Saturday, March 18th 2023

Crucial T700 PCIe 5.0 SSD Preview Unit Hits 12 GB/s Read and Write Speeds, May 2023 Release Hinted

Crucial is keen to drum up early interest for an upcoming SSD model, and the Linus Tech Tips team has received and tested a sample unit. The T700 is a PCIe Gen 5 NVMe M.2 SSD storage solution based around a Phison PS5026-E26 controller, which is a very common choice for the current generation of PCIe 5.0 SSDs available on the market. Micron 3D NAND chips look to be present on the T700's PCB, and a Crucial-branded heatsink is mounted to the provided sample unit. It is interesting to note that the uncovered T700 unit bears a striking resemblance to Phison's E26 Engineering Reference sample, although the latter appears to feature SK Hynix memory chips, instead of Micron.

The LTT team posted benchmark results from a Crystal Disk Mark test session, and the T700 achieved maximums of 12.4 GB/s sequential read and 11.9 GB/s write speeds. This represents an almost two fold jump over the performance of Crucial's PCIe 4.0 based P5 Plus SSD, which is a substantial improvement and also very impressive considering the T700's usage of a passive cooling solution.
The Crucial Memory Twitter account has stated in a reply to the LTT tweet that the T700 is "dropping in May."
There is no word on pricing for T700 at this stage, but anticipate it being expensive, since companies charge a premium for cutting edge SSD tech during launch windows.
Sources: Linus Tech Tips Twitter, TPU Database, TweakTown
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34 Comments on Crucial T700 PCIe 5.0 SSD Preview Unit Hits 12 GB/s Read and Write Speeds, May 2023 Release Hinted

#26
dgianstefani
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LiannaGuessing from the time to load scenes 2-4 from SATA SSD they don't read more than 3.5 GB; that should be about or under 1 second for PCIe 3.0+ SSD. Seems like 2 to 3 seconds needed to load from PCIe 3.0/4.0/5.0 SSD are mostly spent on overhead, with differences in read speed hidden by overlapped I/O.

If you think about it, when you need to completely reload, say, 8 GB of data in VRAM and a few GB in system RAM, you should be able to do that in 3-4 seconds from PCIe 3.0 SSD; and probably 2-3 with DirectStorage compression. Everything else is just lack of optimization or overhead, filesystem (lots of small accesses instead of a few big sequential reads), inefficient/slow decompression, not doing enough things in parallel, overhead (e.g. drivers), plus time of game state reset.

Setting aside other issues with Forspoken, it looks like DirectStorage fell victim to... optimization and great performance.
I don't play a lot of games, but from my PCIe 3.0 SSD, in a few other AAA releases loading a save takes 10-20x the time Forspoken needs for the same (even when changing environment).
So I guess what happened is MS wanted to show off with DirectStorage, made the developer optimize, optimize and optimize some more. They shaved time from, say, 20 seconds to 2, then applied DirectStorage compression to reduce it to 1 second, made it smaller than CPU/GPU loading overhead... and it turned out that, on fast disks, "DirectStorage shows zero benefits" :)
Directstorage is necessary for future game development advancement. It's not critical today.
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#27
ambrose
Selayais that the 118gb m.2 2280 (consumer-grade) ... uhh, 800p/805p?
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#28
Fierce Guppy
ambrose
What software did you use to create your ram-disk, ambrose?
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#29
ambrose
Fierce GuppyWhat software did you use to create your ram-disk, ambrose?
This is 4x 980 Pro on Highpoint SSD7505 in stripe.
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#30
Fierce Guppy
ambroseThis is 4x 980 Pro on Highpoint SSD7505 in stripe.
Very nice! I want one of those.
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#31
mama
dgianstefaniA basic OS is 8 GB or less bud.
Windows for me is upwards of 60GB.
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#32
Chrispy_
The takeaway I had from that particular LTT video was that faster NAND drives are pointless because the stats that matter for NVMe drives have remained stagnant despite sequential throughput and bandwidth increases.

...as I've been saying for years.
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#33
uftfa
zorbIs 3x faster not an improvement? I understand 2 seconds vs 6 is marginal but game loading speeds are quick already, where do you need more speed if not working with large files?
Original poster is comparing PCIe gen3 SSD to PCIe gen5.

6 second stat is for SATA SSD, which cost practically the same as entry-level PCIe gen3 SSDs. The conclusion being :

- If you already have a PCIe gen3 SSD, no point upgrading.
- If you're coming from a SATA SSD or worse, just buy a PCIe gen3 SSD on the cheap because gen5 brings no additional benefit (for gaming).
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#34
dimar11
If it heats too much, I don't want it.
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