AleXXX666rich or not rich, the 50 EUR drop on EUR 1000 PC is NOTHING, SAME as buying used car for 10000 EUR and having 100 EUR "discount" is just LOL.

But you are fundamentally wrong and have a desperate lack of logic. The ultra budget user looking for sub 100 motherboards is aiming for a budget machine within 400-450 max, no more.

There are CPU's and APU's that are sub-$100 for AM4. If those are selling, how much do you think those customers are spending on the motherboards?

If AM5 is to replicate the success of AM4, they neeeeeed these cheap motherboards.

AleXXX666rich or not rich, the 50 EUR drop on EUR 1000 PC is NOTHING, SAME as buying used car for 10000 EUR and having 100 EUR "discount" is just LOL.

When you have a solid budget, you aren't going to go past it. 50EUR can be nothing for you, but for a budget gamer, it's a noticeable amount of money, including myself.

AleXXX666rich or not rich, the 50 EUR drop on EUR 1000 PC is NOTHING, SAME as buying used car for 10000 EUR and having 100 EUR "discount" is just LOL.

Nonsense! And wrong scale with car example. Dude, mind the scale...
Also, everything was explained in previous posts. Read it before you post another nonsense.
Saving €50 on €500 entry PC is substantial for millions of people, epsecially younger PC builders in not so rich countries who are more financially dependant and constrained. If you do not value alleged €100 on €10,000 car, you will never value €50 either.

KissamiesWhen you have a solid budget, you aren't going to go past it. 50EUR can be nothing for you, but for a budget gamer, it's a noticeable amount of money, including myself.

for me $50 is also decent amount of money. But, I have considered buying used 3070 Ti for $550 rather than getting 3060 Ti for $350. Because, "starting price point" for used 3060 Ti was more appealing $200, which I consider reasonable for used 3060 Ti;):D

AleXXX666for me $50 is also decent amount of money. But, I have considered buying used 3070 Ti for $550 rather than getting 3060 Ti for $350. Because, "starting price point" for used 3060 Ti was more appealing $200, which I consider reasonable for used 3060 Ti;):D

I get your point, the performance difference between those is worth the 200USD difference.

Tek-CheckNonsense! And wrong scale with car example. Dude, mind the scale...
Also, everything was explained in previous posts. Read it before you post another nonsense.
Saving €50 on €500 entry PC is substantial for millions of people, epsecially younger PC builders in not so rich countries who are more financially dependant and constrained. If you do not value alleged €100 on €10,000 car, you will never value €50 either.

Then those people should buy B550/AM4 at great prices (even cheaper when used) not crippled A620/AM5 with more expensive DDR5 and way more expensive CPU's for brand new.

It's hilarious the people defending A620 now. It might make some sense a few years from now but as it stands saving on motherboard on an otherwise expensive AM5 makes little sense. AM4 is still perfectly viable for those on a tight budget.

TomorrowThen those people should buy B550/AM4 at great prices (even cheaper when used) not crippled A620/AM5 with more expensive DDR5 and way more expensive CPU's for brand new.

It's hilarious the people defending A620 now. It might make some sense a few years from now but as it stands saving on motherboard on an otherwise expensive AM5 makes little sense. AM4 is still perfectly viable for those on a tight budget.

Both AM4 and AM5 options can appeal to different consumers. Allow them to decide what is better for them instead of making a negative judgement even before boards are released. A620 will be a bit better tha B550. DDR5 is getting into more acceptable territory and there are deal with retailers. CPUs on AM5 have also dropped in price, significantly.

There is nothing "hilarious" about defending A620. It's simply going to bring another option to consumers. That can never be a bad thing.

Tek-CheckBoth AM4 and AM5 options can appeal to different consumers.

And those consumers buying AM5 will care less about <11% price difference than AM4 buyers.

Tek-CheckAllow them to decide what is better for them instead

They are not choice-less now. There are already FOUR AM5 chipset versions to choose from plus several AM4 options.

Tek-Checkof making a negative judgement even before boards are released.

Im basing this on existing pricing of A series boards where these are only 15-25€ cheaper than their B series counterparts. I would be positively surprised if A620 ended up 50€ cheaper (or more).

Tek-CheckA620 will be a bit better than B550.

And that's useless if the CPU that is compatible with A620 costs between 110-190€ more than AM4 CPU (R3 1200 vs R7 7600 is 190 and R5 5600 vs R7 7600 is 110).

