wheresmycarIn the UK, the 7900XT at launch was going for around £900-£1050 (depending on the models). Currently we're seeing units for £770-£950. Still not appealing for me but its nice to know the price may drop further.

Same here in The Netherlands. It launched at €1.2k and some models are now around €900. Waiting a bit as well to see if prices will drop in the next couple of months

kapone32That price sounds nice but like slowEnd said in Canada there has been no movement on pricing for any high end card. It actually makes the 7900XT more appealing as it can be had for a few dollars more than a 6800XT in Canada.

www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6800-xt-gv-r68xtgaming-oc-16gd/p/N82E16814932381?Description=6800XT&cm_re=6800XT-_-14-932-381-_-Product

www.newegg.ca/asrock-radeon-rx-7900-xt-rx7900xt-pg-20go/p/N82E16814930083?Description=7900XT&cm_re=7900XT-_-14-930-083-_-Product



There is 1 As Rock. 1 MSI and 1 Sapphire at that price on Newegg. The Powercolor card is about $40 cheaper but that card has been maligned for fan noise on consumer cards (based on user reviews). I have said this before but because we have a distributor network for PC parts in Canada both the retailer and customer pay the price. The best priced GPU I have seen in the last 6 months in Canada was an Asus Dual (Budget brand) 6600 for $269.99 on Canada Computers. But now that card has sold so well that on clearance it is $479.

www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_558&item_id=206490

But I did find a 7900XT for less than I paid as Canada Computers has my card for $1249.

www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_558&item_id=235518

On a completely different tangent AMD CPUs are currently Priced to sell. I am looking at a 7600X for $319.99

www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_64_5443&item_id=227006

With this board it could be sweet.

www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1832_5654&item_id=229346

with everything AM5 or 7000-series GPUs.... its a waiting game. Eventually the prices drop...in some cases quite significantly although it is a bit odd the 7000 series cards haven't already seen some reductions in Canada. But then again you guys are 4 hours behind us - always slow in catching up :laugh:

Provin915Same here in The Netherlands. It launched at €1.2k and some models are now around €900. Waiting a bit as well to see if prices will drop in the next couple of months

good luck with that. Unfortunately i'm locked on a GSYNC display and skipping 40-series all-together. Nvidia decided to be an A-S-S

WastelandEveryone acknowledges (or should acknowledge) that the 6900xt can't play absolutely every game in existence, at 1440p native, with full Ultra settings, and at a locked 120 fps. It's self-evident. But that doesn't mean @kapone32 was wrong to argue that the 6900xt is an excellent 1440p card. That was the original point of contention.

In fact, nothing will play every single game at 120+ FPS under the listed conditions. Let's take Cyberpunk as an example. TPU's test results at 1440p native and ultra quality settings, without ray tracing enabled, follow:



And if you want 120 FPS with max RT, well then, lol:



These results paint a pretty bleak picture for your use case, until we remember that stock Ultra settings are almost always a bum deal. Not every game has ludicrous performance sinks like AC Odyssey's infamous volumetric clouds, but there are usually at least a couple of settings that you'd have to be mildly insane to max out. A number of outlets, notably Digital Foundry,offer visual bang-for-buck analyses of demanding titles. In the case of CP2077, we have a few options to improve performance while maintaining effectively ultra-quality visuals.

Personally, I played through CP2077 at these "tweaked Ultra" settings (without RT), at 1440p native, with my frame rate locked at 80, on a 6800 non-XT. And I do mean locked at 80: my 0.1% lows were at like 77 FPS. For me, this was a fantastic experience. I understand that you want higher than 80 FPS, but your 6900XT should be at least 20% faster than my card. FSR at its highest Quality setting should take you the rest of the way to >120. Sure, this set up won't give you the premier 2023 gaming experience, but you also can't do much better without spending wildly disproportionate amounts of money. "Diminished returns" is an understatement.

So the question here isn't whether you're lying or mistaken about having to dial down settings to maintain 120 FPS. The question is, 'what's your point?' It certainly doesn't make sense to criticize the 6900xt on the basis that it can't achieve an unreasonable performance standard. You characterized this unreasonable standard as "not asking for much, bro," which leads me to wonder whether you're letting frivolous complaints ruin your experience. I'm guilty of doing this on occasion, too. As someone on this forum recently said, "Games are meant to be played, not watched."

