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NVIDIA France Accidentally Reveals GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Specs
With less than a week to go until the official launch of the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, NVIDIA France has gone and spoiled things by revealing the official specs of the upcoming GPU. The French division of NVIDIA appears to have posted the full product page, but it has since then been pulled. That didn't prevent Twitter leaker @momomo_us from snapping a couple of screenshots, including that of the official performance numbers from NVIDIA.
There aren't any real surprises here though, as we already knew the CUDA core count and the memory size, courtesy of the RTX 4070 Ti having been the RTX 4080 12 GB, until NVIDIA changed its mind. It's interesting to see that NVIDIA compares the RTX 4070 Ti to the RTX 3080 12 GB in the three official benchmarks, as it makes the RTX 4070 Ti look a lot better than it is in reality, at least based on the rumoured MSRP of US$800-900. One of the three benchmarks is Cyberpunk 2077 using Raytracingl, where NVIDIA suggests the RTX 4070 Ti is around 3.5 times faster than the RTX 3080, but it's worth reading the fine print. We'll know next week how the RTX 4070 Ti actually performs, as well as where the official pricing and actual retail pricing ends up.
Sources:
NVIDIA France (reverted to older page), via @momomo_us
There aren't any real surprises here though, as we already knew the CUDA core count and the memory size, courtesy of the RTX 4070 Ti having been the RTX 4080 12 GB, until NVIDIA changed its mind. It's interesting to see that NVIDIA compares the RTX 4070 Ti to the RTX 3080 12 GB in the three official benchmarks, as it makes the RTX 4070 Ti look a lot better than it is in reality, at least based on the rumoured MSRP of US$800-900. One of the three benchmarks is Cyberpunk 2077 using Raytracingl, where NVIDIA suggests the RTX 4070 Ti is around 3.5 times faster than the RTX 3080, but it's worth reading the fine print. We'll know next week how the RTX 4070 Ti actually performs, as well as where the official pricing and actual retail pricing ends up.
102 Comments on NVIDIA France Accidentally Reveals GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Specs
Awesome!
WCCFTech:
[URL='https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-4070-ti-official-benchmarks-leak-out-as-fast-as-the-rtx-3090-ti-but-40-of-the-msrp/']NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti Official Benchmarks Leak Out – As Fast As The RTX 3090 Ti But 40% Of The MSRP[/URL]
“The official MSRP of the card is $799, which is $1200 less than the $1999 MSRP of the RTX 3090 Ti.”Do the review and news sites really have no shame?
We all know RTX 3090 Ti came out at the height of cryptomadness. After the miners completely stopped buying the cards, the MSRP fell, first to $1500, then to $1150, and cards were even sold below that, at $1000 in USA, at 50% of original MSRP… The price went up of course when the RTX 4080 came out, with the terrible price / performance ratio.
The conclusion:
“While the RTX 4090 sold like hot cakes considering the value proposition it was giving on a TFLOPs/$ basis, the RTX 4080 did not do well at all considering the bad price point. The RTX 4070 Ti is much much closer to the value proposition that the RTX 4090 made and should sell much better as well.”
Only because you compare it to scalped price levels! And I seriously doubt RTX 4070 Ti will be “as fast as 3090 Ti” - by TechPowerUp numbers 4080 16GB is only 2% faster than 3090 Ti in 1440p, 4% in 4K - undetectable without benchmarking. What are the odds 4070 Ti being as fast at $500 less?
So, remember when W1zzard wrote in RTX 4080 review that we have to compare it to scalped price levels of Ampere, not “fake” $699 MSRP of 3080? A line that he then removed from conclusion? Will the shenanigans return with RTX 4070 Ti review, this time someone will be able to use “real 3090 Ti MSRP”? And then tell us he wasn’t pressured by Nvidia to tell such blatant lies at all?
the curious case here is 4090 that is barely 25% faster in games and people are paying an exorbitant amounts of money for it currently no less than 2199. In this case 4070 Ti is actually a very good deal.
- The 3090 Ti is 22% faster than the 3080.
