it comes to multitasking applications.

As SiSoftware had also tested the Ryzen 7 7700X, we thought it only prudent to add the results of the same tests that we did for the other two CPUs. It seems to be on par with Intel's Core i7-12700K in the arithmetic tests, but outperforms it with a reasonable margin in all of the vector SIMD tests. In the image processing tests it's some wins, some losses, but overall among all the tests, AMD comes out slightly on top of Intel. As the Ryzen 7 7700X is still a 105 W part, it performs the best in SiSoftwares performance vs. power comparison, being 39 percent more power efficient than the Ryzen 7 5800X.
Sources: SiSoftware Ryzen 5 7600X, SiSoftware Ryzen 9 7950X
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72 Comments on SiSoftware Tests the Ryzen 5 7600X, Ryzen 7 7700X and Ryzen 9 7950X

#26
Dirt Chip
Comparing the 7000 to 12000 right now is bad. RL is right around the corner.
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#27
Valantar
Dirt ChipComparing the 7000 to 12000 right now is bad. RL is right around the corner.
... and they are somehow supposed to compare them to unannounced, entirely unofficial products that they most likely don't have?

People keep saying this, as if it makes any kind of sense as an argument. You compare what exists with what exists - today. Then, when something new comes into existence, you compare them again. You don't wait for the next thing - then you'd never be able to compare anything at all. And, crucially, having access to early silicon for one series of CPUs - announced, with an impending launch date - does not necessarily mean you have access to early silicon to another - unannounced, more distant - series.

If you have a meal and talk about its quality, do you compare it to things you have already eaten, or do you talk about how it might compare to what you'll be eating tomorrow?
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#28
ARF
Valantar... and they are somehow supposed to compare them to unannounced, entirely unofficial products that they most likely don't have?
Both are unreleased but they do exist. If they cared, they could find a way to find a 13th gen CPU and compare apples-to-apples!
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#29
Valantar
ARFBoth are unreleased but they do exist. If they cared, they could find a way to find a 13th gen CPU and compare apples-to-apples!
You're joking, right?
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#30
Dirt Chip
Valantar... and they are somehow supposed to compare them to unannounced, entirely unofficial products that they most likely don't have?

People keep saying this, as if it makes any kind of sense as an argument. You compare what exists with what exists - today. Then, when something new comes into existence, you compare them again. You don't wait for the next thing - then you'd never be able to compare anything at all. And, crucially, having access to early silicon for one series of CPUs - announced, with an impending launch date - does not necessarily mean you have access to early silicon to another - unannounced, more distant - series.

If you have a meal and talk about its quality, do you compare it to things you have already eaten, or do you talk about how it might compare to what you'll be eating tomorrow?
It is a waste of time, that what it is.

If you comper burgers and visited 2 brands and on your way to the 3rd, please wait till you finish the 3rd Burger before expressing your conclusions.
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#31
metalkhor
Isn't Ryzen 5 supposed to be 7600X? why in charts its called 7760X??
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#32
phanbuey
zaku49Yet there are some major uplifts in performance when using it, by limiting it's availability like intel has you're going to see a limitation in developers wanting to even play with it.

Due to the fact that the RPCS emulator sees a major uplift in using it tells me there's a lot of hidden potential in it.

Also, intel wants to lock it into their server market only because of $$.
I've had avx 512 since the skylake 7820x... there's a ps3 emulator that uses it. Games don't use it since they don't need the SIMD math performance -- they have a GPU attached. Some video encoders and scientific simulators use it, but again -- you're competing with GPUs -- really anythingsavx512 is really great for is much, much faster done on the GPU.

Zen4's secret weapon isn't AVX512... it's 3d cache, and amd is waiting to release that only because of $$.
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#33
TheLostSwede
News Editor
metalkhorIsn't Ryzen 5 supposed to be 7600X? why in charts its called 7760X??
As I pointed out, it's a typo. They messed up the Intel chip in those same graphs too.
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#34
HD64G
FrickWhat reviews?
The ones Sisoft posted and being in the original post.
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#35
Valantar
Dirt ChipIt is a waste of time, that what it is.