I don't know whats wrong with you and everyone who clicked like to your post. You did not read all of my posts leading up to what I stated. CP w/o RT sits at 83.1 FPS. I said I like my 1% lows above 90FPS because of smoothness. Yet again, someone else on here stating that stuff I didn't even say. Did I stay the 6900XT wasn't a 1440p card? Not once did I say that. I started off by saying that at 1440p I have to turn down settings in some games. Some folks man... I have an entire AMD system, but I'm not blind to the facts. And thank you for proving my point 100%.

Guwapo77I don't know whats wrong with you and everyone who clicked like to your post. You did not read all of my posts leading up to what I stated. CP w/o RT sits at 83.1 FPS. I said I like my 1% lows above 90FPS because of smoothness. Yet again, someone else on here stating that stuff I didn't even say. Did I stay the 6900XT wasn't a 1440p card? Not once did I say that. I started off by saying that at 1440p I have to turn down settings in some games. Some folks man... I have an entire AMD system, but I'm not blind to the facts. And thank you for proving my point 100%.

Turning down settings to achieve 120 FPS @ 1440p is the norm in demanding games, in part because Ultra settings generally suck from a cost/benefit perspective. To illustrate that point, I gave you an example of a heavily demanding game whose performance can be increased by 30+% without a noticeable drop in image quality. If you think that's an attack, or a non-sequitur, then I'm not the one who's having trouble following the conversation:

commenter (to someone else): "Your 6900 xt is just fine for every game right now."

you (unsolicited): "Already having to turn down crap in 1440p tho..."

commenter: "You must have really high standards then."

you: "Just 120 FPS @ 1440p in every game ever made, at full Ultra settings. I'm not asking for much, bro"

several commenters, including me: "That's a ridiculous standard for just about any GPU."

you, now: "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? ALL I SAID WAS I HAD TO TURN DOWN SETTINGS! OMG WHY ARE YOU DEBATING SOMETHING I NEVER SAID????"

wheresmycargood luck with that. Unfortunately i'm locked on a GSYNC display and skipping 40-series all-together. Nvidia decided to be an A-S-S

What's your resolution on that monitor and what card are you currently using?

WastelandTurning down settings to achieve 120 FPS @ 1440p is the norm in demanding games, in part because Ultra settings generally suck from a cost/benefit perspective. To illustrate that point, I gave you an example of a heavily demanding game whose performance can be increased by 30+% without a noticeable drop in image quality. If you think that's an attack, or a non-sequitur, then I'm not the one who's having trouble following the conversation:

commenter (to someone else): "Your 6900 xt is just fine for every game right now."

you (unsolicited): "Already having to turn down crap in 1440p tho..."

commenter: "You must have really high standards then."

you: "Just 120 FPS @ 1440p in every game ever made, at full Ultra settings. I'm not asking for much, bro"

several commenters, including me: "That's a ridiculous standard for just about any GPU."

you, now: "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? ALL I SAID WAS I HAD TO TURN DOWN SETTINGS! OMG WHY ARE YOU DEBATING SOMETHING I NEVER SAID????"

You're only confirming what I said to begin with. I also stated that I like a minimum of 90FPS, something you conveniently left off. Lmao at the unsolicited...dafuq does has to do with the price in tea in China? As I stated, I have to turn down settings @ 1440p and its something that you are agreeing with. So why are you even trying to debate what I've already said?

You may have the last word here because this is completely pointless replying to someone who is regurgitating that same thing I said a few days ago.

Guwapo77You're only confirming what I said to begin with. I also stated that I like a minimum of 90FPS, something you conveniently left off. Lmao at the unsolicited...dafuq does has to do with the price in tea in China? As I stated, I have to turn down settings @ 1440p and its something that you are agreeing with. So why are you even trying to debate what I've already said?

You may have the last word here because this is completely pointless replying to someone who is regurgitating that same thing I said a few days ago.

I think it is time to stop here because you are kinda complaining about the grass is to green and I want it a bit less greener. We all got your points and we know what you are saying. If you dont like the card, sell it and buy a brand new one that will match your expectations since the current one you have doesn't. Next time when you purchase a card, make sure you know what you are buying and what you can expect from it.

Just for clarification, even 2x4090 in sli (assuming it worked) won't get you 120 fps in every game 1440p ultra. Lots of games not even a fully clocked to 6ghz 13900k can get you 120 at all times. In hogwarts my 12900k drops to below 60 at times, lol

ratirtI think it is time to stop here because you are kinda complaining about the grass is to green and I want it a bit less greener. We all got your points and we know what you are saying. If you dont like the card, sell it and buy a brand new one that will match your expectations since the current one you have doesn't. Next time when you purchase a card, make sure you know what you are buying and what you can expect from it.

