Friday, December 9th 2022

Intel Core i9-13900KS Confirmed with 150W Base Power and 6 GHz Boost Speed

Intel is expanding its 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" desktop processor family with a number of new SKUs, led by the new flagship Core i9-13900KS. A leaked company slide confirmed the upper-end SKUs' specs. Led from the top, the new i9-13900KS packs the same 8P+16E (8 performance cores + 16 efficiency cores) configuration as the i9-13900K. It has a slightly higher 3.20 GHz base frequency compared to the 3.00 GHz of the i9-13900K, but boosts all the way up to 6.00 GHz, compared to 5.80 GHz of the i9-13900K. To ensure improved boost frequency residency, Intel bumped up the processor base power value from 125 W to 150 W, while leaving the maximum turbo power value untouched at 253 W.

We also see the specs of the non-K Core i9-13900 and Core i7-13700, which offer the same 8P+16E and 8P+8E core-configs as the i9-13900K and i9-13700K, respectively, but without unlocked multipliers. The i9-13900 ticks at 2.00 GHz with 5.60 GHz maximum turbo frequency, whereas the i7-13700 does 2.10 GHz base, with up to 5.20 GHz boost, compared to 3.40 GHz base and 5.40 GHz boost of the i7-13700K. As "locked" chips both have lower processor base power values of just 65 W, and maximum turbo power values of 219 W. Both these chips could include a cooling solution in the box, which is very likely the Laminar RH1 stock cooler that company includes with the i9-12900 and i9-12700. Intel is expected to announce these chips alongside a large number of 13th Gen Core i5 SKUs on January 3.
Sources: HXL (Twitter), VideoCardz
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27 Comments on Intel Core i9-13900KS Confirmed with 150W Base Power and 6 GHz Boost Speed

#1
stimpy88
So Intel has to overclock the snot out of their products in order to compete. Zen43D will be interesting, as will Zen5.
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#3
DeathtoGnomes
Crackong150 350W processor

350w with your egg?
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#4
pavle
Well it IS a cold winter, but this is just ridiculous. Who wants to be the king of the hill? :)
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#5
Chaitanya
Crackong150 350W processor
Their "High end" laptop CPUs are 135W, so calling this 150W is quite funny.
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#6
Darmok N Jalad
Add 25W to get 200mhz (or a 3% increase). Spaceball 1 has gone plaid.
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#7
Dirt Chip
stimpy88So Intel has to overclock the snot out of their products in order to compete. Zen43D will be interesting, as will Zen5.
This 6GHz over OC still won't help vs ZEN 4-3D in the games that utilize the extra catch, but will do some good in all other (many) cases and for extra $$$.
Anyway, the 13900K/KS isn`t the right CPU if you are into gaming mainly, but if AMD will set the cost acorrding to it the consumer will loss no matter what.
Power consumption will be outrageous when limits are down, that is for sure, saturation of the EPS connector is not so far now.
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#8
Leshy
SlizzoYou realize that the 5800X3D beat the 12900K in pretty much all gaming tasks, right?
if ''pretty much all'' means 50/50, then i agree
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#9
Darmok N Jalad
Bah, first, second. Let’s not carry water for these corporations. We have choices, and they are competitive.
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#10
95Viper
Stay on topic.
Stop the insulting.
Stop the trolling.
Follow the guidelines.
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#11
GhostRyder
Hmm, I am interested in how the 200mhz extra boost attributes to the performance and wattage at the high end in the real world. Mostly curious because of cooling needs.

Wonder if it will overclock further!
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#12
Vayra86
Wow, now that is a show of weakness if I've ever seen one.

They're being 'honest' about it too. lol.
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#13
Gica
The target is the psychological threshold of 6GHz. Be the first to touch it.
The signal is that you will buy the best silicon if you are passionate about overclocking.
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#14
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
So, this is such a small difference that surely a regular 13900K could do it with a slight overclock? Sounds like it's just binning.
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DeathtoGnomes
350w with your egg?
Haha, genius! :laugh:
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#15
Chrispy_
Putting 150W and 6GHz in the same sentence is dishonesty.
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#16
Vayra86
qubitSo, this is such a small difference that surely a regular 13900K could do it with a slight overclock? Sounds like it's just binning.
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Haha, genius! :laugh:
Its not even binning is it when they have to add 25W base power... they do that to achieve their whoppin 200 mhz baseclock upgrade! And we allknow peak TDP is shown as a similar number but that only happens because the rest of the sheet says 'up to' on peak frequency.

This is just a shameless product all the way, you have to be a unique type of idiot to pay for this I think.
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#17
Gica
Vayra86Its not even binning is it when they have to add 25W base power... they do that to achieve their whoppin 200 mhz baseclock upgrade! And we allknow peak TDP is shown as a similar number but that only happens because the rest of the sheet says 'up to' on peak frequency.