- The 3080's launch price was $699.
- So, compared to the 3080, the 4070 Ti will be 22% faster and 14% more expensive.
They can compare the performance of the new mid-range to the last high-end, but never the price! This is classical 40-series price/performance stagnation, all over again. :banghead:The truth about RTX 4070 Ti will be revealed in the reviews, and whether its resources are well balanced or not will become obvious. But if you need to push loads so heavy that the card is nowhere close to a decent frame rate anyways to reveal a memory bottleneck, then it's utterly irrelevant anyways.
You do realize that the 3070 gets 9 FPS at 1440p in the linked benchmark right?
You gonna tell me that's an unrealistic load for what is still the latest xx70 card on the market?
It's a $500 GPU that most people payed over $1,000 for. That kind of performance is unacceptable for a card that's still the newest xx 70 card on the market and especially considering the price.
What you are essentially saying is that even spending that kind of money you are not guaranteed even playable performance in all titles for a single generation anymore.
What a great precedent to defend. You do you though.
I have to admit I haven't read the thread, but, with Nvidia controlling 90% of the market, AMD's RDNA3 looking as a failure to at least create some positive news for AMD, Nvidia selling fake frames that most tech sites describe as something positive, because those extra frames can make games look more smooth, is there anything of real interest in the GPU market? Will there be anything interesting in the next 2 years? Even Intel is not in any kind of rush. They don't need to be competitive to AMD or Nvidia to sell everything they build to OEMs.
So, Nvidia will keep selling as many GPUs as it can make, prices will keep going up generation after generation and people will be blaming AMD for that, instead of Nvidia (my God...). Then AMD's FSR 3 will be announced and we will start looking analysis after analysis about which method of generating fake frames is better. Prices will remain high for everything that has an MSRP over $600, cheaper models will just be the same performance/$ as those that we have now and the whole debate will be if lower power consumption and DLSS 3/FSR 3 are enough to be justified as progress.
Welcome to stagnation people.
What? Ah yes, it's AMD's fault. Of course.
But let's not forget something. Intel and Nvidia are two much more powerful companies. They decide prices, they decide performance at a specific price point, they control the market, they control the press. Not AMD. AMD is just fighting against two bigger companies at the same time. And please, we are consumers. Do we want good stuff at the right price? Then STOP DEFENDING THE BIG COMPANIES. It's not about AMD, Intel or Nvidia peeps. It's about what performance/$ we wish to enjoy as consumers, gamers, enthusiasts, professionals.
Then, the only thing left to say will be "told 'ya".
(because DLSS is sooo much better at worsening your game's image quality when you could also play at native resolution, of course) :roll:
Posters.
AMD builds Ryzen. More cores than Intel. For years single threaded performance is king.
AMD builds better Ryzen chips. Higher IPC, much better efficiency. Who cares about wattage?
Intel comes out with Alder Lake. Core count is king now. Who cares if most cores are E cores?
In the past Intel motherboards where expensive. Platform pricing was secondary. Today a reason to avoid AM5.
Tech sites.
RX 6500XT comes out in a period where NO ONE could buy a graphics card at MSRP. Tech press rushes to attack the product in any way possible.
GTX 1630 comes out. Many sites avoid even mentioning it. Not to upset Nvidia probably. Not to throw any kind of shadow on that Nvidia logo.
AMD drops prices on RX 6000 series from the most expensive model to the lowest one. No articles. Just foot notes on articles praising the price reduction on RTX 3090 Ti from ridiculously expensive to just expensive. Nvidia doesn't drop prices to mid/low end cards. Tech sites publish articles where they are praising the fact that "Nvidia dropped prices". Again it is about 3090/Ti cards, but the titles are made to give the impression that all Nvidia cards see price reductions.
I could be writting for hours. I'll just stop here.
Stop the insults, trolling, and other guideline violations.
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Writing that the price increase is justified by the great performance increase - when almost every generation in the long history of 3D graphics cards featured similar performance increase without the price increase can only be explained as tech press acting as a company PR, not an independent reviewer.