Thursday, December 1st 2022
US Might Reimpose GPU Import Tariffs in the New Year
Currently, the US has an exclusion in place when it comes to import tariffs relating to graphics cards and GPUs imported from China, but the exclusion is set to expire on the 31st of December this year. So far, the US government has been quiet on whether or not the import tariff will be reinstated or not. If the tariff was to be reinstated, US consumers are looking at a 25 percent import duty on graphics cards, starting on the 1st of January, 2023.
There's no easy way to circumvent the tariff either, as it includes items like "printed circuit assemblies, constituting unfinished logic boards," according to Tom's Hardware. Not all graphics cards are made in China though, but the majority of graphics cards are today. It's possible that NVIDIA's move of its logistics center from Hong Kong to Taiwan could have some relation to this as well, as NVIDIA would then be shipping products out of Taiwan, rather than China, depending on how the US Customs classifies Hong Kong these days. We should know what happens in a month's time, but a 25 percent import duty on graphics cards will likely kill most sales, as most people already find them overpriced. This would of course affect AMD and NVIDIA, as well as their partners in the same way, unless they make their graphics cards outside of China.
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Tom's Hardware
There's no easy way to circumvent the tariff either, as it includes items like "printed circuit assemblies, constituting unfinished logic boards," according to Tom's Hardware. Not all graphics cards are made in China though, but the majority of graphics cards are today. It's possible that NVIDIA's move of its logistics center from Hong Kong to Taiwan could have some relation to this as well, as NVIDIA would then be shipping products out of Taiwan, rather than China, depending on how the US Customs classifies Hong Kong these days. We should know what happens in a month's time, but a 25 percent import duty on graphics cards will likely kill most sales, as most people already find them overpriced. This would of course affect AMD and NVIDIA, as well as their partners in the same way, unless they make their graphics cards outside of China.
108 Comments on US Might Reimpose GPU Import Tariffs in the New Year
Maybe all that sounds good on paper to you but I can guarantee to you that the reality is all different here.
Truth to be told the kind of hardware I have atm is luxury around here and I'm lucky to have it..
Homeless and Infrastructure lol do a google or whatever search about Hungary then come back to me.:rolleyes: 'sry for that outburst but I can't stand it when ppl from good ol Murica comes at me saying how its not so bad here when I'm the one living in this shit ass of a country, give me a break..'
www.pcmag.com/news/how-trumps-tariff-hike-may-affect-prices-for-pc-parts
www.pcmag.com/news/trump-lifts-tariffs-on-certain-pc-computer-parts
www.pcmag.com/news/gpu-pricing-relief-us-temporarily-lifts-trump-era-tariffs-on-graphics-cards
From your own articles:None of that matters to my point though, which you are sort of proving.
The first thing my best friend did when he graduated was move to Texas to work as a latin dance instructor, and he desperately tried to stay there. When I lived in Vancouver you meet massive numbers of immigrants. They all say "I tried to move to the US but couldn't get a VISA, so since Canada is easy, I moved here, and I plan to move to the US later when I can". The number of times I've made friends with Koreans that just stay in Canada until they can move to the US is hilarious. 100 thousand of them in Canada all trying to leave Canada after arriving there.
ETC. Don't spread that nonsense about social services and taxes. It isn't true. If you want a lot of social services, move to a state that provides a lot of them.
I think the tariffs are a great idea. There should be a general 30 percent tariff on every good coming from China. There is a large world out there. The US can buy from any of the other 200 countries. Japan, Korea, Taiwan, and Indonesia for example. Vietnam and The Philippines also. India. The list goes on.
There is a good reason for the tariffs. The US should not be transferring all the money and technology, particularly for advanced chip making, to China. The US is already overly dependent there on Taiwan, at least Taiwan is an ally.
Half the reason nobody tariffed the US is because the US navy served as piracy protection for the world's oceanic shipping since the end of WWII. Many have forgotten that promise. Since Ol' Orange pushed the chinese tariffs, notice how companies like TSMC have been looking into setting up fabs in other countries, and manufacturing is slowly moving to vietnam and other parts of asia? It's not the only reason, but it did play a part on fabs leading the way.
I see your point on steel and raise the opposing point: that if the US hadnt waited until their domestic steel industry rusted away, the tariffs would not have caused such harm.
Come on, everyone knows the US is where most migrants want to go. The US system has the longest wait times. The US has the most immigrants of any country. 20 percent+ of all immigrants end up in the US (and many wanted to go to the US but couldn't, many Canadian and Australian migrants for example choose those countries as their second choice. Syrian migrants were accepted in Germany so went there, they couldn't get to the US).
I believe the US has 4 times has many migrants as the second place country, Germany. Also people after arriving in the US don't want to leave. They have the lowest number of EMMIGRANTS. 1 percent. A Polish person is 4 times more likely to emigrate as an American. So do obvious countries, like China or Syria etc. Facts are pretty straight forward here.
The US has less diversity for their immigrants, obviously having a lot of Mexican and south American immigrants (millions every year walking across the border right now if you include the illegals).Those immigrants are not as noticeable as the ones in Canada. But a large part of that reason is the US has a broken system that relies on family reunification as well as a broken border. Canada and other countries prefer "qualified" applicants in comparison, and have strict borders. Just try and cross the Taiwanese border illegally.
Plus pretty sure he's a native citizen of South Africa.
The large wait times are due to the USA being very slow to admit and being generally better than anything south of it, not east/west/north. Good for us being better than South America I guess.
The US won't make a lot of friends with their "America First" policies. If democratic countries do not stick together now Winnie Pooh will eat us for lunch.
Full list here: ustr.gov/sites/default/files/notices/FRN%20for%20Notice%20of%20Reinstatement.pdf
This was clearly seen with first China tariffs, when even companies with headquarters in EU or Asia, and even ones not present in US market followed suit - because they could. If all your competition raises prices, and you don't have the ability to flood the market with your cheaper product, you raise the price and raise your profit. Basic economics.
But of course there are no graphics cards developed outside US. Nvidia, AMD, Intel are all US companies, and that matters more than where the AIB makers are.