Friday, February 24th 2023
AMD's Reviewers Guide for the Ryzen 9 7950X3D Leaks
AMD's Ryzen 7000-series CPUs with 3D V-Cache are set to launch next week and alongside the launch, there will obviously be reviews of the upcoming CPUs. As with many other companies, AMD prepared a reviewers guide for the media, to give them some guidance, as well as expected benchmark numbers based on the test hardware AMD used in-house. Parts of that reviewers guide has now appeared online, courtesy of a site called HD Tecnologia. For those that can't wait until next week's reviews, this gives a glimpse of what to expect, at least based on the games tested by AMD.
AMD put the Ryzen 9 7950X3D up against Intel's Core i9 13900K, both systems were equipped with 32 GB of DDR5-6000 memory and liquid cooling. Tests were done with both AMD's own Radeon RX 7900 XTX and an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 graphics card. We won't go into details of the various benchmarks here, as you can find those below, but according to AMD's figures, AMD came out on top with a 5.6 percent win over the Intel CPU, at 1080p using the Radeon RX 7900 XTX and by 6 percent using the GeForce RTX 4090. This was across 22 different games, with Horizon Zero Dawn and F1 2021 being the games favouring the AMD CPU the most and Far Cry 6 and the CPU test in Ashes of the Singularity being the games favouring the AMD CPU the least. TechPowerUp will of course have a review ready for your perusing by the time the new CPUs launches next week, so you'll have to wait until then to see if AMD's own figures hold true or not.
Sources:
HD Tecnologia, via VideoCardz
AMD put the Ryzen 9 7950X3D up against Intel's Core i9 13900K, both systems were equipped with 32 GB of DDR5-6000 memory and liquid cooling. Tests were done with both AMD's own Radeon RX 7900 XTX and an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 graphics card. We won't go into details of the various benchmarks here, as you can find those below, but according to AMD's figures, AMD came out on top with a 5.6 percent win over the Intel CPU, at 1080p using the Radeon RX 7900 XTX and by 6 percent using the GeForce RTX 4090. This was across 22 different games, with Horizon Zero Dawn and F1 2021 being the games favouring the AMD CPU the most and Far Cry 6 and the CPU test in Ashes of the Singularity being the games favouring the AMD CPU the least. TechPowerUp will of course have a review ready for your perusing by the time the new CPUs launches next week, so you'll have to wait until then to see if AMD's own figures hold true or not.
133 Comments on AMD's Reviewers Guide for the Ryzen 9 7950X3D Leaks
The more important numbers are the lows
Games like Star Citizen, Digital Combat Simulator, Escape from Tarkov, Stellaris, Rimworld, Factorio, Satisfactory, Anno 1800 etc, those listed title benefit greatly from the larger L3 cache size, just from the older 5800X vs 5800X3D, the X3D model is like 40%-50+% higher FPS, or Ticks Per Seconds. It's probably these titles don't have a built in benchmarking utility that would allow reviewers to streamline benchmarking them. There are still so many others games that benefits from it.
I would expect the same from the 7950X -> 7950X3D on those titles as well.
No point in this cpu as far as I can see.
Linus actually did a good video on this topic recently.
5600 CL28, 6000 CL30 and 6400 CL32 basically offer the same latency, but the extra bandwidth can be beneficial in certain situations. It was similar with DDR4 (3000 CL15, 3200 CL16, 3600 CL18).
Marketing machine is beyond ridiculous. AMD is advertising a 16C/32T CPU as a GAMING SOLUTION, when more than half of its resources will be totally wasted, and for professional applications a cheaper 7950X would be better.
I doubt anyone spending that amount of money, 7950x3d with 4090, will be using 1080p.
These tests are downright useless and have 0 REAL value. But then again, if you were shown real case tests, the 99% of people tests and not the 0.0001% weirdo that will run this setup, you wouldn't even care to upgrade because in reality the difference is minimal, that's also true for new generation CPUs vs previous ones.
Many people have worked on the best way to test a CPU, they ran all the tests many suggested and still ended up here.
It's called the scientific method and means they're testing right and everyone doubting them is wrong.
And 1080P will maybe take a decade to die , it's not anywhere near dead yet.
It doesn't matter what people will buy or use, typically at all.
It matters that the difference between cards or CPU is shown clearly, fair, and effective, hence the testing you see.
First of all, when testing CPU performance, you want to remove all other bottlenecks if possible. You want to see the maximum framerate a CPU can produce.
Second of all, there are no 720p or 480p monitors out there. But there are plenty of 1080p displays, with refresh rates including 480 Hz and higher.
You should watch the Hardware Unboxed video on this topic. Most people can't comprehend why CPUs are tested this way.
If you test a CPU with a GPU bottleneck, you have no idea what will happen when you upgrade your GPU. You framerate might stay exactly the same, because your CPU is maxed out.
But when you test it at 1080p, you will know exactly how much headroom you have.
This is exactly why low-end GPUs like 3050 and 3060, or even RX 6400, are tested with the fastest CPU on the market. You don't want a CPU bottleneck to affect your results.
When is the embargo on this over?
> goes on to suggest running memory at different speeds because MUH IMC
People like you are why the human race is doomed.
Hopefully removing differences not adding some obviously.
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