Monday, April 10th 2023
Official NVIDIA RTX 4070 Performance Claims Leak Online
Just a few days before the official launch scheduled for April 13th, the first official performance figures for the RTX 4070 have found their way online. As expected, NVIDIA is showing the performance with DLSS 3 and Frame Generation, comparing it to three graphics cards in the RTX 30 series, the RTX 3080, the RTX 3070 Ti, and the RTX 3070.
According to NVIDIA, the GeForce RTX 4070 is targeting 1440p performance at above 100 FPS, with ray tracing and DLSS 3 enabled, of course. NVIDIA officially did not reveal any performance numbers without DLSS 3, but earlier rumors puts the RTX 4070 at around the same performance as the RTX 3080. With DLSS 3 and according to NVIDIA, the RTX 4070 is 1.4x, 1.7x, and 1.8x times faster, compared to the aforementioned RTX 30 series graphics cards.
NVIDIA has a pretty decent list of games, with and without Frame Generation, showing the RTX 4070 pulling way ahead of the RTX 3070 Ti and RTX 2070 Super, as expected. NVIDIA was keen to note that the RTX 3080 launched at $699, and the RTX 3070 Ti launched at $599, which should be the MSRP of the RTX 4070.
As detailed earlier, the GeForce RTX 4070 should be around 15 percent slower than the RTX 4070 Ti in gaming, with the gap closing on higher resolutions. Of course, these are all numbers with DLSS 2/DLSS 3, so you should wait for reviews to show up to get a better idea on the actual performance, performance per Watt, and performance per dollar. The first slide also confirms that the GeForce RTX 4070 will be available on April 13th at $599.
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According to NVIDIA, the GeForce RTX 4070 is targeting 1440p performance at above 100 FPS, with ray tracing and DLSS 3 enabled, of course. NVIDIA officially did not reveal any performance numbers without DLSS 3, but earlier rumors puts the RTX 4070 at around the same performance as the RTX 3080. With DLSS 3 and according to NVIDIA, the RTX 4070 is 1.4x, 1.7x, and 1.8x times faster, compared to the aforementioned RTX 30 series graphics cards.
As detailed earlier, the GeForce RTX 4070 should be around 15 percent slower than the RTX 4070 Ti in gaming, with the gap closing on higher resolutions. Of course, these are all numbers with DLSS 2/DLSS 3, so you should wait for reviews to show up to get a better idea on the actual performance, performance per Watt, and performance per dollar. The first slide also confirms that the GeForce RTX 4070 will be available on April 13th at $599.
113 Comments on Official NVIDIA RTX 4070 Performance Claims Leak Online
I’m speaking about launch price…
Yes, today 6800XT price is very nice, but that’s for a reason, and for that specific reason I wouldn’t buy one even at that good price. If you are happy with the card, good for you. I’m not going to try to convince you of anything different. I just don’t put it in any of my customer’s PC.
Not speaking about hardware problems, to be clear (that was just on one of them, but I suspect the PSU was the culprit).
Just the usual AMD mess with software…
Considering that my own 5700XT was a 2 years disaster, I just don’t trust AMD anymore on graphic cards. At least until next generation…
And it’s a pity because was quite easy to me to suggest 6600XT and 6700XT on cheap gaming system, so popular here.
I've had:
geforce 2 mx400
geforce 4 mx4000
geforce fx 5700 ultra
geforce 6800 gs
radeon hd 4870
radeon hd 7870
radeon hd 7970 ghz ed
radeon rx 580 8gb
radeon rx 6800 xt / geforce rtx 3060 ti.
I’m speaking about RDNA and RDNA 2 cards… And by the way this thread is about RTX 4070.
But I said it on my first post: every time somebody speaks about AMD issues on a forum, AMD supporters appears to say “never had any”.
Happy for you.
Still, no one wants a Radeon in his computer.
A global hallucination ? Maybe, but considering that it costs me 3 working hours in the last 10 days (one 6700XT and one 6650XT), I will stand my position.
By now i should have had a lot of problems right!?
As I said, I didn’t make a specific statistic out of it, but I would say on 40% of the installed. Some issues are quite easy to be fixed (like a clean driver install), some others quite annoying (on the 6700XT last week I had to clean install Windows again :shadedshu:, even DDU wasn’t enough).
