Tuesday, April 25th 2023
ASUS Releases Official Statement Regarding Ryzen 7000 Issues
ASUS has released an official statement regarding the recently discovered issues with AMD Ryzen 7000 series CPUs, especially the Ryzen 7000X3D series. ASUS has also released EFI updates on Friday, that include thermal monitoring mechanism to protect motherboards and CPUs and is working on new updates that should be available soon and define new rules for AMD Expo and SoC voltage, which appear to be the main issue related to the CPU VDDIO/MC voltages.
We have already covered the first reports of damaged Ryzen 7000X3D series CPUs that suffered physical damage, and some motherboard manufacturers have already released new BIOS updates, including MSI. In the meantime, Roman "Der8auer" Hartung has also discovered that the issue might not be just limited to the Ryzen 7000X3D series, but could also impact the Ryzen 7000 X-series CPUs. Although there were no earlier reports on such issues, AMD Expo appears to be the main source of the problem and users can either disable it or manually set the SoC voltage, at least until motherboard makers come up with new BIOS updates or we hear an official statement from AMD.
Sources:
Roman Hartung (Youtube), via Videocardz
We have already covered the first reports of damaged Ryzen 7000X3D series CPUs that suffered physical damage, and some motherboard manufacturers have already released new BIOS updates, including MSI. In the meantime, Roman "Der8auer" Hartung has also discovered that the issue might not be just limited to the Ryzen 7000X3D series, but could also impact the Ryzen 7000 X-series CPUs. Although there were no earlier reports on such issues, AMD Expo appears to be the main source of the problem and users can either disable it or manually set the SoC voltage, at least until motherboard makers come up with new BIOS updates or we hear an official statement from AMD.
37 Comments on ASUS Releases Official Statement Regarding Ryzen 7000 Issues
There is quite a range of max voltage different brands apply, although anecdotally Asus tends to be more agressive with auto voltages.
now you are telling me that is not the case... and my brain finds it very confusing. lol
Of course neither of them actually tries to enforce those terms because it will be a PR disaster.
Most of the time the CS won't even ask, and if they do just play dumb and you be fine.
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To me it clearly looks like a problem with the LGA socket and poor engineering on AMD side with limited testing. These sockets starting to fail after some time has passed since shipping.
So AMD all of a sudden forgot how to desgin an LGA socket is unlikely.
I guess I was just lucky until now, strange lol
This is why I am pointing fingers at the board vendor this whole time, they seems to be the most likely curpits.
You even find some boards claiming "up to 6600+ support" while not having a single kit that is validate at that speed in the QVL.
The bigger point is why you'd bother overclocking 7800x3D anyway. Not much fun to be had with most of the latest higher end chips, they're pre overclocked pretty much.
IT was mentioned ASUS at first because first post of those 'Burned down" CPUs were on ASUS motherboards
but it also got confirmed on Gigabyte
While it was not confirmed on MSI - they did release a very "important" BIOS that... limits OC capabilities and limits voltage...
It feels more like board partners followed strictly steps from AMD - and those steps were hell wrong
I don't think it's EXPO guys, the amount of heat/volts that needs to happen to bubble a chip like that is nuts, and should have kicked OCP/OTP on well before the chip had time to melt down like that. There's definitely more going on than just a buggy bios with expo.