AnotherReaderWe will see this pattern until the stacked cache is below the CPU chiplet. AMD will do this with MI300, but we'll see what tradeoffs come with that approach.

A Computer GuyIt would be neat if they could stack DRAM. Imagine 128GB ram staked on the CPU.

mb194dcLet's see the 4k results with RT or higher.

AnotherReaderWhile the tests should be done with higher speed RAM for Intel, I don't think the price differences are correct. These are the lowest prices for a 32 GB kit of DDR5 on PcPartPicker in the USA:

1. DDR5 6000 CL30: $ 146
2. DDR5 6600 CL34: $ 188
3. DDR5 7200 CL34: $ 247

I see. You mean memory latency; in that case, I expect Intel to have lower latency.

Space Lynx$247 ain't shit these days. hell costs $25 for a bowl of chicken wings, I still say 720-0 cl 34 should be Intel's norm

Space Lynx$247 ain't shit these days. hell costs $25 for a bowl of chicken wings, I still say 720-0 cl 34 should be Intel's norm

Space Lynx$247 ain't shit these days. hell costs $25 for a bowl of chicken wings, I still say 720-0 cl 34 should be Intel's norm

trsttteCPU tests are always done at lower resolutions, it's a matter of choosing your bottleneck. It's easy for a modern high end GPU to push countless frames at 1080p, so the limit is the CPU capacity to push stuff to be rendered.

The opposite happens with GPU tests, the GPU will take longer and only be able to render a lower number of frames at higher resolutions while the CPU has enough time to keep the pipeline fed.

DenverI buy 80-90 kg of chicken for U$ 250, the problem is that something is not worth the price charged and you still pay. :p

Space Lynxwell honestly I just can't get my mind off chicken wings and wish they were cheaper. I have no idea what else is going on atm...

:roll: :roll: :roll:

TheLostSwede

AnotherReaderCome on man. You're making me hungry.

phanbueyIf you're doing workstation tasks then 7900 non x with a cheap gigabyte board tons of ram, and a boatload of fast SSDs , if you're doing gaming then 7800X3D (which is still a good ws chip btw) -- these 7950x3d chips kind of make no sense pricing wise.

HarthadI'd love to see some World of Warcraft benchmarks with this CPU.
I know it depends a lot on the location, server, time of day, etc but still

Space Lynx$25 for a bowl of chicken wings

Space Lynxyou gotta shake the sauce all over baby

AnotherReaderThere will be cases other than gaming where a 7950 X3D will be be faster than its regular counterpart. Any application that has a working set larger than 32 MB will benefit from that large cache. Even in W1zzard's review of the 5800X3D, you can see that there are tasks where it is faster than the 5800X despite the clock speed gap.

phanbueyYeah but with asymmetric cores? half of which are 15% slower?... idk.

Yeah it will help in some WS tasks coded to take advantage of it, but in that setup those are mostly outliers.

THU31Seems like the 3D cache was much more beneficial with DDR4. DDR5 almost doubles the bandwidth with similar latency, so the gains are much smaller.

ZunexxxMore interesting comparison would be faster ram on the Intel side and what it is on the AMD side. Intel can support faster ram while AMD can't. Tbh, it seems to be quite lackluster performance gain.

AnotherReaderTop end hardware isn't struggling with 1080p; with the exception of Ashes of the Singularity, the lowest fps in the guide are just below 200 for the 13900k.

Space Lynx$247 ain't shit these days. hell costs $25 for a bowl of chicken wings, I still say 720-0 cl 34 should be Intel's norm