If you comper burgers and visited 2 brands and on your way to the 3rd, please wait till you finish the 3rd Burger before expressing your conclusions.
What? No. That's a terrible approach. You compare the first two first, to hash out your impressions and thoughts, identify points of comparison, qualities of each, etc. Then you bring that knowledge to the third, and let that inform the final comparison (including any entirely new findings). Waiting until you've had all three - unless they're right after each other with no gaps - muddies your recollection of the two first ones, making the final comparison more difficult and less accurate.

And, once again, by that logic you would literally never be able to compare anything, as there's always something new coming. Always.

@ARF: the reason I hope you're joking: Not only are you portraying a fantasy-land idea of how people get access to pre-release hardware ("If they cared, they could find a way" - tell me, do you have a 13th gen CPU? Could you get one if you cared enough?), but you must understand that prematurely leaking something like this, before the product is even announced (unlike Zen4, which is launching in three days) would seriously jeopardize the very same relationship they might have with Intel that might grant them access to such hardware for development purposes.
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#36
ARF
Well, I think in both cases the NDA is violated.
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#37
Valantar
ARFWell, I think in both cases the NDA is violated.
That depends on the terms of said NDA, if there is one at all, or if there is some other kind of agreement. But even without that, what matters isn't so much the potential contractual violation as the violation of trust. If you trust someone and they screw you over, you don't trust them again.
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#38
docnorth
ARFWait for the Raptor Lake reviews!


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That’s the obvious and best choice, after that we can choose between Raptor Lake, Ryzen 7000, Alder Lake and even Ryzen 5000. Couldn’t care less about platform longevity, I always try to choose my CPU wisely for my needs.
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#39
Daven
ValantarWhat? No. That's a terrible approach. You compare the first two first, to hash out your impressions and thoughts, identify points of comparison, qualities of each, etc. Then you bring that knowledge to the third, and let that inform the final comparison (including any entirely new findings). Waiting until you've had all three - unless they're right after each other with no gaps - muddies your recollection of the two first ones, making the final comparison more difficult and less accurate.

And, once again, by that logic you would literally never be able to compare anything, as there's always something new coming. Always.

@ARF: the reason I hope you're joking: Not only are you portraying a fantasy-land idea of how people get access to pre-release hardware ("If they cared, they could find a way" - tell me, do you have a 13th gen CPU? Could you get one if you cared enough?), but you must understand that prematurely leaking something like this, before the product is even announced (unlike Zen4, which is launching in three days) would seriously jeopardize the very same relationship they might have with Intel that might grant them access to such hardware for development purposes.
The only reason and I mean only reason why some want to perpetually compare something that is unreleased is when they are routing for that unreleased thing in hopes that it will narrow or out right beat what they are not routing for. Some here want Intel to always be ahead so they cast constant whataboutisms. Same goes for those who like AMD. Its a nuisance but ever present ‘feature’ of internet comments.

Hey they didn’t compare X to Y so I can go to sleep happy in my thoughts tonight.
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#40
mama
docnorthThat’s the obvious and best choice, after that we can choose between Raptor Lake, Ryzen 7000, Alder Lake and even Ryzen 5000. Couldn’t care less about platform longevity, I always try to choose my CPU wisely for my needs.
I don't agree. Platform longevity is a major factor. AM5 is at the start of the journey. Raptor Lake is the final hurrah for the platform. While Raptor Lake has a more mature platform with conceivably fewer teething issues, if one is putting together a new build then AM5 offers the 7000 generation and several further generations on the same platform which from an economic and eventual stability perspective is the better choice. While I always wait for reviews, those advocating for people to wait for Raptor Lake before jumping have discounted the wider view.
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#41
cvaldes
mamaI don't agree. Platform longevity is a major factor. AM5 is at the start of the journey. Raptor Lake is the final hurrah for the platform.
Say, doesn't Intel change platforms every other year?
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#42
trsttte
ValantarThat depends on the terms of said NDA, if there is one at all, or if there is some other kind of agreement. But even without that, what matters isn't so much the potential contractual violation as the violation of trust. If you trust someone and they screw you over, you don't trust them again.
Not to mention that some of the Zen4 cpus where being sold before the official launch date, it would be hard to enforce an NDA on something that they can buy themselves.