I made a statement. You're coming here defending our current cards as if what I'm stating isn't true. When I bought the card, turning down settings at 1440p on a card marketed as a 2160p card wasn't an issue. What I stated was that settings need to be turned down...please don't be offended its not targeted at you. I do more than enough research in my purchasing decisions. The 6900XT was close and sometimes surpassed team green for a lot less money. When the next generation of cards comes out, this card will most certainly go into my son's 1080p rig (to replace his AMD Fury X). Which ever company gives me the best bang for the buck at high end gaming will go into my system.

If you feel its time to stop, please do.

fevgatosJust for clarification, even 2x4090 in sli (assuming it worked) won't get you 120 fps in every game 1440p ultra. Lots of games not even a fully clocked to 6ghz 13900k can get you 120 at all times. In hogwarts my 12900k drops to below 60 at times, lol

Pretty sure there is no talk of RT here and simple raster was the baseline. No problem though as I've noticed my words keep getting taken out of context to fit their own narrative. AMD defense force go!

Guwapo77I made a statement. You're coming here defending our current cards as if what I'm stating isn't true. When I bought the card, turning down settings at 1440p on a card marketed as a 2160p card wasn't an issue. What I stated was that settings need to be turned down...please don't be offended its not targeted at you. I do more than enough research in my purchasing decisions. The 6900XT was close and sometimes surpassed team green for a lot less money. When the next generation of cards comes out, this card will most certainly go into my son's 1080p rig (to replace his AMD Fury X). Which ever company gives me the best bang for the buck at high end gaming will go into my system.

If you feel its time to stop, please do.

Pretty sure there is no talk of RT here and simple raster was the baseline. No problem though as I've noticed my words keep getting taken out of context to fit their own narrative. AMD defense force go!

I'm the amd defense force? Thanks I guess.

Guwapo77I made a statement. You're coming here defending our current cards as if what I'm stating isn't true. When I bought the card, turning down settings at 1440p on a card marketed as a 2160p card wasn't an issue. What I stated was that settings need to be turned down...please don't be offended its not targeted at you. I do more than enough research in my purchasing decisions. The 6900XT was close and sometimes surpassed team green for a lot less money. When the next generation of cards comes out, this card will most certainly go into my son's 1080p rig (to replace his AMD Fury X). Which ever company gives me the best bang for the buck at high end gaming will go into my system.

If you feel its time to stop, please do.

Pretty sure there is no talk of RT here and simple raster was the baseline. No problem though as I've noticed my words keep getting taken out of context to fit their own narrative. AMD defense force go!

This isn't about defense of AMD. I and others merely think your expectations are a little unrealistic. To wit:

Guwapo77You think the 6900XT is more powerful than it is apparently. I'm simply looking for max settings at or above 120FPS. I'm not asking for much bro.

Since you capped it above, the sole card to get there in HW:L is the 4090. The 7900 XT under discussion here misses the mark in TPU testing in both CP77 and Callisto Protocol. But so does the 3090 ti. The point trying to be made is that yes, 120fps @ 1440p max is asking for a quite a bit.

80-watt HamsterThis isn't about defense of AMD. I and others merely think your expectations are a little unrealistic. To wit:



Since you capped it above, the sole card to get there in HW:L is the 4090. The 7900 XT under discussion here misses the mark in TPU testing in both CP77 and Callisto Protocol. But so does the 3090 ti. The point trying to be made is that yes, 120fps @ 1440p max is asking for a quite a bit.

I stated I like 90-120FPS @1440p with 60FPS lows. Not unrealistic. CP77 is a game I own but I haven't spent more than an hour on it because I don't want to play it at low framerates. I will crank it out in the next generation of cards. CProtocol isn't my type of game, so no love loss there. As I've said previously, the biggest mistake I made was buying a high refresh monitor. When I had my old school 1440p w/ 60hz max, life was good. Now...I am bothered by games I can't get do above 90 because it is VERY noticeable to ME. Other people 60FPS is just fine and I'm not crapping on those who are happy with it. For me, its a no go. The most demanding games that I can't push 90 in will just sit in my Steam library until I get hardware that can. I'm a patient man as WoW takes up most of my time anyways.

fevgatosI'm the amd defense force? Thanks I guess.

No comment on the non-RT game listed above?