This is just a shameless product all the way, you have to be a unique type of idiot to pay for this I think.
If you have never had an Intel processor in your life, it is easy to make such statements. You probably consider yourself a genius.
With the same PL2, the 13900KS will be equal to or marginally exceed the 12900K in some applications (like Blender), but it can even bring a 10% increase in others (like Lightroom). I keep repeating that (example) a 20 or 30% slower in renderings/encodings is not a tragedy (the computer can work without your assistance, you can sleep during this time), but it is comforting to have extra performance when working with it. With PL1 increased from 125W to 150W, they have a much more aggressive processor response in the entire frequency range.
If the wind blows through our pockets and we ask the seller how much a muffin costs, KS is not worth it. I can't even afford it.
For those who break the cost of 2-3KS in a night in clubs, the price is moderate for the best processor on this socket. Overclockers also hunt it.
According to your reasoning, you are an idiot if you drink a Pepsi, Cola, beer or any other drink. You only have water available, cheaper and healthier.
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#18
chrcoluk
Really not liking now of current gen products been released with stock way up the power curve. The only good thing is its basically a supported pre overclocked product which has some value, but the focus is well and truly away from energy consumption now.
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#19
ThrashZone
Vayra86Its not even binning is it when they have to add 25W base power... they do that to achieve their whoppin 200 mhz baseclock upgrade! And we allknow peak TDP is shown as a similar number but that only happens because the rest of the sheet says 'up to' on peak frequency.

This is just a shameless product all the way, you have to be a unique type of idiot to pay for this I think.
Hi,
Think Intel is all about binning bud otherwise there wouldn't be a kfc version in the first place it's not just a lunch hotspot :laugh:
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#20
mplayerMuPDF
ThrashZoneHi,
Think Intel is all about binning bud otherwise there wouldn't be a kfc version in the first place it's not just a lunch hotspot :laugh:
yes, in hindsight it is ridiculous that people actually paid a significant premium for dual core mobile i7s not too long ago, which fundamentally were not any different than i5s.
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#21
Vayra86
GicaIf you have never had an Intel processor in your life, it is easy to make such statements. You probably consider yourself a genius.
With the same PL2, the 13900KS will be equal to or marginally exceed the 12900K in some applications (like Blender), but it can even bring a 10% increase in others (like Lightroom). I keep repeating that (example) a 20 or 30% slower in renderings/encodings is not a tragedy (the computer can work without your assistance, you can sleep during this time), but it is comforting to have extra performance when working with it. With PL1 increased from 125W to 150W, they have a much more aggressive processor response in the entire frequency range.
If the wind blows through our pockets and we ask the seller how much a muffin costs, KS is not worth it. I can't even afford it.
For those who break the cost of 2-3KS in a night in clubs, the price is moderate for the best processor on this socket. Overclockers also hunt it.
According to your reasoning, you are an idiot if you drink a Pepsi, Cola, beer or any other drink. You only have water available, cheaper and healthier.
Que? Check my system specs. The rest is incoherent drivel; yes there are niche markets for this CPU. Its like Ferraris. Its still a ridiculous product with perceived value but not any actual over a K version, proven by base power TDP bump. Its not a better chip. It just costs more.
ThrashZoneHi,
Think Intel is all about binning bud otherwise there wouldn't be a kfc version in the first place it's not just a lunch hotspot :laugh:
I think that binning in any real measure is over when they can only achieve frequency increase with power increase over an already inflated K cpu. The K is already at peak. More just needs the security of expanded TDP or is unreliable to achieve its baseclock increase. The top end increase (turbo) is then also achieved by momentarily exceeding stated peak TDP, or just not at all as specs say 'up to'.
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#22
Waldorf
@Gica in most countries, water (tap) will not really be healthier anymore (lead/heavy metals/chemicals, medical/drug residue)..

@Vayra86
more like a "tuned - +1000HP" lambo, that most likely no one outside the US/Russia/Arab countries will buy,
as its really about bragging rights, as short of driving on certain highways in Germany/some US states, most will never really be able to make use its full power, similar to this chip (outside ocers or hdet/workstation)..
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#23
Jimmy_
350WAaaaaaaaaaaaaTTS!
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#24
Gica
Vayra86Que? Check my system specs. The rest is incoherent drivel; yes there are niche markets for this CPU. Its like Ferraris. Its still a ridiculous product with perceived value but not any actual over a K version, proven by base power TDP bump. Its not a better chip. It just costs more.
It is definitely a better processor than 13900K. For many it matters that it is the best on this socket.
If we are still talking about Ferrari, the sports car does not justify its price in relation to a classic car. However, they can be bought and we all dream of one, right?
It's stupid, if I may, to bring consumption into discussion at this level. If you are serving a meal at a luxury restaurant, don't be afraid of the price of a bun.
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#25
Waldorf
@Gica

little OT here:
virtually all "classic" cars worth north of 1M, are usually sports cars (less than 4 seats) from about a dozen (mainly European) brands.
and most sports cars that are produced less than 500 times, increase in value within a decade.

to consider consumption isnt stupid, even at this level:
a porsche 918 spyder has almost 900HP, yet is more fuel efficient, with less emissions than a 150HP toyota prius...

its one thing if something is "pricey", that doesnt mean i need to waste money/resources for no reason (as in gaining minute perf improvements).
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