www.techpowerup.com/299030/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-up-for-sale-in-europe-and-china
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#43
Pepamami
ARFSo, intel doesn't use AVX-512, and somehow AMD thinks it will make use of it? How? When? Why?
Probably AMD use same CCDs for servers and users
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#44
Count von Schwalbe
Nocturnus Moderatus
PepamamiProbably AMD use same CCDs for servers and users
That sounds likely. What confuses and even baffles me is why Intel included it in the Golden Cove cores - when each CPU is monolithic and is not reused among multiple segments. If the hybrid architecture was to maximize core counts in a given die area, why in thunder did they add the space-hog of AVX-512?!?

However, using identical chiplets across all market segments could boost adoption of new SIMD instruction sets if/when Intel starts doing the same thing.

I kinda hope Zen 4 comes in smaller chiplets as well, for the low end. However, monolithic dice (recycled from mobile) seem more likely there, to keep package costs down.
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#45
Dirt Chip
ValantarWhat? No. That's a terrible approach. You compare the first two first, to hash out your impressions and thoughts, identify points of comparison, qualities of each, etc. Then you bring that knowledge to the third, and let that inform the final comparison (including any entirely new findings). Waiting until you've had all three - unless they're right after each other with no gaps - muddies your recollection of the two first ones, making the final comparison more difficult and less accurate.

And, once again, by that logic you would literally never be able to compare anything, as there's always something new coming. Always.

@ARF: the reason I hope you're joking: Not only are you portraying a fantasy-land idea of how people get access to pre-release hardware ("If they cared, they could find a way" - tell me, do you have a 13th gen CPU? Could you get one if you cared enough?), but you must understand that prematurely leaking something like this, before the product is even announced (unlike Zen4, which is launching in three days) would seriously jeopardize the very same relationship they might have with Intel that might grant them access to such hardware for development purposes.
The RL lunch is so here, that's why you better wait. If it wasn't so imminent I would totally agree with you.
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#46
lunusx
I heard the Raphael chips don't lose much when you turn down the power and are very efficient. As powerful as these chips are I'd probably never need full power anyways right now. I usually crank the juice up and o.c. when it's getting close to upgrade time.
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#47
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
HD64GThe ones Sisoft posted and being in the original post.
Those aren't reviews.
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#48
DeathtoGnomes
TheLostSwedeAMD has also improved the inter-thread/core latency in the same module, by a not insignificant amount.
I think this is the best under-reported item.
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#49
HD64G
FrickThose aren't reviews.
Look what they have posted and what they called it.
FrickThose aren't reviews.
So, you didn't visit their website. Let me help you and your welcome. :toast:
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#50
Valantar
DeathtoGnomesI think this is the best under-reported item.
It'll be very interesting to see Anandtech's review (if they have one - the slow death of that site makes me so sad!), as they test core-to-core latencies between every core of the CPU. IIRC they were already significantly ahead of the latest Intel architectures per CCD though.
HD64GLook what they have posted and what they called it.

So, you didn't visit their website. Let me help you and your welcome. :toast:
I'd still be inclined to say that isn't a review as the word is commonly used. Crucially, they haven't actually tested the chips themselves:
the products have not been directly tested by SiSoftware and thus the accuracy of the benchmark scores cannot be verified; however, they appear consistent and do not appear to be false/fake.
(from the 7600X source link.)
It'd be more accurate to call it an analysis of (unverified but seemingly trustworthy) third party benchmark data. Without running the tests themselves it's impossible to control for all the variables involved.
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