On Nvidia products situation is not perfect for sure, but I would say I had similar issue in not more than 10% of the installed cards. That makes an huge difference for me.
Maybe being an experienced user you are less prone to create problems than some of my “customers”, but nevertheless, problems are easier to appear on Radeon than on GeForce. And in most of the issues I had, I didn’t identified a specific misbehavior on the user’s side.
But I would return to speak about the RTX 4070 on the topic…
Stop the bickering/arguing.
Stop the insults.
Discuss the topic and be civil.
I've seen both in action and I'm not impressed. With upscaling (DLSS, FSR, etc) enabled, everything is noticeably more blurry and the FPS gain is not impressive unless you really turn that minimum resolution slider down to like 30-50% - certainly doesn't warrant the drop in image quality. And if the game doesn't look very nice, I can just wait and play it in a few years on newer faster hardware, rather then compromise on image quality or performance... or my wallet.
I've had all these cards in my hands and played with most of them. I collect PC hardware and sometimes I get PCs in for repairs and/or maintenance, despite the fact that this is no longer my main source of revenue - I also sometimes get review samples sent if from friends who work in the tech press - who also happen to collect retro computer hardware, or friends who work for a big hardware importer/reseller and have access to all sorts of hardware, some sent in for demo stations or showcases... So I loan them something rare(ish) like say a voodoo 5 5500, or a Volari V8 duo, and they loan me a 4090 for a few days. And I have to say, that thing is bloody fast, but not 2100-2200 euro (tax included) fast. Unless I had an income of 6000-7000 euro / month (after tax) I wouldn't be considering such a product, and even then I'd still ponder if that money might be better spent somewhere else, since in a few years time that video card will be obsolete and worth a mere fraction of what I would pay for it new.
Maybe you guys are right, and I'm too old for this $h|t, but just remember, just 10 years ago 600$ would buy you a top of the line model that would just perform - no bull$h|t DLSS, FSR or gimmicks like RT that tank performance for a little bit of extra shiny. Now you need to pay 2000$ for the same privilege - and that's without TAX.Yeah I'll take the 550$ 6800XT over the 750$ 3080 any day - that's just a no brainer. Nothing other then pure performance is worth the extra 200$, and it's just not there. Only bullshit marketing and some people are falling for it in droves. I'm sorry, but unless the 6800XT was completely broken or it performed 25% slower then the 3080 the price gap is unjustified. The only reasons I see to get a card that is ~27% more expensive but performs largely the same are fanboyism, more money then sense or down-right lack of interest in hardware.
Fanboyism is a unfortunately part of us as a species and is costing all consumers dearly, since corpos have learned how to exploit and weaponize it.
And where is that "low demand" seen? Not in my neck of the woods. The 6800, RTX 4090, 6800XT and sometimes the 6700xt are out of stock 1-2 weeks after e-tailers get a new shipment. RX6600XT and RTX 3060 stock vary wildly from week to week - sometimes MSI and Powercolor products are in stock, next week it's Palit and Sapphire.... The 7900XT, 3070, 3080 and 4080 are in stock all the time. What does that say about demand? Of course, a 3080 here costs as much as 6900XT so nobody will touch them, and the 4090 is so expensive, e-tailers probably stocked very very few of them knowing the average wage here and the willingness of the average Ion to spend car-money on a video card - but maybe it's different where you live.
Oh well, to each his own. The only reason I'm being so vocal is to try (most likely a pointless effort) to get manufacturers to understand that these price hikes are unacceptable, and that they will lose customers - and sometimes to try and nudge people so that they will look into performance / dollar and not red vs green.
Edit. 8% is nothing. Like a scam. And as I see Linus also had a reasonable part of the new 4070 video about this topic.
//A little subjetive side note: It is free of choice, but I will not support of this policy with buying a new card.
Just do not forget it. Whatever how much is the MSRP, the retail prices doubled during the mining boom period few years before, and do not moderated much. After than during COVID also doubled again, but not price is not lowered as much it should, because of infaltion. All these shit are called market manipulation, started with mining, that nobody nows who started, because of uknown creater of bitcoin. Now anybody make a new one and use it for speculating investment as play with money and scam others.
Today in EU like 3-4x more expensive a mid-range card like 4-6 yeras before. This inflation is insane and unreasonable.//