Tek-CheckDDR5 is getting into more acceptable territory and there are deal with retailers.

A person who cares about <50€ price difference in a motherboard will not buy DDR5 regardless.

Tek-CheckCPUs on AM5 have also dropped in price, significantly.

Not enough tho. 7600X started from 350 and is now 239. 7600 that came later started from 260 and is now also 239. And these are the cheapest AM5 CPU's until AMD launches Zen 4 based APU's in Q4.

A person buying 239€+ CPU and 140€+ DDR5 cares about if their AM5 board costs 125 or 150? Doubtful.

Tek-CheckThere is nothing "hilarious" about defending A620. It's simply going to bring another option to consumers. That can never be a bad thing.

5th option on AM5. And since it arrives late and not much cheaper it will suffer the same lackluster sales on DIY market as previous A series boards. My guess is that OEM's will love it tho. Saving 25€ on one PC is small. But saving 25€ when building thousands of them is massive.

Tomorroware already FOUR AM5 chipset versions

Really four? Which it's are?

TumbleGeorgeReally four? Which it's are?

B650, B650E, X670 and X670E

Looking at the available boards then B650 is the most popular with 31 boards. B650E and X670 are much less common with only 11 and 7 options respectively. X670E has 22 options.

TomorrowB650, B650E, X670 and X670E

Looking at the available boards then B650 is the most popular with 31 boards. B650E and X670 are much less common with only 11 and 7 options respectively. X670E has 22 options.

This isn't 4 different chipsets.

TumbleGeorgeThis isn't 4 different chipsets.

Two then with E versions using a slightly different configuration on terms of PCIe.
But still sold as four different.

Tomorrow5th option on AM5. And since it arrives late and not much cheaper it will suffer the same lackluster sales on DIY market as previous A series boards. My guess is that OEM's will love it tho. Saving 25€ on one PC is small. But saving 25€ when building thousands of them is massive.

What we don't know, we don't know. Once released, we will see how DIY market reacts. It's a tough market in recent year, for all tiers of products. OEMs will certainly be happy, and anyone else who wants to jump on a cheaper AM5 platform will get another option. That's all to it.

TomorrowAnd those consumers buying AM5 will care less about <11% price difference than AM4 buyers.

You don't know this. It is your assumption, a baseless assumption.

TomorrowThey are not choice-less now. There are already FOUR AM5 chipset versions to choose from plus several AM4 options.

I did not talk about lack of choices. Focus dude. I said: "Allow them to decide what is better for them instead". And please stop chopping my sentences and quoting me out of larger context of A620 board release. Silly.

TomorrowI would be positively surprised if A620 ended up 50€ cheaper (or more).

Nobody also predicted that Microcenter would be offering 16GB and 32GB of DDR5 RAM for free in a bundle, yet they did it. Allow yourself to be surprised.

TomorrowAnd that's useless if the CPU that is compatible with A620 costs between 110-190€ more than AM4 CPU (R3 1200 vs R7 7600 is 190 and R5 5600 vs R7 7600 is 110).

This was a response to my text about A620 being a bit beetr than B550. Again, you are not the one who is making choices for consumers. Some will want to save a bit on motherboard in order to buy AM5 CPU. I would do that, because in future I will also be able to make a simple drop-in upgrade. Leave those choices to consumers and stop making baseless judgements about what is "useless" and who for.

TomorrowA person who cares about <50€ price difference in a motherboard will not buy DDR5 regardless.

Again, you don't know this. Any saving on any cheaper AM5 component makes this platform closer for some buyers. Your comments sound progressively arrongant. You sound as if you are Saruman who looks into a crystall ball and sees future choices of buyers.

Tomorrow7600X started from 350 and is now 239. 7600 that came later started from 260 and is now also 239. And these are the cheapest AM5 CPU's until AMD launches Zen 4 based APU's in Q4.

This is good. All components are slowly going down, as they should, which makes it more likely that more people will move onto the platform. A620 board will make this a tad easier too. $50 here, $30 there, and suddently the entry platforms becomes more approachable for those who do not want to buy AM4 or Intel.
Whether reductions are "not enough", well, again, allow consumers to decide this for themselves once they see what would be a total cost of A620 system for them. A620 boards will simply bring more choices to consider.